Replies to post #40960 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[The Duke of URL]

I do not wish to seem indelicate here, but I really don't know. Doesn't linux run on amd64 and aren't there a stack of apps that will run on top of linux?

[upc]

Can't Nocona run Linux or the Win64 beta yet? Why not?

[pgerassi]

Morrowinder:

Ever hear of Oracle? Runs in AMD64 on Linux. How about DB2? Do you have any idea of how may VARs run their custom vertical solutions on Unix/Oracle? On Unix/DB2? And they run those on Linux/Oracle and Linux/DB2.

Answer more than 10 thousand. Microsoft hates to see all those Server 2003 customers switch to Linux and is hurrying to deliver 64 bit Server 2003 ASAP. Their problem is that Server 2003 is very buggy and full of security holes. They are having a devil of the time patching and papering it up to anything resembling releasable status. But, that's Microsoft for you, very late and still full of bugs. Of course they could fix that, if they were willing to fix their Office apps to a better grade instead of patching their OSes to work around assumptions made in Office development.

Intel can't even run Linux in 64 bit mode on iEMT64 with any reliability much less the 64 bit Server 2003 betas. I guess it is another of the "wait for ..." statements from Intel and its supporters that is losing credability very fast and the investors are wiseing up fast.

I'll name a few more comnmercial apps that run just fine in 64 bit mode, SAS, RSA and "gpg". You should know of them. Intel even mentions the last one.

Pete