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Buddhasib

08/14/08 1:20 AM

#692 RE: Calibob #688

In regard to questions for Bruce and so on, I want to reiterate Calibob's question...because it is very odd to me that COIN and ANVH would have virtually identical press releases, and I realize there was an explanation given before -- something to do with the same PR firm promoting both companies and being sloppy? ... but it is really unbelievable that the CEO or top Admin's would be saying the exact same thing and so on identicals, and I just don't like the dual identical PR's at all. They have similar products, but my understanding is that COIN uses a process to make their products that involves 'contaminated product' whereas ANVH's product is 100% 'pure', not involving garbage/waste sites like COIN does or something to that effect which has accumulated impurities. I think the bottom line is that ANVH's products are bio/Earth friendly, have market demand, they are expanding, the management is doing all the right things (except possibly the PR efforts, other than the stellar news releases -- and it is unbelievable how cheap the pps is given them, other than they are either just undiscovered, people think it's too good to be true or it is...but I am holding on to 152,000 shares on a limited budget...so I do believe in them)...

...but I am not pleased with the lousy PR work so far for hire (effects to pps, other than it allowed lower cost entry into the stock), and I can only hope that the new PR folks are really in it long term and will do their job well.

All that said, I am LONG ANVH and I really do believe in the company, and I am very impressed by Bruce Fischer in particular since I've heard his interviews, and he is responsive and helpful in commenting back to my emails, but I haven't pressed as much about this issue, although I'm really curious about it (the dual/identical PR's).

So please address Calibob's question about the identical PR's (again). How can that happen? I've never seen that before.

My friend thinks ANVH is a scam, and I disagree, am seeing predominantly positive sentiment here, and I just want to see the positives reflected in the pps at some point. Honestly though, I wish I had more money to invest in ANVH now.

Also, Tom Nelson is playing some significant kind of PR role, and he is responsive to phone calls, and it seems that he will be part of efforts to go on some kind of road trip or something to the effect that he has contacts with various brokers and will be doing some serious promoting for ANVH also...(he is listed in the press releases)


Basically, the fundamentals of ANVH look great, assuming the transparency and accuracy which I believe is there...but the PR has not been effective yet (my impression of the cause of the unbelievably low pps for this company with SO MUCH VERY POSITIVE NEWS -- it just doesn't make any sense to me that the stock price can drop in price AT ALL anywhere in this price zone...what idiot would sell now unless the company was a total scam and the news fabricated? I can see that, but at the same time, my hunch, for better or worse is that ANVH is legit, and I am sticking by it (not selling).

I do hope they do a better job with PR, moving to higher forms of exchange and so on, am hoping they will avoid shoddy PR folks in the future, but otherwise really believe in this company long term.

sorry for long post...my first one here. I like that Moshe seems like an insider of sorts and has a lot of positive comments as well. I've read the entire series of postings here. Overall I think the prospects for ANVH are bright, but it is volatile and I'm waiting...

Once again, though, I reiterate Calibob's question and similar sentiments and don't want it to be lost in the noise...and want a serious response for how that exactly happened.
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greedy__malone

08/15/08 12:53 AM

#837 RE: Calibob #688

Calibob that is quite interesting to say the least.

Converted Organics Amino Acid-Based Organic Liquid Fertilizer to Be Used as Primary Nitrogen Source in Professional Turfgrass Management

BOSTON, Jul 30, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Converted Organics Inc. (NASDAQ:COIN) announced today that the company has begun taking orders for its Turf Blend(TM) 64 organic liquid fertilizer, the first completely soluble, high-nitrogen, organic liquid fertilizer that can be used as the sole source of nitrogen in any turfgrass management plan. Converted Organics developed Turf Blend(TM) 64 by using the Company's proprietary High Temperature Liquid Composting (HTLC) process to combine the nitrogen-rich amino acid lysine with the Company's primary Liquid Concentrate(TM) (LC) 1-1-1 organic fertilizer product.

"Turf Blend(TM) 64 provides turfgrass professionals with a caliber of nitrogen-rich, liquid organic fertilizer that has been previously unavailable to the market, making professional turfgrass maintenance more effective, cost-efficient, and environmentally-friendly," said Ed Gildea, President of Converted Organics. "The product also provides rapid nutrition response and a very high degree of disease and environmental stress resistance for golf, professional lawncare and turf maintenance programs."

Converted Organics uses a patent-pending lysine-based technology from Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM) marketed under the brand name NaturStim(TM). Converted Organics is also currently developing a soluble, high-nitrogen, slow-release organic granular fertilizer that incorporates ADM's NaturStim(TM). Converted Organics will submit Turf Blend 64, as well as the new granular product, to the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) and the United States Department of Agriculture's National Organic Program (NOP) for official organic certification.

Anviron Enters $3.45 Billion Golf Course Maintenance Industry With New "TurfSolv" Organic Lawn Fertilizer

IRVING, Texas --(www.USEquityNews.com)-- 08/01/2008 - The Anviron Holding Company (OTC: ANVH) (“Anviron”), a manufacturer and marketer of "Clean & Green" products and technology, announced today that the company has begun taking orders for its new product “TurfSolv” organic liquid fertilizer, the first completely soluble, high-nitrogen, organic liquid fertilizer that can be used as the sole source of nitrogen in any turf management plan.

TurfSolv is a non-polluting organic lawn fertilizer that is having an extraordinary effect on the greens and helping to control rising golf course maintenance costs at the same time. "TurfSolv provides turf professionals with a caliber of nitrogen-rich, liquid organic fertilizer that has been previously unavailable to the market, making professional turf maintenance more effective, cost-efficient, and environmentally-friendly," said Steve Young, COO of Anviron.


All I can say is HUH? Copycat say what? Definitely something to look into. I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it because what promoters do is call the company and if they say we'll talk about it later they say okay and tell you to wait for the company to respond. I can get to the bottom of this.


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moshe Goldberg

08/15/08 10:56 PM

#956 RE: Calibob #688

My understanding is that their is no relationship between these companies. The ANVH turfsolv is a relabeled NuSoil product line. Made by and exclusively distributed by ANVH.

The PR is the product of a very lazy PR writer who has been fired by the company since the release.

The only link between the two companies is they use a similar technology to produce their products. ANVH as well as COIN us a technology that is 30 years old European tech. That is the limit of the similarity of the companies.

The technology is called "Autogenous Thermophilic Aerobic Digestion" and in short is a very fast method of composting organic material.

based on my conversation with the company, COIN is first in business to market the tech as a fix to American landfill waste and as a side business has an organic fertilizer from this waste collected from city trash.

As I understand it, the waste having been through the agriculture process has pesticides, herbicides and non-organic compounds associated with these waste streams. The process COIN uses does not eliminate these compounds but concentrates them in the end product the liquid fertilizer. My additional understanding is this is why the technology has not been used in the US over the last 30 years. The end products are toxic. Germany, France and Italy have safety controls of the use of the end products from these facilities.

Anviron does not market the technology, they simply use the tech to speed up their process. Anviron use an extremely pure form of 100% organic material with no pesticides, herbicides or non-organic compounds . As they said, "We start pure and end pure. We developed the product first, then perfected the manufacturing technology simply to allow us to speed the conversion into a usable form".