moores2009, You are right on. I worked with a bunch of guys like that. They also will do anything to derail the direction of the group, or any individual that gives them the attention, by throwing out anything, & make you do DD to disprove it. Its a game with them. If you let them consume your time & efforts, they win. You can't win , because there isn't anything that they seriously care about except spreading confussion, stealing time, or making you mad. Iggeysize EM. May we be basher free.. GLTA LC