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sailfreeee

02/19/08 1:20 PM

#206776 RE: The Count #206774

Amen!!!

"Your position is EXACTLY what MENS wants – settle for peanuts to get it done. Well F that. I believe IDCC has the goods. If they do, they should get fair compensation. If not, then they shouldn’t. But I will be pissed off if management settles like they did with ERICY for pennies on the dollar for 2G just as a decision was due."

paheka

02/19/08 1:21 PM

#206777 RE: The Count #206774

count...my sentiment as well.Ever since Nokia and their alliance decided to try and cap ALL rates below 5% this has been a battleground.WHY??Simply because those fees add up to an extraordinary amount of $$.Simple as that.NOW...its coming to a decisive head and with our continuing sweep of the latest court contests i'd feel abused IF IDCC didn't get their FRAND rate.No more "giveaway" settlements!

jeffree

02/19/08 1:30 PM

#206778 RE: The Count #206774

"I'm Mad as Hell...and I'm Not gonna take it anymore...!!!"


I'm with ya, Count...



(from the movie "Network"...remember...???)


lol


...jk...

olddog967

02/19/08 2:21 PM

#206780 RE: The Count #206774

Count: If this is the FTC case that is referred to, it is about a very specific pricing promise given by a company when they had their technology incorporated into a standard. It is not related to the general promise to license on FRAND terms.

http://www.wsgr.com/WSGR/Display.aspx?SectionName=publications/PDFSearch/clientalert_section5.htm


The Federal Trade Comission is cracking down on companies who particpate in the standard setting, agree to fair and reasonable licensing, then try ... seeking huge royalties .

Danny Detail

02/19/08 2:23 PM

#206781 RE: The Count #206774

The Count ..Your position is EXACTLY what MENS wants – settle for peanuts to get it done. Well F that. I believe IDCC has the goods. If they do, they should get fair compensation. If not, then they shouldn’t. But I will be pissed off if management settles like they did with ERICY for pennies on the dollar for 2G just as a decision was due.

Based on his actions since taking over I think that WM feels the same way and here is how he would say it (changes italicized):

Your position is EXACTLY what MENS wants – settle for peanuts to get it done. Well F that. I believe IDCC has the goods. If we do, we should get fair compensation. If not, then we shouldn’t. But as long as I am CEO I will be damned that we will settle again like we did with ERICY for pennies on the dollar for 2G just as a decision was due.

MO,
Danny

robweis

02/19/08 3:47 PM

#206789 RE: The Count #206774

Re: "pennies on the dollar"

Okay it's time somebody got on mgt's side on this.

Hypothetically, say we didn't settle for "pennies on the dollar". I see two possibilities:

1. IDCC wins (dimes on the dollar most likely). ERICY pays promptly. NOK & SAM on the hook for Gigabucks, but appeal endlessly same as they did.

2. IDCC loses. Whoops!!! $500,000,000 (E+N+S 2g) never comes in. No buyback. No ongoing development. Company soon sold out for $240M ($4/share). No 3G revenue, ever.

Remember, a win against MOT was thought a lock.


But I will be pissed off if management settles like they did with ERICY for pennies on the dollar for 2G just as a decision was due