Replies to post #125267 on Voip Pal Com Inc (VPLM)

[ham n slam]

folk that are here in the 5s 6s 7s 8s etc...just keep averaging down to exit? what else do you suggest...jmo

[ham n slam]

looking at the charts , this gets a run every 2-4 yrs...i guess we are stuck..only been here since january

[ORCA]

(((((getting us to the finish line. )))))THE ONLY FINISH LINE I SEE IS EMPTYING INVESTORS WALLETS.IMO.I MEAN IF ONE BOUGHT 100K SHARES AT .115 TODAY THAT INVESTOR HAS LOST AROUND 10K$ OUT OF $11,5 K.OR 85% IN A FEW MONTHS.

[nyt]

You missed the point and you missed the mark. You are ironically making yourself be guilty of the same sort of ideals you spoke of in you previous post. My post, 1st of all, was NOT about vplm being a scam. It was supposed to be in agreement with your points about being fair about other opinions. I made the expressed point in my reply that vplm could be for real or not. Apparently you skipped over that part. It was simply about treating other posters ideas with resect and consideration. I did not make it about a scam except at the end when posed the good questions that I did.

According to your post, being intelligent and successful rules out a scam so I guess you're saying that Bernie Madoff and those whom he conspjred with were not intelligent, successful or sophisticated...

You made good set of points then proceeded to negate yourself because just as my post was not about vplm being a scam, your previous post was not about it being for real, but you decided to take it there because you don't agree with my ideas. So you took a left turn from what you were saying at 1st.

My ideas and theories may or may not be right but they have many facts and logic and critical thinking behind them support them. Which ones of them, in particular, have you taken to task on their particular merits, to show it to be wrong?

[fung_derf]

Where is the money from the recent settlement then?
Pretty simple question.

[nyt]

There's something else that I wanted to say to you in that last reply I made but I think I forgot...

You sounded as tho you were contradicting yourself... Here's why...

"Now what I will say is I believe that Emil and others within the company are taking advantage of the situation they have created for sole purpose of enriching themselves."

I hate to tell you but to make that statement and at the same time say no way lord Emu could be scamming.......wwwwwell......pardon me but I'm sure that many ppl would agree that is a conflicting thing to say. It just doesn't jive. That amounts pretty closely to fraud and when added to the fact that he was indeed found guilty of breach of fiduciary duty AND UNJUST SELF ENRICHMENT by a jury of his peers......
and add to that how he twice sued Cameron and promised publicly to take the trial to the end and then walked out on both trials on the 1st day when Cameron showed him proof.......wwwell.....not too cool.........and later he promised that he had found computer meta data that proved cameron had changed the dates on his evidence that showed when he, Cameron, had written the script......oh, and then there was the time he hired his brother to run his nightclub even after the reports (that I posted the newspaper article here several times) said that his bro was a convicted or known pimp. That's an honest and forthright man?

He says also that he's a co-founder of Thorne bio medical doing years of cancer research in Germany. Maybe so. But I did extensive research on this and could not find a single word anywhere on the internet to show that company even exists. The funny part is there IS an American company by the exact same name that does cancer work and he is not associated with that. How to explain this? Show me any evidence whatsoever that there is a company by that name that he is a co-founder of. What is it....a secret company?
And where are his operas? And where are his children's books?
But forget about all that and just go by your own statement above where you accuse him of self enrichment at the cost of his shareholders and how that equates to him not being scam capable. If you backpedal it will only look worse.