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07/25/23 10:16 AM

#138576 RE: oceans11 #138540

Everybody posts because they want to make money.
Everybody.
Whoever says they’re not is lying.



It is truly scary to me that anyone thinks this. I really hope this isn't the majority view.

I post because I want to discuss the stock, not because I think my post will somehow influence someone to buy or sell. I don't have that kind of power, this forum doesn't have that kind of power.

Anyone that posts only because they think it is making them money needs to go start writing book reviews or something. You can actually make money doing those! Posting to a forum isn't making you anything.
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07/28/23 1:59 PM

#139467 RE: oceans11 #138540

"Everybody posts because they want to make money.
Everybody.
Whoever says they’re not is lying."


I'm actually gonna disagree with that!! Well, perhaps "PUMPER'S" might but not all "BASHER'S" do (nor those who simply want to convey information to a MB).

For starters, what about this and similar posts about those who don't own shares?

...he has no shares, doesn't like OTC stocks...starting to look like he has some kind of savior complex brewing now..


So many times I've read that a basher has no shares. Well, if that is the case then how is he/her they/them posting "because they want to make money"? (And, NO, I do NOT believe in "paid basher's" nor basher's being "shorter's" so no need to go there).

There are actually MANY reasons why a person might bash (complain, etc.) about a ticker/CEO:

https://investorshub.advfn.com/The-Truth-About-771

~BOARD DEFINITIONS~

Bashing: is a harsh, gratuitous, prejudicial attack on a person, group or subject.

Pumping Mod: is a moderator that pumps or promotes a stock and controls information flow on a particular board.

Altruistic Basher: An individual that has a true concern for the welfare of others and attempts to keep an unknowledgeable investor away from a security by posting negative information that sheds light on the scam or the pump.

Frolic Basher: An individual that has a negative sentiment for a security and posts on a message board to play with the longs and the scammers for pure entertainment purposes only.

Defrauded Basher: An individual who realized that "their" stock was a fraud, and partly feels the need to vent, and in addition, wants to warn others not to make the same mistake.

Dualistic Basher: An individual which was long in a security but then decides to sell the stock. At this point the individual will switch his or her sentiment on a message board in an attempt to devalue the same stock with the intentions of buying back at a lower price.

(Note: many believe this is a myth.)
Paid Basher: An individual, acting on the behalf of someone else, who attempts to devalue a stock by spreading false or exaggerated claims against a public company on a message board. After the stock's price has dropped, the basher's employer will then purchase the stock at a lower price than what he or she believes it is intrinsically worth. The basher is generally paid on the basis of how many lies and negative rumors are spread, which can dramatically affect a stock's value.

Cybersleuth: is an individual who uses the resources available on the World Wide Web for research. Generally applied to someone who ferrets out information about organizations, policies and procedures from the abundance of material available on-line.

Pump and dump schemes: involving use of false or misleading statements to hype stocks, which are "dumped" on the public at inflated prices. Such schemes involve telemarketing and Internet fraud.

Chop stocks: which are stocks purchased for pennies and sold for dollars, providing both brokers and stock promoters massive profits. Brokers are often paid "under the table" undisclosed payoffs to sell such stocks.

~POSSIBLE REASONS TO BASH~

(numbers based on the survey using 'much' and 'sometimes')

39% • Post because they feel the particular security is being pumped or that they are diluting and want to save the newbie investor.
34% • Just because it is fun to mess with the scammers. (Entertainment purposes)
19% • To prove to the scammers that “I'm” smarter.

Other miscellaneous reasons:

• Short seller.
• Long that sells a security then attempts to use bashing techniques to try to get in lower.
• Were defrauded - see "Defrauded Basher" above.
• Learning experience.


As seen on a profile:

Investment Philosophy: I never bash another stock. That's somebody's food on the table. Alot of theories of why this is done, but definitely the person is an a-hole.


Well, afaic, George Sharp "bashes" other tickers/CEOs (enough so as to have his own "ShitList" of them). Is GS an "a-hole" for doing it? And what about the posts when some "Revenge Pumper/Basher"(?) actually goes to another ticker and bash for the, seemingly, sole purpose of getting "revenge" on another poster because that poster might have pissed them off here? So they seek out tickers that person has posted to and/or is invested in and BASH it, but all the while, seemingly, not giving a damn about all the OTHER shareholders invested there. Also "a-holes"??

So is "complaining about an UNDER-PERFORMING ticker (Bashing, right?) always a bad thing and done "because they want to make money"? What about Sharp's tweets? .

George Sharp
@GeorgeASharp
Jun 2 [2021]
I am a major $HMBL investor both directly and indirectly through $FORW. That does not mean that I will not call out mistakes. It's what makes me credible. I am also an investor in $TSLA and that genius/idiot makes tons of mistakes.


And what if someone ACTUALLY beleives a ticker is a "scam"? What does GS say about that?

George Sharp
@GeorgeASharp
Please remember, when you make money on a scam, it means that somebody lost money on that same scam. Probably someone who could least afford it.
10:43 PM · Jul 7, 2021·Twitter Web App


And what about these folks? "Good Samaritans"? Where do they fit in?

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170552866

Wall Street Whistleblowers Tip Off SEC — But Hear Nothing Back


Okay, their ultimate motive might be "because they want to make money" but they don't have to post at all but, imo, when they do isn't it mainly just to convey information they might have found and, thus, to warn investors about a possible scam? Hey, sort of like what GS does!! (Hmmm, didn't GS used to work with some of them folks??)

And what about all these:

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=167347477

Certainly some of the basher's were correct in warning folks about them, no? And, imo, not all of the basher's were shareholders of them either so, imo, they couldn't have posted "because they want to make money", right? Must have been another reason for their posts.

And there's also this:

As far as posting on a crappy penny stock board like GVSI goes, I dont post during the day at all and just post a few times at night because I enjoy it more than I should.


Posting sometimes merely for ENTERTAINMENT?

Done!!

Sorry for the rant.

GLTA