jas, if they lowered the price 25%, they could own both the US and get mass adoptions in the EU. The volume would more than make up for the margins. I made a living out of that model. No one beats me on price...or volume. Hell, Fabric.com, owned by Amazon, a competitor, closed down business about 6 months ago. I realize it's a balance, but you are doing a lousy job of it if you are getting one rejection after another...all while wasting valuable time. I believe Denner understands this.