I don't work for the Kramers or Alpine or CDEL so I don't have the NSS position data in front of me at the moment but hey the fact that it's all coming to light for GTI! means it won't stop there. Market fraud takes place every day in the OTC it's not just a select few as some like to make us believe... When investigators look into the Alpine mess I will not be surprised there is some DBMM material in there. Why is CDEL still operating after 58 violations of fraud? How many times did DBMM commit fraud? Yah... I know what side of the fence I'm on...