Replies to post #15144 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[Maui]

sgolds,

Hard to argue that 90nm is not late based on historic standard. Anythings 90nm release later than Q3 03, is more than historic norm. The point was, can anyone (AMD) else transition to 90nm in less time than Intel and narrow the gap of 6 months ?

About the absolote need of 90nm Presscott to counter Opteron, I dont know. It would be nice from Intels perspective to have presscott to counter 130nm Opteron. But, note that AMD has quietly backed off from the initial expectation that 130nm Opteron will ship in volume. There have been saying that the real ramp will be on 90nm.

Maui.

[Petz]

In response to question from Mossesmann at 1:28

[After explaining that they had to change the thermal envelope for the platform of both products (Prescott and Dothan) "slightly" -- so that they could be sure that the platform would have enough "headroom."]

...After that he said this, "Both products are very sound. We're finishing up the last bit of circuit work to make sure we can enable very high volume manufacturing."

TRANSLATION: Neither product is ready for high volume manufacturing.

Also, considering the "headroom" comment, one way to have a smaller reduction in the thermal envelope is to reduce your assumptions about the headroom, i.e., higher frequencies for the product.

Petz