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[Morfeyus]

Ok guys. This is not new information. Yes the death rate for C19 Exclusively is low -which is why younger people and kids do pretty well with the virus. BUT how many people even on this forum, let alone in the country, have a pre existing condition????
Diabetes??? Increased mortality / morbidity
Any respiratory problems??? Asthma?? COPD?? WAY increased mort/ morbid
Overweight/ obese??? You are not going to do well
Over 60??? Strike against you
High BP??? Another strike

Point is, lots of people have pre existing conditions that, until the virus, were well controlled and did not impact their life particularly much. Once the virus is here, these managed conditions make the virus much more lethal

It is misleading to say that “only” a small percentage died of just the virus, so therefore it’s not as bad as it’s made out.
The virus and a pre existing condition are a bad combo.

And you are still just as dead.

[TheDane]

Here is a story with some of the data you speak of.. I’ve seen others doing similar analysis of overall u.s. deaths from the previous five years compared to now, but nothing as recent as this one.

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/08/28/is-the-coronavirus-crisis-finally-over/

[royalcrushflush]

So the latest data from the CDC in regards to mortality, is from 2018 from what I've seen. There is a provisional death count for covid-19 for 2019. From what I see covid-19 is already ranked one of the top 10 leading causes of death in the US this year. I hope this helps. Don't take what anyone says at face value including me. There's alot of people on this board who like to spread misinformation. I'm not sure if its intentional or not but it doesnt matter at the end of the day if you make sure you always do your own research and verify.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/default.htm

[Empiricst1]

Family man. This is traditional public health and you can google the numbers you want lots of ways. Play around. You pick a month in the past and compare it to this month. You make adjustments for any systemic issues like flu, etc. that are different from an "average month." Any differences you ascribe to the new variable (i.e. death coming from covid). Then do another month, and another, etc. This is the process that was used 20 or so years ago to find out how many died in Chicago's deadly Heat Wave. You pick a month (or a week, or a day, etc.) during the heat wave and compare the death rates then, to those in another time period, after adjusting for any ("non expected, or nonstandard events). So, your instinct it right on. You can easily project covid related deaths, though it will get harder if there is a flu season, lots of people killed from a natural event (i.e. 3,000 from Katrina). Notice that when you do the math you will probably find that the "official" covid deaths are substantially lower than the "expected or actual" counts. MY guess is from 10-50% lower. See what you come up with. Again, you are comparing existing deaths from expected deaths, adjusting for "outlier deaths). Simple in concept, but with lots of math, but my bet is someone has already posted it, probably Johns Hopkins or another quality research lab.

[PlentyParanoid]

CDC has a visualization of excess deaths due covid-19 plus underlying data available. see here
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

In mid August NY Times did an article based on CDC data.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html