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rmitra

04/05/20 2:25 PM

#262461 RE: rmitra #262438

Placebo effect --

One more comment about why it is appropriate to compare between groups and not between one group and baseline -- the placebo effect. There may be an effect on certain parameters, particularly those due to stress or inflammation, just due to the process of going through "treatment". So in addition to the E3 issue, that is why the baseline comparison is not appropriate.

Restingzebra

04/05/20 2:25 PM

#262462 RE: rmitra #262438

If you or anyone else has their ear, this is definately worth a call to them. I think they might be getting many emails.

Meowza

04/05/20 2:36 PM

#262469 RE: rmitra #262438

I would gently disagree with your last paragraph. As judge she doesn't get to make up her mind *before* looking for evidence. To me, that's not honorable.

circuitcity

04/05/20 2:48 PM

#262481 RE: rmitra #262438

Thank you for the comment, professor. I totally concur with you evaluation here that the error here is larger than on Mori, totally twisted the paper’s conclusion ( drew her own conclusion and it is a wrong one).

marjac

04/05/20 3:08 PM

#262494 RE: rmitra #262438

Speaking as a lawyer with 26 years experience, if Judge Du made up her mind that the patent was invalid and then went looking for reasons to support this conclusion, then she was most certainly not acting with honorable intent. She flagrantly violated her judicial oath of impartiality.

Judges are supposed to go where the evidence leads them, not conclude something and then try to squeeze the square peg of evidence into their round hole of a conclusion.

concapk

04/05/20 5:49 PM

#262585 RE: rmitra #262438

rmitra...

please send this post to Elisabeth ( IR ) ASAP... SHE'LL know what to do.... thank you

concapk

04/05/20 6:00 PM

#262594 RE: rmitra #262438

Someone on this board send this post #262438 to Elisabeth ASAP

Lemmiwinks

04/05/20 9:52 PM

#262707 RE: rmitra #262438

Am I reading it wrong? It looks like at 48 weeks the EPA group showed a -6.9% reduction of apoB at 48 weeks WITH a significant p value. So was this just EPA given to this group? Fudge.

rafunrafun

04/05/20 9:55 PM

#262709 RE: rmitra #262438

Side by side (top to bottom) comparison:

mc1988

04/05/20 10:21 PM

#262725 RE: rmitra #262438

rmitra, thank you for confirming the error.

I thought I provide the full Table 3 here since your crop is missing the table legend, and I notice the same error in rafunrafun's Twitter post here

Full Table 3 with an arrow to highlight of the legend that is missing from Judge Du's cropped version:


(The image above is from Kurabayashi, copy available here https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0029784400009881)

Those interested in comparing the full table with Judge Du's version can go to page 30 of the bench order here https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.118340/gov.uscourts.nvd.118340.381.0_1.pdf

Lemmiwinks

04/05/20 10:27 PM

#262729 RE: rmitra #262438

Anyone have the full Kurabayashi Article link? I’ve only been able to read the abstract. Gonna look just to give another set of eyes but what I’ve seen is quite disturbing so far. Potentially good for us. But disturbing none the less

Lemmiwinks

04/05/20 10:42 PM

#262742 RE: rmitra #262438

Just top notch!!! Top notch!!!