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amarininvestor

04/05/20 12:08 PM

#262396 RE: HDGabor #262385


No, I am not. I know / saw both of them. The ss change in the EPA + e arm is enough for hypothesis.




Not sure I agree with that HDG, you cannot take a piece of data in isolation for hypothesis generation:

- If you have a statistical significant difference between arm, you can hypothesize that EPA alone may reduce ApoB
-If you have a change (either direction) in the arm that you combine with another lipid modifying agent (estriol) you cannot reasonable make the hypothesis that EPA reduces ApoB without comparing to your control arm. Maybe in the legal-world or patent-world that is OK but there is no way in my mind that a POSA would find that conclusion reasonable neither would find that sufficient for hypothesis generation

circuitcity

04/05/20 12:25 PM

#262400 RE: HDGabor #262385

Hdg, rmitra, amarinvestor,

I agree with Amarininvestor here. A similar exercise like rmitra did on Mori could be useful here, if rmitra is kind enough to do this.

jomama9231

04/05/20 12:41 PM

#262403 RE: HDGabor #262385

How G? Look at that table. All comparisons even within the epa estriol group are not ss except until you get to 48 weeks. That has to lose a lot of credibility. Also it is no where In discussion or conclusion of article. I don’t think this is hypothesis generating.

Piyao

04/05/20 2:26 PM

#262463 RE: HDGabor #262385

Comparing baseline and one of the arm to detect the statistic significance is meaningless, it totally invalidate the foundation of A/B testing.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41393-018-0203-y

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3286439/