What exactly would you have them do at this point? You and suvorov can find nothing good to say about any aspect of this company. So how would you advise them from this day forward, if indeed they do want to try to prove Reserves. If nothing else this company has a good location for exploration, theoretically. They are challenged financially. With your wealth of knowledge, how should they proceed? Or should they just send out a PR tomorrow saying that they're closing up shop, because it's no use to try. If I've said it once I've said it a million times we're all adults here, we probably all have had experience with OTC stocks, and we're all pretty capable of making our own decisions. We don't need to hear the same thing said over and over and over again in differently configured sentences. We're obviously willing to take the chance, and believe in the company. If you can't beat them join them. Call Glenn, get his version of the story and offer him suggestions if you feel you thought really good ones. Have a good evening