Replies to post #89162 on Iconic Brands Inc (ICNB)

[The Whale]

And again, that revised valuation of 73 cents is a joke. We can barely sustain 2 cents.

ICNB

[cjstocksup]

Revised ICNB .73+ Fundamental Valuation by stervc
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128361909

Previously within the link below, I had posted that the recent ICNB acquisition of the Bellissima Prosecco made ICNB worth .19+ per share through ”logical” deduction:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127725203

The valuation was derived through the consideration of the max capacity of cases sold per month to be 30,000 cases:

Quote:

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/iconic-brands-icnb-bellissima-prosecco-news-2186212.htm
The company is positioned with current monthly allocated capacity of 30,000 cases which can be increased based on demand…


However, based on the logic that was delivered within your post below, it is fair to consider that the max capacity of cases to be sold per month will be 50,000 cases:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128135215

What I will do is use the ”Substitution Property” to substitute out 30,000 cases per month with 50,000 cases per month and I will substitute out the Price to Earnings (P/E) Ratio I used for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry to be what is listed from the ”official” link you sent me below indicating a P/E Ratio of 45.06 to use for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry:

Quote:

http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html





Before reading any further regarding the upcoming fundamental valuation for ICNB, read through the links below to better understand the logic that could be considered for the P/E Ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57154170
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-earningsratio.asp

Now let’s redefine the ”Key Variables” below:

Key Variables to Note
** $19.99 Per Bottle
** 6 Bottles Per Case
** 50,000 Cases Sold Per Month
** Outstanding Shares (OS) = 814,790,609 shares
** Net Profit Margin for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry is 18.60% (.1860) As of 1-Feb-2017
https://biz.yahoo.com/p/347conameu.html
** Recent P/E Ratio of 45.06 for the Beverage (Alcoholic/ Wineries & Distillers) Industry http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html

I must reiterate… this now means that the below valuation will lean more towards being an ”actual valuation” versus just being a ”speculative valuation” since ICNB is well beyond the Research and Development phase and is currently within the Marketing, Distribution, and Sales phases.

For inquiring minds, if 18.60% equals the Net Profit Margin, then this means that 100% minus 18.60% equals the Net Expense Margin which equates to 81.40% as the Net Expense Margin.
(100% – 18.60% = 81.40%)

Fair Presumption: What this means is that any kind of expenses or fees that anyone chooses to come up with that is believe to be left out, for the purpose of this post, will be considered calculated and inclusive to be accounted for as part of the 81.40% Net Expense Margin.

Let’s derive...

** 50,000 Cases Per Month x 6 Bottle Per Case = 300,000 Bottles

* 300,000 Bottles Per Month x $19.99 Per Bottle = $5,997,000 Revenues Per Month

** $5,997,000 Revenues Per Month x 12 Months = $71,964,000 Revenues Per Year

** $71,964,000 Revenues Per Year x .1860 Net Profit Margin = $13,385,304 Net Income

Formula to use to derive the Earnings Per Share (EPS)…

Net Income ÷ Outstanding Shares (OS) = EPS
$13,385,304 Net Income ÷ 814,790,609 shares = .0164 EPS

Formula to use to derive the ICNB Share Price Valuation…

EPS x P/E Ratio = ICNB Share Price Valuation

.0164 EPS x 45.06 P/E Ratio = .738 ICNB Share Price Valuation

This means that it is fair to presume that ICNB could be fundamentally trading in the .73+ per share range based on their acquisition of Bellissima Prosecco and considering the max capacity of 50,000 cases per month. As more news is released by the company to confirm even greater growth that is upon the horizon, I believe the market will begin to see this and more as ICNB still is very much undervalued in my opinion.

Stay tuned… much much more is coming in my opinion!

v/r
Sterling

[The Whale]

That 73 cent valuation is just too funny.

ICNB

[hedge_fun]

Thanks for reviving the .73 valuation.......

[The Whale]

I think we should hit 73 cents tomorrow with the BEVMO news. Seems more than reasonable.

ICNB ;)

[The Whale]

Revised ICNB .004- Fundamental Valuation by The Apostle

[BigJuan]

This is by far one of the most informative ICNB posts here!


Revised ICNB .73+ Fundamental Valuation by stervc

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128361909

Previously within the link below, I had posted that the recent ICNB acquisition of the Bellissima Prosecco made ICNB worth .19+ per share through ”logical” deduction:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127725203

The valuation was derived through the consideration of the max capacity of cases sold per month to be 30,000 cases:

Quote:

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/iconic-brands-icnb-bellissima-prosecco-news-2186212.htm
The company is positioned with current monthly allocated capacity of 30,000 cases which can be increased based on demand…


However, based on the logic that was delivered within your post below, it is fair to consider that the max capacity of cases to be sold per month will be 50,000 cases:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128135215

What I will do is use the ”Substitution Property” to substitute out 30,000 cases per month with 50,000 cases per month and I will substitute out the Price to Earnings (P/E) Ratio I used for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry to be what is listed from the ”official” link you sent me below indicating a P/E Ratio of 45.06 to use for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry:

Quote:

http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html





Before reading any further regarding the upcoming fundamental valuation for ICNB, read through the links below to better understand the logic that could be considered for the P/E Ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57154170
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-earningsratio.asp

Now let’s redefine the ”Key Variables” below:

Key Variables to Note
** $19.99 Per Bottle
** 6 Bottles Per Case
** 50,000 Cases Sold Per Month
** Outstanding Shares (OS) = 814,790,609 shares
** Net Profit Margin for the Beverage (Alcoholic) Industry is 18.60% (.1860) As of 1-Feb-2017
https://biz.yahoo.com/p/347conameu.html
** Recent P/E Ratio of 45.06 for the Beverage (Alcoholic/ Wineries & Distillers) Industry http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html

I must reiterate… this now means that the below valuation will lean more towards being an ”actual valuation” versus just being a ”speculative valuation” since ICNB is well beyond the Research and Development phase and is currently within the Marketing, Distribution, and Sales phases.

For inquiring minds, if 18.60% equals the Net Profit Margin, then this means that 100% minus 18.60% equals the Net Expense Margin which equates to 81.40% as the Net Expense Margin.
(100% – 18.60% = 81.40%)

Fair Presumption: What this means is that any kind of expenses or fees that anyone chooses to come up with that is believe to be left out, for the purpose of this post, will be considered calculated and inclusive to be accounted for as part of the 81.40% Net Expense Margin.

Let’s derive...

** 50,000 Cases Per Month x 6 Bottle Per Case = 300,000 Bottles

* 300,000 Bottles Per Month x $19.99 Per Bottle = $5,997,000 Revenues Per Month

** $5,997,000 Revenues Per Month x 12 Months = $71,964,000 Revenues Per Year

** $71,964,000 Revenues Per Year x .1860 Net Profit Margin = $13,385,304 Net Income

Formula to use to derive the Earnings Per Share (EPS)…

Net Income ÷ Outstanding Shares (OS) = EPS
$13,385,304 Net Income ÷ 814,790,609 shares = .0164 EPS

Formula to use to derive the ICNB Share Price Valuation…

EPS x P/E Ratio = ICNB Share Price Valuation

.0164 EPS x 45.06 P/E Ratio = .738 ICNB Share Price Valuation

This means that it is fair to presume that ICNB could be fundamentally trading in the .73+ per share range based on their acquisition of Bellissima Prosecco and considering the max capacity of 50,000 cases per month. As more news is released by the company to confirm even greater growth that is upon the horizon, I believe the market will begin to see this and more as ICNB still is very much undervalued in my opinion.

Stay tuned… much much more is coming in my opinion!

v/

Sterling

[buccaneer1961]

based on fudged ratings????? wheres the finances?

[The Whale]

73 cents??? LMAO!!!

ICNB

BUYER BEWARE

[buccaneer1961]

that's a retarted valuation the company gave you...gooooo iconic!

[buccaneer1961]

psssst....hey! WHEN IS DILLUTION EVER A GOOD THING????? DIDNT YOU MEAN PPS .00073??

[buccaneer1961]

isn't there a gap way below that has to fill?

[buccaneer1961]

HEY!!!!!!!! WHEN IS DILLUTION A GOOD THING??????????

[buccaneer1961]

.73 ??? really?? HEY!! REALLY???? BASED ON WHAT? TURN THE CHART RIGHTSIDE UP THEN YOUL SEE THE TRUE DOWNTREND

[buccaneer1961]

have they filed an extention for the 10k? WHY YES!! where is the 10k??

HEY! WHERE IS THAT 10K?????????????? WHEN WAS IT DUE?????????

I BELIEVE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

[The Whale]

I think it's time to retire this 73 cent valuation. It's over.

ICNB

[buccaneer1961]

seems more like a .0073 valuation correction to me