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hawke

02/16/17 11:05 AM

#21749 RE: ShortonCash #21745

Economical feasibility along w/tangible product would be a start!
DOE Grant product closure w/claim would be of value. Tangible products of value equal revenue.
Not to much to ask from SH. IMO
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ShortonCash

02/16/17 6:30 PM

#21766 RE: ShortonCash #21745

Neah Power Systems has patented a three-dimensional porous silicon based lithium-metal battery that has demonstrated 1,500 watts per liter of volume and 500 watts per kilogram.This battery uses older generation computer chip manufacturing technology that is widely available throughout the world, enabling a low cost, which the company targets at $150 per kilowatt hour in high volume production. (as copied from the SBV.org site...)

Some third party benchmarks...

https://www.sbv.org/projects/am-round2-neah.html


https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/21/fact-sheet-obama-administration-announces-federal-and-private-sector



Announcing that the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) will Lead Research to Achieve the Strategic Battery500 Goal: A multi-partner team, led by PNNL as part of the Battery500 research consortium, will receive an award of up to $10 million per year for five years to drive progress on DOE’s goal of reducing the cost of vehicle battery technologies. Battery costs exceeded $500/kWh when President Obama launched his EV Everywhere Grand Challenge goal of making EVs that are as affordable and convenient for the American family as gasoline-powered vehicles, and low-cost, high performance batteries are a key component of the strategy to attain the President’s goal. The Battery500 Consortium aims to triple the specific energy (to 500 WH/kg) relative to today's battery technology while achieving 1,000 electric vehicles cycles. This will result in a significantly smaller, lighter weight, less expensive battery pack (below $100/kWh) and more affordable EVs. The Battery500 consortium will include four DOE National Laboratories and five universities in an effort aimed at achieving revolutionary advances in battery performance. Consortium partners include the following:

Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (research partner and advisory board)
Brookhaven National Laboratory
Idaho National Laboratory
SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory
Binghamton University (State University of New York)
Stanford University (research partner and advisory board)
University of California, San Diego
University of Texas at Austin
University of Washington
IBM (advisory board)
Tesla Motors, Inc. (advisory board)

https://www.sbv.org/projects/am-round2-neah.html



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apostrophe

02/19/17 8:42 PM

#21796 RE: ShortonCash #21745

re: "Through the SBV Pilot, the company will utilize Argonne National Laboratory staff and expertise to determine the optimal metallization scheme for porous silicon as well as reliable and reproducible processes and insights into possible causes of degradation, capacity fade and dendrite growth."

As I recall, degradation, capacity fade and dendrite growth were severe problems with the original lithium battery. It took a lot of experimentation, design tweaking and lastly, pure luck, to finally stumble on the right combination of additives to get it working good enough for commercialization. Since this is a new design, will the same fixes apply? The wording seems carefully chosen to avoid sounding negative but doesn't really rule out that there may be some bugs yet to be worked out.