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Cytotekk

07/03/06 7:39 PM

#1851 RE: OriginalFred #1850

OrFred, I can't argue with you about facts, they are what they are...FACTS. Glad that is what you want to discuss..facts.

Yes, frustration I can see..and feel. But the issue here and that is being dealt with is not just valid frustration, it is out of line name calling and accusations of lying...yucky stuff.

As for the last quarterly report...you have a point but I don't see you calling people liars as Loss does.If we can drop that nonsense we can get to the real discussion of how things should have been and are now.

SEC filings? Criticize away, disappointing....personal attacks...NO.

The numbers are not what we expected and I sure hope the next filing is better.

I think the CEO made his revenue estimates optimistically, unfortunately I do think he overestimated the market for a million dollar EVS system. Doesn't make him a liar, just makes him wrong about projections.

EVS2 should fill the bill, royalties coming from that as well, confirmed. EVS/SVS will be insurance driven, a standard of operation. EVS2 is cheaper and easier to retrofit, less down time. I see great sales coming and the insurance discounts will drive the installations. If Kollsman has something they can slap on in a short time, less doewn time, it will sell...a million bucks a body after a crash (I do autopsies when I can't avoid it)...insurance will drive this.

Watch and see, I will be right about that.


loss_slayer

07/03/06 8:21 PM

#1854 RE: OriginalFred #1850

Your post Fred sums up THE reasoning for my posts exactly.How many people came to this stock for those numbers?
None more than likely.Cyto seems to think those filings are great. I believe most investors in this stock...traders or whatever...were reasonably led to beleive the outlook would be much,much more better.Its true these filers are covered behind and protected behind the forward looking statements. I just fail to see how Ball could have been off tarket by so much....and filed the same outlook over and over qtr by qtr k after k....many times if not everytime at least.So he is covered with the forward looking statement. Well, he should have poste long ago his 30 million target outlook or whatever you might call it....was going to miss the mark and then some of the stucks...wouldn't be forced to pump so hard and do dd sheets.I have pointed out the error in that outlook...judge for your selves if this could be a scam or not. AND remember do your own dd right and also,remember....this company has had that evs story 30 million potential,blah blah for years.
Now look at the filings and the numbers posted....what do you think they should be...based on all the filings.BLEAK...DARN RIGHT.