Replies to post #96663 on DD Support Board and Research Team

[janice shell]

Oh c'mon. Patton was, as I'm sure you know, problematic. Yes, he did take Sicily. And later he was an effective leader in the Battle of the Bulge.

Butt.. he was also a prick.

I would add that perhaps womens' noted failure as CEOs - and they have had many, many chances, may in fact be due to a lack of a necessary "alpha male" component of personality (on average).

Ya think? Or perhaps it's just that an economy driven by alpha males doesn't benefit anyone except those alphas. Maybe you're looking at a kind of ruthlessness that isn't really admirable. And you applaud it nonetheless. Sure, Carly Fiorina wasn't a great CEO of HP. But let's consider more modest CEOs. Consider Angie of Angie's list. I don't really know much about the company, but, damn, I wish I'd had that idea. And she did have an idea. Carly didn't'; she just grew up in the corporate culture and got better and better jobs.

Probably because she actually thought four hour meetings were useful, and participated, instead of doodling, as I did at my own meetings.

[DragonBear]

That is non-delegatable (sp) leadership and command.

And then one had Kelly Johnson who headed the Lockheed Skunkworks. His rather successful management revolved around 3 principles:

1. Delegate responsibility.

2. Hold those delegated the responsibility accountable.

3. Get the hell out of the way, and let em do their jobs!!!

Montgomery was a low risk General. The massive casualties in WWI haunted the British military leadership. All of their decisions were made to minimize casualties - low risk, low return. Patton was high risk, high return. Fortunately for Patton by Jul 1944, everything was low risk, high return.

I would add that perhaps womens' noted failure as CEOs - and they have had many, many chances, may in fact be due to a lack of a necessary "alpha male" component of personality (on average).

Carly Fiorina seemed to try extra hard to mark her HP territory. The day she was fired, the employees erupted in celebration- literally. The music could be heard over the phone from the Wizard of Oz: "Ding dong the wicked witch is dead". Guess they didn't like the smell of the scent.