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Early MVTG DIY'rs could supply the formic acid to new DIY'rs. I think Amazon and Ebay have small quantities for sale. Any local chemical distributor like the one I use to work for can sell it in 55 gallon drums and usually 5 gallon pails, but it gets pricy in less than 55 gal drum quantities. Bee keepers use it routinely!!! It is also used as antifreeze at airports in the winter for deicing planes (the sodium salt version, sodium formate)

https://www.google.com/search?q=formic+acid+buy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/formic-acid

https://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?query=formic

Or get a great deal buying surplus (recycling) here

http://www.magitsurplus.com/lists/odds_n_ends.html

Sodium formate here:

http://deicersnowmeltingthawing.com/deicingthawingsodiumformate.htm

Alibaba seems to have plenty :-)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/granular-sodium-formate-white-runway-deicer_1342868029.html

Offered Packing:

Sodium Formate is offered in 25kg (55 lbs) or 50kg (110 lbs) bags or Jumbo bags or as desired by the buyer.
Sodium Formate Solution 50% is offered in 210 liter or 55 gallons drums or in 1000 liter 265 gallons tote.

Formic acid might be used to rejuvenate the used sodium formate (which turns into sodium carbonate as the formate ion reacts to form carbonate ions)!!!!!

DIY'rs would love that aspect!!!! Might be able to use a pH meter or simple cheap titrator to recycle small or large batchs to a precise restored concentration!!! It would even make a nice business start up for cycle shops.

EPA would have no problem with it!!!!