Right, we've been right on the edge of the big breakthrough for the last 10 years which is why no insiders have bought, for fear of the SEC. I'm sorry but everyone from Phil forward has been brimming with confidence, yet we're below 80 cents, no revenue, no contracts, still no names disclosed, no insider buying, no trading volume, no white papers, running out of cash, nothing. These guys keep serving up the kool-aid and we keep drinking.