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CombJelly

04/06/06 1:28 AM

#3600 RE: chipdesigner #3594

"Of course, this says nothing about production parts."

Remember the copper K6's at Fab30? However, a SC K8L does make sense.
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chipguy

04/06/06 8:50 AM

#3609 RE: chipdesigner #3594

Um, you might want to take a look at a labeled K8 die photo before you embarrass yourself further.

You mean the annotated version of Wouter's photo on Ace's?

You have got to be joking. Compare the 90 nm and 65 nm die
photos. Notice the subtle differences in the small memory
arrays between the instruction pipeline and the datapath
side of the core.


You're clearly not looking very closely. It's *much* larger relative to the ALU, compared to the K8.

Maybe to the untrained eyes of someone who is hoping to see
something that is not there.


Yet another garbage post from you.

You really think the 65 nm K8's L2 is implemented with 8 rough
"row elements"
?

http://www.aceshardware.com/forums/read_post.jsp?id=115160290&forumid=1

For an expert in producing garbage you sure can't tell what is
and isn't.


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chipguy

04/06/06 12:40 PM

#3614 RE: chipdesigner #3594

Oh yeah, the decoders that look like memory structures.

Um, you might want to take a look at a labeled K8 die photo before you embarrass yourself further.


Nice call Doug.


http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/index.cfm?action=detail&PostNum=4254&Thread=9&entryI...

">Do you think there is a fourth decoder like Gipsel argues
>here:
>
>http://www.aceshardware.com/forums/read_post.jsp?id=115160237&forumid=1
>

These are the micro-code ep(roms) for complex cisc
instructions. They operate as one single memory since
they all get the same address from the micro-sequencer
which handles the complex instructions. Going from 3 to
4 therefor doesn't say anything at all, it's just more
memory, or the same amount of memory with larger cells.
The rest of the architecture is visibly 3-way. The re-
order buffer, the integer schedulers, the integer ALU's. "


The supposed FP boosted K8L with essentially unchanged FPU.

You're clearly not looking very closely. It's *much* larger relative to the ALU, compared to the K8.


Another nice call Doug.


">And what do you think about the floating point units?
>


It's virtualy identical to existing K8's. There are also 3 HT
units and not 4 as claimed by somebody at aces. It's not a K8L."