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Re: ocroft post# 35743

Thursday, 08/23/2012 7:51:58 AM

Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:51:58 AM

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Hey Ocroft, I know AIM Basic reasonably well from memory but have no longer the spread sheets. . .I get lost in the various versions of Vortex I keep here and there. . .and then when I look at them and say. . ."What the heck did I do here???smile Good to be able to get spreads If I would need one. . .I do not want to get carried away to dive into that AIM Basic Thing again smile At the moment I am Running a Dry SPY Demo and normally I use that version if I start something new. It is "geared" not to go to negative Reserve.

If it used Clives, I would beat Vortex. If it used mine, we would be equal.
We both could probably beat Vortex if we observed its action with its own parameters used by its key operator. This is why I introduced the GE example.
You can decide on everything on your own then optimise the Run. . . that is ok with me.


The fat text is more or less what I was referring to earlier.

Just for Fun: How could Vortex beat Vortex? smile

Furthermore with the example you provided we have prior knowledge of future prices. . .In my statement I mentioned that for an assumed price behaviour, and IF that occurs, then all of us can optimise the yield to its absolute maximum. The Real Test would be on a Real Stock, and then do a run say for 6 months or a year.

On your example I have put in a Buy Hold Zone of 77% or so and then my first buy would be 20000 at the price of about ~8. Optimum perfotmasnce! Then with a Sell Hold Zone of 20% I would have made 20% profit selling the 20000 (or I could sell stepwise upwards). As it is the price rise is 18,8 % or so, it did not trigger a Sell yet.

Probably this is not what you meant, but I am not sure.

Question
Would you actually buy 10000 at Day 1 or would you use any other CER as I would? When I optimise for a specific price behaviour I might use a Reserve of 95% at Day 1.

I see two options here:
1. At Day 1 do Real Buy at some CER and then proceed AIMing virtually to the bottom and the recovery of X % to Buy the Accumulated AIM or Vortex Advice at the Bottom Price. . . .this is done at each Bottom. Does Ocroft Sell after that at a 20% rise or do you do some stepwise selling on the rising prises?
2. At Day 1 nothing is bought and one waits for the price to change. If it rises nothing can be sold. . .If they drop one has 20000 as reserve to play with.

Knowing the prices ahead of time and not laying down the rules makes the Challenge meaningless. . . .I then put in 100% at the Bottom. . .In reality I would not know that bottom, so I would have to wait till a recovery happens.. . The only thing is that I have not programmed Vortex . . .yet. . .to do this automatically. As a recovery occurs at the Sell hold zone I get a Sell Advice at a price of say 11 or 12. I know what the Buy Advice is at 8 and at 12 I can simply buy THAT amount of stock. . .that is what you appear to do too, but then we are doing the same thing.

This process using the Filter to detect the Recovery is not an Automatic one in Vortex. . .Vortex is not an Auto-Trading System. . .It is like AIM an Trade Advice System. . I as Manager can delay any trade I do not like and wait . . . in that mode I am The Filter and then I do what I think is the right thing to do. A test on unknown future prices would be interesting, but it would then depend on Stock Picking also. . .





Conrad Winkelman
What is Vortex AIMing? Look for my Vortex Discussion Forum:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=1341

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