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Re: sami1327 post# 107827

Monday, 09/29/2008 12:07:55 AM

Monday, September 29, 2008 12:07:55 AM

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Et Tu Brutii? lol. Hey Sami & Montana

WORDPLAY
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Well, with so much time passing, was beginning to think nobody was interested. Always glad to get a nibble or two on a cast.

Where to start? Montana, Hello. Hope all is well.

To answer: a blimp is a specific type of airship, but still an airship. Yes, the HiSentinel is a blimp, but first and foremost it is an airship. There are both rigid or non-rigid versions of airships (those with powered and steerable flight vs. the common balloon), but blimps are strictly non-rigid.

Also, the HiSentinel people refer to their craft as an airship, so it works for me.

http://www.aerostar.com/aerospace.htm

Interestingly enough, Stuttgart's Stratellite seems a blimp, but they also prefer the generic term airship...no matter.

By coincidence, this all sets the stage nicely for us, Sami.


CHHAPP=Composite Hull High Altitude Powered Platform
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3 questions to you SAMI:

1. Does the method to which an airship attains the stratosphere or leaves determine if it's a High Altitude Airship?

Careful answering here Sami (tongue in check), my friend, you may upset the Stratxx (Stratxx.com) people, who seem to think their:

CHHAPP is a HAP and a HAA. Sorry, my Dr. Suess moment.

2 Did you know that HAA(tm), technically is no longer terminology but a trademark? Those damn marketing people ruin everything.....

3. Is the Stratellite an HAA(tm)? If not, then how in the world could the military be awarding Sanswire's Stratellite program 10 million through this act of Congress we read about, and that i posted to Mide & WarpCore61 to be careful of their intrepretation.....

The Answer to this is Simple:
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HiSentinel is:
1. an airship
2.It's also a platform
3.It's also a CHHAPP
4.It's Stratospheric
5.The stratosphere is high altitude

HiSentinel is as much a high altitude airship as our Stratellite and the Stratxx X-station, assuming we're using the term and not the trademark (HAAtm).

Disposability is not the determining factor as you write, nor is a CHHAPP delivery system when one discusses HAA.


It's a trademark first. Thus, all HAA's must be Lockheed Martin's. Unless of course, we divorce ourselves from marketing......

Guess, what am saying is like Montana's blimp. A blimp is an airship, but an airship may not be a blimp.

Without marketing terminology, a CHHAPP is a high altitude airship, but an HAA may not be a CHHAPP.

You know what i love, that CHHAPP contains the term high altitude....and they are called airships, seperately....lol.

So where does that leave us?
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A warning that monies earmarked for the HAA program may not be for the Stratellite, as was possibly suggested in an earlier post.

Also, that 10 million funding could obviously be for Lockheed Martin, since they were the reason for the military HAA program firstly, just as HiSentinel was for their CHHAPP program.....

Quote from from isrjournal:

"High-altitude airships, defined by the ability to fly above 40,000 feet..."

One last thing. Why did i suspect the HAA (non-tm-ed in Budget) request for funds was pegged to the HiSentinel if it has it's own budget, CHHAPP?

Because the HiSentinel50 failed, as the article that was posted stated. And that technically, HiSentinel is a high altitude airship, and should qualify to exist under the HAA program also......hint hint.

So, which is easier to ask congress to reallot money for:

"We, the US Army, want funds moved into the CHHAPP program to redo the HiSentinel50 (50lb) Experiment, because the darn first one got away from us before we could evaluate it".....

or

"We want to place 10 million into a dormant program to conduct HAA experiments (50lbs) that are similar to our now temporarily suspended (crash) CHHAPP program, [which are both under the same roof and because hey, a HiSentinel is an HAA, too.lol]......"
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Anyway, that's my take on it.

It probably does not help anyone, but the intentions were good, be assured.

Nite,
Montana & Sami...

p.s. anymore nibbles out there?

And does this help anyone or am i way out there..stratospherically speaking?


















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