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Re: rachelelise post# 25257

Tuesday, 01/06/2004 10:53:05 PM

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:53:05 PM

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edit: specific and informative?

guess it all depends on the reader's perspective.

(bolds mine)

By: highonwavx
28 Dec 2003, 12:52 PM EST Msg. 103650 of 103702
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OT: Cm...

I hereby request that you at least post one new message a week, we will call it CM's Corner, where you can highlight anything new you would like to add to this long journey.

Deal? , by the way look for a MAJOR PR in Q1

shhhhh


High

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB00135&read=103650

High claimed i musta "misunderstood" his words on DD... SO, how else would one interpret the above post?

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IMO the revisions of sec. 8 (below) are "informative" (as well as dark comedy)

http://www.unclever.com/wavx/3Q2002Amended.html

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there are certainly plenty of "mean words" that are penned by people here other than me, though they champion things like management of public companies deceiving their shareholders for machiavellian "stay afloat" purposes. there are many examples of this sort of thing that i'm sure you've read...

IMO "extremely obnoxious" is the deletion of posts entirely relevant to the discourse b/c they don't comport w/a diehard long's viewpoint.

you have always been worth reading & even-keeled & i respect that -- i have no "mean words" for you rachel.

be careful holding wavx.

JMO

edit: i find this informative. & having been around back to 1998 i can say that Joe Trippi ("random1") did stop posting when he went to work for the Spragues & he disclosed his role w/Wave in a farewell post.

http://www.aether.com/archives/000020.html

November 06, 2003
Joe Trippi - Mastermind?

I've been busy trying to close my Howard Dean/Emergent Media story for Wired, which accounts for a few days of silence here, but I did notice this very interesting Joe Trippi profile at The New Republic.

Trippi is such an interesting character that I was tempted to make him the center of my story. I chose not to because I wanted to talk about the structure of the campaign rather than background of the man managing it. But now I'm especially glad I didn't go this route, because Noam Scheiber's piece is very good.

Scheiber talks about Trippi's experience as a stock speculator and participant in the infamous Raging Bull message boards. Trippi was a vocal investor in Wave Systems and then an employee of the company. Scheiber is fairly charitable about this, only indirectly alluding to the collapse of Wave's share price. (It ran from the teens to the high forties in 1999 and 2000 and bottomed out at about .75 after the crash - it now floats at around $2.50.) When I first found this out, while doing research for my own story on Dean, I wasn't sure what to make of it. For one thing, I haven't yet figured out if, at the time that Trippi was praising the stock on the message boards, he was also taking a check from the company, or if he stopped hyping the stock when he was hired. And, though I figured quite a bit could be made of this by somebody with an ax to grind, it is the kind of thing that seems most significant to people who are unfamiliar with the rather peculiar environment of the R.B. message boards during the height of the boom. I spent a lot of time on Raging Bull when researching Dumb Money. From Sheiber's piece, it sounds like everybody in the Wave Systems forum knew exactly what was going on with Trippi - and were completely thrilled that one of the online traders who was long on Wave was in a position to communicate directly with the company executives. I suspect that, given the denoument, this may be a slight exageration. On the other hand, Wave survived the crash - albeit after its shareholders took a brutal haircut - and that's more than can be said for most of such bubble companies.

Anyway, for a look at Trippi way back when, here is an interview with random1 from January 27, 2000. This quote is a perfect expression of the machismo of the R.B. boards just before the bubble burst:

"Most of my online friends just cannot figure out exactly what I do for a living, and to tell you the truth there are days where even I don't know. I can be in a Senate race in Oregon one day, on MSNBC or Fox as a commentator the next, and then suddenly find myself on a plane to Greece or Africa, the Middle East, or even Belgrade in the middle of hostilities. Nothing concentrates the mind like a secret police guy with an Uzi pointed in your direction. I get my biggest laughs from online slammers who think they can somehow freak me out of my stock."

Online slammers refers to short-sellers who would jump into a company discussion and spread false rumors (or true ones), trying to create some downward movement so that that could "cover" at a lower price.
Posted by garywolf at November 6, 2003 06:29 PM / TrackBack


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Talked to Trippi today - he says he informed the board immediately when he became an employee of Wave and stopped hyping the stock. I also asked if he still owned any WAVX - he said he didn't know. We had a short, interesting conversation about campaign tactics, and he announced his intention to put 2-3 million volunteers on the street during the end stage of the campaign against Bush next October. A nice, big, bold claim...
Posted by: Gary Wolf at November 7, 2003 03:06 PM

As I recall in that era of the VERY difficult discounting of what WAVE was "worth" it seemed to me that Trippi was clearly "upfront" when he went to work for the company. The core group there was pretty savvy and intolerant of hrsht and many played the rises and falls on news pretty well.

It's still a bit of a puzzle how WAVE DID manage to piss away the value of a patent that should had given them an edge in the whole E-security arena. Their patent should have yet more value in both the expanding commercial uses of the net as well as for the the "war on terrorism" but seem to have excelled at "will to fail" efforts within.

You may still be able to cruise RB to correlate Trippi's disclusures with joining the company. I'd be surprised if there were dishonesty there, Jack Keane 907-727-5336
Posted by: Jack Keane at December 8, 2003 01:45 AM



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