zen88 - I do not normally post over here anymore, but saw your post and found it to be really something that could get to the heart of the issue (for many), and perhaps get cleared up once and for all.
You said: "that the naysayers don't have an 'awk' or 'cm' or Weby, to point to as a person that seems to have put a complete argument together as to why Wave WON'T succeed"
First - I think we could all debate the difference between true naysayers, and those who simply are frustrated. I would agree that there are true naysayers, but not everyone who complains about Troux is a naysayer ~ except perhaps in the eyes of some. For example: I'm pretty certain that many on this board believe that I am either a naysayer, or someone on the verge of a nervous breakdown if Wave doesn't begin making me money immediately. Neiter of which are true.
However, you might agree that, on this board, anyone who has lost patience, and says so with any regularity seems to be "sometimes unfairly" labeled as a naysayer ~ so over time, it becomes harder to tell the difference.
Many, including myself, still do believe that Wave will succeed, just as much as the rest of you. This may be hard for some on this baord to believe, or understand. Although I have sold some Wave (and bought) over the years, I have never divorced myself from having a significant position in Wave, simply because I still consider it the best long-term investment that I could have.
That being said, how could someone in my position ever want to make such an argument? I can honestly say that it is quite likely that I believe that Wave will succeed (on some level) just as much as you do. You don't have to agree or disagree, because I'm not asking you to. However, you might consider it a possibility. IF you did, then your labeling of naysayers would probably be cut by around 90% over those you may believe are currently.
The misconception that exists on this board is, that somehow you've convinced yourself that believing in Wave's success equates to demonstrated faith via positive thoughts and words about Wave. Others believe this to be what it is ~ an investment. As an investment, it shouldn't matter how I feel day-to-day, only how Wave performs as a stock.
Admittedly, Wave has performed badly as a stock for several years, yet it has also made some very good progress getting its vision adopted, and pushed by some very large companies. Admittedly, we have heard from many on this board that success and wealth was just around the corner (year-in and year-out) yet no one is chided for this behavior ~ because its positive in thought, and words.
I am not trying to win an argument here. I am merely pointing out that this board has created naysayers of some longs who still hold significant positions in Wave. In my case, I am somewhat conflicted, in that I believe that Wave can still succeed on a tremendous scale ~ but could just as possibly be following a path that perhaps waits too long to make money for itself, and its shareholders. We simply do not know this answer. But in the end, you will never hear someone like me taking up the argument that Wave will not succeed. There is simply no reason for me to do so, because I do not believe they won't, nor do I want them to fail.
I posted ~ not to argue whether you're a better long than I am, or your conviction is stronger than mine is. You can win that if you'd like. I posted merely to point out that the pool of naysayers is not as large as you and others often make it out to be. If it is convenient for you to hold onto this belief, so be it. But just because some may label someone else a naysayer doesn't make it so.
I still believe this community of posters on IHub would be better off if it embraced all WAVX longs, even if they did not hold true to the "positive in thought and words" at all costs mantra. But that's not my call to make.
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