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Re: n4807g post# 103766

Wednesday, 11/09/2022 10:47:49 AM

Wednesday, November 09, 2022 10:47:49 AM

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Minimizing our energy costs that is many times past the price at the pump or the therms or watts on your meter, at an above cost of trillions every year to the American people, and in order for society to just survive to use any energy, completely and fully depends on our abilities to DRAMATICALY reduce the usage and demand side of oil and gas.

The main reliability of o&g is that all the extra costs of its' usage will continue to grow exponentially and further demise the US and world populations. That's the "failure" that is and will happen more in the future with the continued use of o&g that is in the projections.

These theories have been known and expressed for decades by an overwhelming consensus of science and in every passing year gets proven to become facts. Way to many facts proven to list or even go over in any debate.

Some other facts on how that's not being done;

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/mar/09/facebook-posts/oil-production-bidens-first-year-par-trump/


Oil production in Biden’s first year on par with Trump

-Gas prices soared to an average $4.173 per gallon on March 8, according to AAA, breaking a 2008 record.
-Oil production in the U.S. in President Joe Biden’s first year was on par with 2020 and higher than in two of the four years Trump was president.
-Increased consumer demand, inflation and the war in Ukraine are among the factors in the rising price at the pump, experts say.


That same source will give you under search about pipelines, net LOSS of jobs, more importing and exporting of product, and more foreign interests and profits with certain pipelines. But many other factual sources besides this one, but one example;
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/28/jake-laturner/keystone-wouldnt-simply-offset-oil-us-imports-russ/

Oil production has only been increasing with more permits given under Biden and projected to continue increasing.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

Yes, under Biden administration, there has been a lot more focus and money on other means of energy, including nuclear, wind, water, thermal, recovery, and storage in the US. This is all at the irritation from the New GOP who get paid by the fossil fuel industry that want a "blank check" drawn on our environment and on our dime (Dems have got paid also, but by far most of money goes to GOP). The "streamlining" of the permitting process that they talk about is only that "blank check" creating exuberant costs to society.

Even though Biden's administration has done more than any other administration, it isn't even close to enough. It doesn't really cover our (all of society) responsibilities waste in energy and material created from fossil fuels and should only be using what we need and need what we use. A necessity in decreasing demand and usage of fossil fuels and minimizing some of the costs we have looking forward.

Examples (not an inclusive list by far):
https://www.energy.gov/eere/listings/eere-news-releases

One other note on your lies assessment when comparing between different parties or politicians, you have to include the comparisons of magnitude and severity of consequences of those lies perpetrated. That comparison is the difference between night and day.

Also Russia has a system of big o&g production and the same misinformation campaign and control mongering like the New GOP has only more experienced and expert at it. The New GOP is getting better at it for sure, but how's it working out for the Russian people and their freedoms and economics. Copying Putin's methods over here won't get any better results for the American people.

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