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Re: fourcloze post# 11139

Friday, 12/04/2020 9:07:17 AM

Friday, December 04, 2020 9:07:17 AM

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Seems like my innocuous question got you pretty fired up.

IIRC there was a whole lot of hysteria here in the US about vaping and unintended side effects of doing it. My understanding is that a lot of that fall out was attributed to basement brand or self made concoctions rather than bonafide brands. We likely wouldn't have the PMTA process if the ENDS market didn't explode into an unregulated cesspool where anyone could throw some stuff together and call it e-juice.

Since your talking about studies though - I'm sure you are aware that correlation is not the same as causation/attribution. Further on the topic of scientific studies...... You can make a dataset suggest just about any outcome if you structure it correctly, which you alluded to in your response. The firms that do this type of work are part of the "product defense" industry.

Their sole objective is to produce studies that introduce doubt into the conversation. This doubt provides ammo for the companies or industries to lobby against regulations because "the science isn't settled yet." This has been seen time and time again with various industries such as tobacco (cigs are good for you), fossil fuels (global warming doesn't exist), sugar (low fat diets are the key to health), chemical manufacturing (Teflon (PFAS/Forever chemicals) are magical and there are no issues with them).

As you also alluded to - Coke and Coffee could be bad for you. As with anything though - "The dose makes the poison" which is why we have LD50. Numerous people die every year due to overexposure to dihydrogen monoxide.
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