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LGL, Like I had said once before, Yes, I did speak to him
once a couple weeks ago, we only covered this and that,
he did 90% of the talking, what I got out of it mostly
is that he's not in a real great hurry on pumping the stock,
more focused on business and he has a accounting background,
But I'm not on a daily / weekly / monthly call list there,
so you can try, I just looked up his number right here on the web page.
about all I got.
MC
Again,
Don't expect any volume until they start putting out Press Releases via the Newswire, etc and get a PR Dept or Person
in place, this info is only going to people who have already bought or sold and won't create anything but an ocassional
local dropping a grand or two in here as in last week.
Also if K is correct, then maybe it should stay where it is,
or if they're building a company before kicking off the
Public PR side, so be it and good for them,
everything is speculation at this point except the Financials
and the verifaction of shipping for the Apparel, at least in my
opinion and this much I believe I'm correct in.
MC
My advise, just pull up a chair, set back and watch
Either it works or doesn't
We.' Re not going to change anything
Ps. Pass the popcorn
Trader, agree, all these dtities about
Them being crooks, right or wrong, why
Are they then not dumping ?
And if Peter was there, he sure knows how
Let me tell you what else you can do, not in 5-10 years but
As soon as you're ready now
Communicate with Investors, present your Business Plans ,
Do Q&A's, etc, etc
Expose DKGR to the outside world
I can also almost guarantee you that Gene is aware of this
MC
Metal, did't say it was a good idea, just saying that's
my guess that it will happen, good or bad
Lurch, Hi Back,
I see your point and hope you get your way and I'm wrong.
But let's say this is all on the up and up and that
these guys are rolling companies in that are going to
create numbers/sales and also Mr. K continues to grow,
My question is why would someone roll their company into
DKGR if not for a monetary reason? And if that's the case
how would we attrack / pay them?
how I came up to what I think will happen, but don't know
Also, if you and I do get our shares up to a good value,
would you be excited about investing in another company with 4.5 billion shares out there? Not me.
This Gene guy's background if I understand correctly is
accounting, and if that's the case I would assume he has
the numbers already figured out on what he plans to do.
Just my thinking
but I like your approach more.
MC
Lurch, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they say No R/S at this time or something like that?
and if it happened, why would we go back to 0001
If assets and cash were say $15m with 4.5 Billion shares at 0001
do you think at $15m with 4.5m shares (after a R/S) out there it would be 0001?
And at 4.5m shares out there, don't you think it will be easier
to get people to want to buy shares?
My guess is if there is a R/S then the Preferred Shares will be delt with at the same time,
that's just my guess, what the heck do I know,
MC
K,
I think the key word is "Always" which I think you should have said Generally,
We'll see, and I would assume the companies they threw in there will get some stock, my guess is that's where the Preferred Shares will go.... you don't just throw your company and assets in for nothing,
but if they have (and should)a 1 year restriction on
them, then investors should have great window and I would
assume the other companies will perform to raise their stock
value when thiers become unrestricted.
Been there b4
If they did a RS and adjust it to the value of the
Assets and grow, how is that worst than setting
at 0001 where we are now ?we are setting at zip now
And if they do but we grow b4 a RS are we not better off?
Adding sharecount which is already out of sight would not be a good thing at all
LGL, Here's something to think about...
Yes I guess anyone could put up a web page and copy Artists
there, but why would they do that? To increase PPS? Yes possible, but doubtful if you're not peddling shares...
but I was just looking at their site again and...
They also have advertisers on there...
fOR example...
Fios (Verizon)
Hyundai
Thats's a big names
How do you get that with a phony web page,
I doubt those companies will do thier ad's
just anywhwere
and the web page is not like the DKGR one,
It's very professional
He may be on to something here,
hope so
MC
Email IR and ask them?
Diehard2,
I anticipate next Fins to be good, but I think
the one after this one may be where we really
start to get impressed and start moving,
what's that Feb?
Just my guessing
MC
V .. I think we all want to know the bottom line, some have
made up their mind based on past DKGR failures or scams or
However one wants to define,
I see it today as a shell that either they're rolling a lot of
Assets and potentials into and it makes sense.. Or
It's just more of the same, but I don't
see share dumping as b4
And good Fins numbers I never have seen
before and
They're starting to be a bit more transparent
So don't know, I'm more of a glass half full type
Of person, so I guess we will find out b4 too long
For me, worth the wait
Mc
V, hard to say, I liked that 55 Chevy he has if you're buying
Lots of money in apps if one has the right one
Trader, It does look like they're building something,
and the focus does not seem to be much on Share Price....at this time
Build the Business and the Share Price will come, that must be the thinking, I mean, the only people seeing these web releases now are the ones already here and we've already either bought or sold, so I wouldn't expect much from just the web releases.
Not like the old days when we focused on PPS and not on the biz at hand, this could actually be big,
I hope that .08 comes pre-split.
MC
LGL agree and somewhat disagree.. As far a few
Of the people here, I think they will come around
If the company is proven to be real, transparent
And aldo if that happens then what is going to happen to
The extra shares that could be a deal killer even
If everything else go's well..,,
Also from time to time a couple of them produce some
Really good DD
My point is it's not up to the Investors at this point it's up to
The company to
Produce the goods, get some IR going and if that checks out
News to more than just the few people here seeing and saying the
Same things over and over
If they have it, it will work, otherwise it won't
The board posters are not going to make a difference
and are not the reason we're at 0001
And if real which I hope it is, potential
And Mr. k's numbers looking great
LGL, Excuse me, You said $50 a case,
I'm way off base here,
Please someone, delete my quote
12 bottles in a case, right?
so $120 a case or you have it at $4.16 a bottle taht would be $50
would guess your closer then me??
Anyway.....
MC
LGL, You could be right, but I would think your numbers are high
even at $15 a bottle that what $360 and most likely Newby / Volume Discount, so maybe $10 a bottle.. or less????
Of course, I have no idea if it's high end wine or low end wine,
prices can really vary, so this is just a shot in the dark,
But if you're numbers are even 1/2 right by May, you're Golden in my book.
MC
Vegas .. So what you just said from way back is if we
Had done good DD on Clayton he wouldn't have passed?
You just made my point, we need to do all the DD we can on these guys
Hopefully good backgrounds, if not a great Red Flag
Thank you thank you
And Clay buying Grey Goose, Bad, Bad, Bad
We' ll have to find out if these guys even drink Grey Goose
10 years and 3 crews later
MC
Launch...
I believe with his set-up it's perfect to do a Q&A from there
when they're ready, I know that he now knows this too,
If / when this ever happens, one of the many questions I would like to ask is why he is involved in DKGR... What is his goal, what does he want to get out of it and why,
One thing I have learned about being in these Penney Stocks all these years is to learn and know about who is behind the company,
thier history, integrity, etc.
I was in one right after katrina that I rode up to $750+k, stayed in it way too long and by the time I found out how much they diluted it came out the Owner and his Officers had met in prision. I finally bailed with $80k
Point is if anyone can find good background on Gene, Ken or whoever I think it would be a plus, if they're stand up guys
it sure would better our chances.
I thought seeing this live feed was at least a step in the right direction and opened up that closed door just a bit.... Which Investors do we have in NM that can run a field trip?
MC
Just, think on one hand you may be right, in fact odds are you are
But on the other hand Mr K keeps posting good numbers,
The new guy ??
I just hope they do really have something and are
Trying to build something before worrying about the PPS
I always thought if you got a few companies together
On a Penney stock that banded together and
Made numbers and sales everyone would win, the
Investors, the companies that rolled in together
Etc,
And yes if you can build it B4 trying to milk investors
It's the right to do it then that's the way it should be done
Are these guys doing this?? Don't know, but hope so
And when everything was run by Mr K we had everything
Current as it should be, but no PR, and now.. Well not of either,
Thought we would get someone in PR arena, not seen that
So just don't know, scam or future ? We just don't really know
Mc
Just, don't ask me IDK, I'm no Insider
So these guys are either liars / Crooks
Or we are in a really good place
Scary
V.. To answer. Hope / but very guarded
Always wanted to be in a penny stock with real
Numbers and Future Potentials, real products
But after the last two, loosing stomach for it
These guys, again. Hope (which usually costs you if you go on that)
Either way,
It looks like they're really not trying to sell
shares at this point, versus positioning to do so
in the future, at least that's my guess
Hopefully they come out of the closet and have a
open Investor Q&A before too long,
they could use the radio station to do that
and maybe we could get some clairty
MC
So if I connect the dots....
Order / Drink enough of the wine
dial into the radio show
and it will take me to the moon?
MC
I agree, we need something that we can see / feel / touch, versus
Wizzard of OZ and who's behind the curtin.
On the other hand, before we got upset because of all the pumping and share selling and no sales and fins were zip,
now we're just the oppisite,
Go figure,
Of course, no one is seeing this but the people already here
and yes, they may be setting on shares that need to ripe before they can do anything with them, just a guess,
so why not build what you can in the mean time?
LGL .. .08 cents? Ok that would be nice but can you tell me how we're going to get there!
And how confident are you in these people and how
Well do you know them?
Is it ok to ask you these questions?
Do you feel comfortable answering them? ?
Vegas, Why ask my,
I have posted more than once IDK (means I don't know)
I stated I would advise from making purchases until
we can see or if we ever see if this is real or just bs
I also said if anything happens I don't think thik it will
for awhile and that I have suspended buying more at this point.
I also think Just had a good post in that possibly their shares are frozen for that one year period and we'll see something after that (real or just pump) IDK, but that theory could make sense
or they're taking the time to build something,
I suggested to them they come out more in the public and
do a Q&A
I think if we could find out more about the new people it would say a lot about thepresent and future,
If it is a scam then I would not think that they have a solid background, etc, but just don't know,
right now it seems to only be providing a form of entertainment
MC
Vegas don't have a answer, you could be right
Or not, idk have a lot of the same questions
But foes seem like a lot of dumping like B4
Just don't know
I'm not jumping out there to buy more or saying
Anyway else should
Just going to wait and see
Vegas, you're guess is as good as mine, I did break down and
Call the new guy, had a very long conversation, I tried
Pointing him in the right directions
Summary, he said Mr' K's business doing good and
The others ones lining up really well.. No NBA thing
In works... They sound pretty inexperienced, guess
His background is acctg
Sounds like he wants to build everything up
Before a lot of focus on shares and prices
As far as investors, nothing more than web updates for awhile, and that they are not
Selling any shares at this time, yada, yada,
So think it may be some time to get excited about
Anything
Over / Out
Trader, Not sure what you are seeing that
I'm not, so far I would say hold off on any
buying unless you know something that I don't
for the DD I tried i does not look great
it can't be true just because we want it to be
the ball is in their court to prove their claims,
I would advise holding off on any buying unless they
can prove what they're saying at this point
MC
Trader and if you see this we should talk
Got a serious Red Flag MC
Vegas, for the record, I have no clue
As far as I know this could be exactly as so many say, a scam
When I really want to Know, I go outside and flip a coin
I'm not talking to anyone there, in the past(s) that's
Been my undoing, so real or fraud? If you want to
Seriously ask me and I will find a coin and flip it
About all I got
V good Tommie and if anyone asks I will tell them
Because Vegas said do ... Thx. Lol
V, No, actually I have no faith in the Weed,
only minor in the Vino
as for the rest,
and of course if for real, like I keep saying
I hae no idea, except for the Fins, if for real
we're eventually in for a good ride, even you
have to admitt that,
if false, then they crossed the line,
and they should be locked up
again, pretty easy
MC
Vegas, Simple answer,
If it is one, Then anyone buying new shares (like myself)
is screwed and anybody with old / previous shares were already screwed, except they could sell at 0001 and salvage what ever that brings.
And what if it's not?
over $10m in sales and even with all these shares... what
over 1/2 cent in Value, and with the newer sales may be pushing double that
Of course, it may be as many say, just a Fraud to Keep a ATM rolling, and if it is, they sure need to learn how to punp it, because they're not, weird don't you think?
And even if these are real sales and they're building a real company, then there's the problem of all those Preferred / Convewrtiable Shares that could sink us all over again (assuming we ever took off).
What I would propose... Let's say Mr. K has 2B convertable (and who knows who else), I would try and make a deal of let's say retire 1/2 of them right off the bat, and then let the price go's to .001, now retire 1/2 of that remaining,leaves him 500m?
Now let's say we hit .002, retire another 1/2 and we're down to 250m share, let him sell at that poing but not below .002 so he can't drive it back down, at .002 that's 1/2m dollars if he sold everything, or he could hold until it hits whatever,
If he waited until 2 cents... what $5m?
It's the only way I could see it work, if it ever does work and that's if the numbers we're seeing are real numbers and growing...
Now let someone else figure out how to reduce the common without a R/S
MC