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You are missing the point.
((and if Paivis's business plan(not JPHC or APO) is pushed back a few months or a year))
I dont see PAVC business plan being pushed back, I see it changing constantly, with no explanations as to what happend to the past strategies and promises that are now a different set of strategies and promises.
What company may that be? From the brink of bankruptcy to a top 10 GLOBAL company. Impressive. May I ask the name of this company? If you prefer to not say, I understand.
You mention more then once that it is one of the top 10 companies in the world, so it would be easy enough to look at the top 10 and then see which was near bankruptcy before hitting the bigtime.
IMO however, comparing PAVC to a company that is in the top 10 GLOBALLY, is like comparing apples to hand grenades.
What you describe is an anomally. Not many companies go from near bankrptcy to top 10 global status and certainly not many PS or OTC companies. The fact is, instead of comparing apples to hand grenades, PAVC should be compared with other PS and OTC companies and not the MSFT's and GOOG's of the world.
That being said, far more PS and OTC's fail then succeed and by a very wide margin.
That is interesting. Great to see they have been buying but them saying they are withdrawing them from the open market seems kind of pumpy.
Yes, I am aware by doing that, those shares cannot be shorted, but that is not going to stop any short attack. So why else say they are putting them in cert form and pulling them from the open market?
Surely they plan to sell them one day and that amount pulled, will not stop any shorts, legal or illegal ones. So why do that?
And with all of the many corporate changes that are coming, it makes even less sense to put them in cert form. More headaches to have certs sent back and reissued when a corporate change requires it and we certainly are looking at several things that will result in the certs needing to be sent in and exchanged for whatever, after these corporate changes.
Thanks PQL. Could be just the system. Slow to process. Having dealt with city, state and fed gov't, I am aware how some things get quite convoluted.
Very possibly they have applied and heck, could even have been granted a permit, and we may not see it for 2 years ;>)
I would assume that all of the many other permits you discussed show that this isn't just some sham.
It is still a PS (always will be a pink sheet until actual uplisting) in my eyes and I do wish I knew more about how PHGI and all of the companies they have, will be uplisted and etc and in what manner and how PHGI shareholders are effected. But, I guess all one can do is wait and we eventually will see.
Thanks and keep us informed of the status of the ADEM situation. Knowing they did indeed file and have been granted a permit would be excellent.
PQL,
Did PHGI apply for or get a permit from ADEM?
If yes, why is there no record of it?
If no, WHY NOT ??
TIA/PR
Well, it dropped 10% as soon as the news hit.
((You'll notice how it didn't nudge the PPS.))
Although I would expect it to rebound.
The one good hope for this stock is we know the company will be diluting, so it would be in their best interest to get the PPS up, not down. But at the same time, they can simply dilute more to get the same dollar amount. No big deal and these PS and OTC's do it all the time. If PPS drops 50% they simply print and dump 50% more paper.
Very common.
Did I call PAVC a POS? Not a big deal either way as if I did, that is my opinion after all and if I didnt't, I still am of the opinion they are a POS company ;>)
Nope, I do not hold any restricted shares.
My opinion of Bauer ?
I think he is an incompetant snake in the grass imo, and I would not trust him with a dime of my money.
If others see things differently then by all means, buy as much PAVC as you can.
Interesting. I was hoping to see somebody reply to this with a positive answer by now. There are some here who are in constant touch with Mr. Bebee. This seems to be a serious thing that should be addressed.
Why has it not been addressed? I also did a search and found nothing. Can anybody verify what is going on with this? Did they apply for a permit? If so, why is there no record of it?
((The Alabama Department of Environmental Management has a website with a search engine which provides no hits for "perihelion"
http://www.adem.state.al.us/search.htm
From what I can tell, Perihelion has not yet received a permit by ADEM for a biodiesel refinery (or even applied for one?????)
Perhaps someone could provide a link that could indicate what I am missing.
Thanks.))
IMO, I would not start counting revenue or profits quite yet.
PAVC has a long history of putting out PR's and in almost every case they claim a drastic increase in revenue is expected.
As we have seen, them saying they EXPECT an increase does not mean it will happen. Their filings with the SEC sure do not show that they have been correct in their expectations.
This company has been claiming many deals will raise revenue and they have even used the word PROFIT as well. They have claimed this on almost every deal they announce.
Has anybody seen a drastic rise in revenue, let alone profits?
But it still does not stop them from PR'ing such things.
PAVC reminds me of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. This company repeatedly claims deals will do this that or the other, yet it never happens.
The latest filing was a joke, imo. All investors talked about was that they expected to see great things and progress in this last filing. Yet instead they showed they didnt even have enough cash to buy a used Honda Civic and said to expect dilution and likely a lot of dilution. Did we see the revenues in the filing that PAVC pr'd we should expect to see? No. So many pr's claiming that this will increase revenues by xxxxx dollars. With all of the PR's claiming that all of these different things will bring in XXXXX of revenue, where is it??
Did any of their many deals PR'd to bring in huge revenue actually bring in the huge revenue they said to expect? No. But we are to believe it this time?
As I said, like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. I lost count of the number of times company has said to expect a large jump in revenue, only to not see it actually happen.
Tax, you are correct as well. This company is constantly changing their Business Strategy. Each time they change, it leaves one wondering what happened to all the past strategies that were promised to bring in the bucks to PAVC.
I saw another poster question you concerning the ever changing strategies of this company and I see you gave a very good and factual reply that the other poster did not answer to. You are also correct in that while many were predicting $2 - $5 PPS predictions, you and a few others, including me, said .10 was more likely then the dollars many were predicting.
It is now factual as to where the PPS went and who was more accurate in their PPS predictions. Yet even now, many of the same people that said this was going up and said this repeatedly as the PPS kept falling are still saying what a great company this is and how high the PPS will go.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I myself stop predicting if I am proven wrong so many times.
If some wish to only cheer and jiggle their POM POM's as this keeps heading down, that is their right. I myself can only hope that people do proper DD and do not get caught up in the jiggling of the pom pom's as pavc appears to be in a death spiral and has been the whole time the pom pom's have been jiggled.
My prediction is simple. Major and I do mean major dilution and/or (probably both imo) a shammy deal with another shammy company they paint to look very rosey but will be anything but rosey as far as making gains on holding the stock.
The lack of buying interest shows not many believe PAVC will provide gains, even at this very low level. I could care less about online buying restrictions. There are many, many stocks brokers will not allow online buying for. But many of these stocks still move up. If you really want to buy PAVC, what is the big deal in a 3 minute call to your broker? The fact is, if people wanted to buy PAVC they can. Very easily. The fact they are not is very telling imo.
All In My Opinion.
I would agree. MACRO was touted as the future of this company. Yet while it was touted as the future of this company and as JPHC assured everybody that MACRO would be sold/merged with a large player in VOIP, they knew of the legal issues at the same time they were touting it as the future of the company.
Years later and people have already found WALDO, yet MACRO is where?
But, no surprise to me that company has not explained. That is not their strong point imo. They like to put out PR's saying how great this that and the other will be, but when this that and the other never happens or turns out very bad, company is not very eager to explain anything.
This is something being looked at. For JPHC to tout MACRO as they did, claiming it was going to be sold/merged to a real player in VOIP, when they knew of the issues with MACRO at that time and then they did this deal with APO, who is NOT a player in VOIP, and MACRO is now not part of the picture and no word from the company in 2 years concerning MACRO has caught the attention of many.
((Pouty- As far as I can see. There is no MACRO; there is only Trucall and, where the hell is Trucall now and do they have a switching facility. I agree with you. Where is this thing going and what ever happened to MACRO COMMUNICATIONS! They left their former office space with no forwarding, no disclosures in the filings regarding any of it. The website looking dead etc. I believe we need an explanation and clarification on these matters. It's VERY disconcerting. P))
I think that is the ticket right now.
show me the money
Many PS and OTC companies promise the world but never deliver.
PHGI seemingly has many fires burning, but until people see results, I think they are waiting to see if the promises start to come to fruition.
If they do follow thru and indeed show they are legit, I think then people will climb aboard.
But until JB shows us the money, people will be leary.
There are just far too many unknowns at this point. I can't even keep track of what businesses PHGI supposedly has or how they plan to uplist all of them and what effect it will have on current PHGI stock.
The road is done. Why build a road that leads to nothing?
So we must assume they didnt build this road just for kicks. It must lead to something.
Yet down again on this very positive news?
Did anybody see the several 25,000 share blocks that went thru right at the same time, and naturally at the lows of .017?
Looks to me like maybe the company or insiders were buying. How do they always get to buy cheaper then us normal folk? Nobody will fill a buy order for me at .017.
Has anybody else noticed that when companies or insiders announce their intent to buy, common sense says that is good news and should cause an up move in the stock. Yet how many times have we witnessed stocks going down to accomodate the buying at lower prices for insiders or companies in general?
Insiders already get filthy rich at shareholders expense. Yet they also get to buy cheaper and influence the PPS to help them buy lower?
This is not my imagination. I have seen it far too many times. I have seen insiders and companies able to buy lower while it is rare that we can get filled at the same lower price as them.
This company has way too much good news for it not to be moving up. There is either something not kosher going on or maybe people are just not touching this until they see real results and what happens with all of these many companies under the PHGI umbrella, the canadian listing and the uplisting and etc.
Could that be the problem? People are simply waiting until the company proves they are for real? Without knowing any details on what will happen to our PHGI shares, as well as everything else promised to PHGI shareholders, maybe people are waiting to see how they go about uplisting, and making sure everything is legit and kosher before touching this.
I have no idea really, but it makes no sense to me that a company can put out repeated good news and the price never budges. There are 100% shams out there that go up and go up a lot. Yet we supposedly have a real company and not a sham, yet the PPS will not go up. Maybe PHGI should PR some bad news and maybe that will get this over .05 - My only concern is the PPS and if good news wont bring it up, maybe bad news will.
My only comment will be very brief.
MACRO was supposed to be the bread and butter for this company. It was supposed to turn the company in to a high profit company competing with the big guns in a highly attractive and growing sector.
However, I do not expect the company to ever realize a penny in profit from MACRO and it might possibly cost the company a lot of money when all is said and done.
The reasons are right there in your DD if you wish to find them.
GLTA/PR
What does this news have to do with SMSI?
TIA/PR
This is a dog with fleas, imo.
If you think it is a good investment, more power to you. Buy some more and keep buying.
IMO, this is an overbloated, heavily diluted sham.
IMO, if you invest in this company, you likely will lose your entire investment.
IMO, it is best to stay away from this stock.
Looks like a 100% total sham, IMO
Why would this go sub penny if it is such a great company with great deals in the works and massive increases in revenue projected by the company after the DPC deal is complete with the company claiming even more deals are in the works as well?
For 2 years I have been hearing what a great company and investment this is. Is it no longer a great company and investment?
What has changed to take it from being a great company and investment to now where it may go sub penny?
My guess is this will pop. Company needs to sell shares to raise capital so I assume they will do whatever they can to try to get the PPS up so they get more money per share when they dilute.
Of course, they could simply increase the AS and dilute even more to get the same amount of money. IE, the PPS could get cut by 50% and they simply have to print twice the paper to get the same dollar amount. Not a big deal for an OTC to do. They do it everyday.
((wow, 9 cents. down to sub penny soon.))
He certainly inherited a huge mess and so far has done a good job of cleaning it up.
Still need to see end results that are good. That is all that matters.
Lets hope JB can pull it off. If he does, awesome. If he doesn't, I will not be surprised. As I said before, it is what it is. Right now it is a pink sheet gamble, nothing more.
If JB is succesful, then maybe one day it will be an actual investment with growing revenues and profits and not a gamble.
Not many PS stocks make it to that level so the odds are against PHGI. But if anybody can do it, hopefully it is JB!
I agree. JB's past success is on topic but his past failures are not on topic, makes no sense at all to me.
If that is the case, it appears as though people only want the good to be heard while hiding the bad.
IMO, both his past success and failures should be looked at and both should be on topic as both are dealing with the past success and failures of the man we are currently hoping will bring success to PHGI.
I see another good PR today. That is a very legit engineering firm by the way. I cant see them getting involved if PHGI wasn't for real. An excellent sign imo.
The bad sign is a 10% drop on such good looking news.
If you did thorough DD on this company right now, would you want to buy the stock and think it is a good investment?
I wouldn't and to be honest I don't know how anybody could look in depth at this company and think it is anything more then a longshot gamble. But some love PAVC and it's future prospects and that is their right. But you are correct imo. The bulk of the investing community has no interest in pavc as an investement and even the gamblers are staying away. I also don't think this company will ever do anything to make investors want to buy the stock imo.
((I think the main reason the PPS has fallen is that very, very few investors are buying this stock. There's almost no demand, or very little))
Since nobody seems to care about what happened to MACRO, which was to be the bread and butter for this company, here is some info. Looks like the company owes a huge boatload of money, some at very high interest rates for lost or settled lawsuits. Company has paid very little and interest is still acruing.
Also, note the dates. IMO, company was very dishonest in pumping up MACRO when the legal issues were present as they pumped MACRO and the JPHC/APO deal up bigtime. To say many companies were bidding on macro and whoever they sell to/merge with will immediately be a player in VOIP and huge revenues were to be expected as soon as merger was complete, when they knew of these legal issues, does not paint a picture of honesty from managment. After the MACRO lies, they continued with many more lies, including the RS that they were not going to do all the way to them blaming brokers when it was their very own TA that was holding things up. After blaming the brokers for a long time, they finally admitted that the TA had ALL INFO since the beginning and they knew it all the time. Yet they blamed the brokers until admitting it was a problem with their TA who they filed suit against. The odd thing is, there has been no more news concerning them going after the TA, which makes me wonder if this whole thing wasnt supposed to work exactly as they did it. Company covers it's butt by first blaming brokers then admitting it is their own TA. They switch TA's and file suit against old TA, but not a word since. Did insiders or the old TA cash in on ANY of this? My guess would be YES. Where is the old TA? Sitting on a beach somewhere laughing his butt off or in jail? He is not in jail, that much I know.
From the companies filing :
((ITEM 3. LEGAL PROCEEDINGS.
Cingular Wireless, LLC has obtained a consent judgment against Macro Communications, Inc., one of our subsidiaries, in the Superior Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, File No.: 05C-15642-3. The consent judgment was entered into on June 6, 2006 for the principal amount of $657,313.35, plus accrued interest due since January 1, 2005 of $147,895.50. This consent judgment is accruing interest at rate of 8% per annum. During the 2006 fiscal year, the Company has paid a total of $85,000 against this consent judgment.
During fiscal year 2006, the Company’s subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. was the subject of three separate but related collection suits filed by three former disgruntled consultants of the company.Henderson v. Macro Communications, Inc. Superior Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, File No.: 06-C-02764-1 was commenced March 14, 2006 and a full and final settlement agreement was entered into on December 1, 2006 providing for Macro Communications to pay overdue consulting compensation to Mr. Henderson in the amount of $60,000. The matter was fully resolved as of December 4, 2006.
Jenkins v. Macro Communications, Inc. Superior Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, File No.: 06-C-03746-S5 was commenced March 14, 2006 and a full and final settlement agreement was entered shortly after the suit was filed. Of the total amount of the settlement amount of $23,788.70, we paid $5,000 on June 6, 2006 and we believe the balance of the settlement amount will be paid within 30 days from the date of this report.
Wilkie v. Macro Communications, Inc. Superior Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, File No.: 06-C-02761-S3. A full and final settlement agreement was entered into on May, 15, 2006 in this case for the sum of $43,250 representing overdue consulting compensation, and upon full payment, the matter was fully resolved as of November 17, 2006.
iBasis, Inc. v. Macro Communications, Inc., Superior Court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, File No.: 06A-09136-8. iBasis, Inc. was a claim filed in Suffolk Superior Trial Court of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, File No.: SUCV2004-04047-C, wherein a default judgment was entered against Macro Communications on September, 20, 2006 for the sum of $192,022.47 principal and 1.5% per month interest accruing as of September 30,2003, the sum of $5,351.99 principal and 1.5% per month interest accruing as of August 31, 2003, and costs of $514.05. This judgment remains unpaid, and most recently iBasis, Inc. has sought to domesticate its Massachusetts judgment in the above-reference case filed against Marcro Communications in Gwinnett County Superior Court, State of Georgia.
On February 9, 2007, another former consultant of Macro Communications that was terminated, Matthew McCarthy, filed suit against Macro Communications in McCarthy v. Macro Communications, Inc., et al., State Court of Dekalb County, Georgia, File No.: 07A62410-7. Matt McCarthy has alleged claims in relation to a master sales agreement for the sale of international carrier services and a violation of non-disclosure / non-circumvent agreement entered on July 1, 2004 and July 2, 2004, respectively. Macro Communications has denied any and all claims or liabilities alleged by Mr. McCarthy and is preparing to vigorously defend that action and to seek appropriate counter relief from Mr. McCarthy for damages he has caused to the company.
Lastly, On February, 15, 2007 the Company filed a complaint against John J. Donnelly and Executive Transfer & Registrar Inc. (“Executive Registrar”) in Colorado state court. The Company filed the lawsuit to obtain a restraining order to compel Executive Registrar as required by rules and procedures mandated by the Securities and Exchange Commission, to transfer the Company’s stock books and records to be transferred to the Company’s newly appointed stock transfer agent and compel Executive Registrar to file it’s termination notice with the Depository Trust Company as required by the Securities and Exchange Commission. It is also our intention to seek monetary damages, including attorneys’ fees, costs of suit and punitive damages against both Mr. Donnelly and Executive Transfer for their unwarranted and tortious interference with the Company’s stock transfer and shareholder records.))
Thanks, so nothing has changed?
I knew the original deal was an aquisition but a poster yesterday I had never seen before posted news was coming about the MERGER. So, I looked at the newswires but saw nothing that indicated the the deal had changed.
Why did the other poster call it a merger? Just a typo I assume? Also, how does he know news is coming and when is this news supposed to come?
Any idea?
By the way Serf, since I know you are a sharp guy and an honest one who calls it as he sees it, good or bad, did you ever find the answer to my question :
What happened to MACRO?
It is odd that either nobody knows or wont post what they know when the answer is in the filings, which would take all of 5 or 10 minutes to find the correct filing that explains what is going on with MACRO.
MACRO was one of the main reasons why everybody invested in JPHC and held thru the deal that made them PAVC. It was supposed to be the bread and butter that was worth a lot and would allow the company to compete with the big guns in the VOIP arena. Yet nobody even mentions MACRO or questions why the company talked MACRO up so much saying prospective buyers were beating each other to death to get hold of MACRO and MACRO would ensure success and great wealth for shareholders.
So I find it curious that nobody knows what happened to MACRO or questions the company about the huge pump on MACRO and why MACRO is no longer a part of the companies equation for success. Most shareholders thought they were getting in cheap on a company with a great product in a huge money making sector with tremendous growth, VOIP. Instead they own shares in a troubled and distressed company with a lot of issues and their business plan does not include anything to do with VOIP and is now more about calling cards, which imo, is not going to earn PAVC a cent in actual profit per share.
But have they officialy changed the terms from an aquisition to a merger?
I realize they can change the terms at any time or bag the entire deal. Have they done this or is still a 100% aquisition of DPC?
I have asked this before but nobody seems to either know the answer or wants to post the answer. What happened to MACRO, which was to be the bread and butter that would allow PAVC to become a bigtime player in VOIP?
For those that know the answer, I understand why, if you are long PAVC, you do not wish to post the answer. For those that don't know but wish to, I'll give a little hint (why a hint is needed is baffling) with the following question :
Has everybody read all the filings?
I would think if one is long, all filings would be read. Yet if all filings were read, everybody would know what is going on with MACRO, but most seem to either not know or dont wish to post the answer.
Is this a typo? Or did the deal change?
If I recall correctly, this was not to be merger with DPC. PAVC was to aquire 100% of DPC for cash and stock.
Did it change from an aquisition to a merger?
With so little cash I don't see how they plan to aquire anything unless they print a boatload of shares. But that would certainly be better then if this has changed to a merger. A merger imo, will just be another shammy way to shaft shareholders, no matter how nice they try to paint it.
They painted the JPHC/APO deal to look very nice and they even tried to paint the RS they lied about as being a good thing.
I think it is safe to say that neither turned out how the company tried to paint it. Total disaster and massive loss of valuation for most everybody, except those lucky enough to get in and out during the 20,000% run up that lasted a couple of weeks before it crumbled.
((THERE WILL BE NEWS REGARDING THE PENDING MERGER.))
Thanks. Good answers and I tend to agree.
You are also 100% correct on how the PS system works. I have had orders sitting to buy at the ask that never got filled while others were getting filled below me.
This happens on many PS stocks.
Thats what I was thinking since it was a fairly large number of shares. I figured it was either a short covering or an insider buy.
JB did state that they have already bought some on the open market and I doubt they are buying small blocks.
But like you said, we really have no way of knowing at this point in time.
According the the letter posted from John to King, he did say that he expects revenue to start rolling in and that that revenue will help them grow and accomplish their goals.
Lets hope this is indeed the case and that we do start seeing revenue coming in and only limited dilution.
You asked :
"how any company could require over thirty billion shares in authorized capital is beyond me."
You must not know AASTROM(sp?). He needs that many shares so he can line his pockets ;>)
Many PS stocks do the massive dilution thing to line the insiders pockets at the expense of shareholders. So far, Mr. Bebee has indicated and showed he is the polar opposite of AASTROM and other PS CEO's. Lets just hope the end result shows this to be true.
Question : Somebody mentioned that the shares the insiders are buying on the open market will be restricted? Is this true? If they are bought on the open market are they not free trading shares they cal sell whenever they want without any restrictions?
Next Question : Somebody mentioned that the insiders buying will be done at the bid. I also saw a rather large trade yesterday at the low of the day. A substantial % below the ask. How do insiders buy on the open market and get to buy cheaper then you or me? If I had placed a buy order at .016 it would not have filled. So how did insiders buy at that price yesterday?
TIA/PR
Maybe he is. Hopefully he is.
Better yet, hopefully his attorney is and and he is concentrating on getting all of these businesses up and running. If he is personaly going to fight the crooks, it will be a full time job. No way can he tackle the crooks and get all of these companies up and running at the same time. That is what his Lawyer is for imo.
I still wish he had never posted on any public message board or blog. That scared away many prospective investors and turned PHGI in to a target for the corrupt crooks. I have spoken to quite a few people that were going to take a shot with PHGI but saw the CEO posting in public and decided to run for the hills instead. Had he never posted publicly, my guess is this would be in the .05 - .10 area by now or higher.
I notice he is not posting in public anymore, but I also notice he reads the MB's on a regular basis. Why? The CEO of all of these many companies does not have better things to do then monitor what MB posters are saying? No offense, but isn't that what his attorney should be doing while he concentrates on the actual businesses? JB is not an attorney. He is a business man with a very good attorney. IMO, JB needs to stop spending so much time reading and monitoring message boards and concentrate on his businesses and let his attorney handle the MB's.
Ha. Good ole AASTROM. Always good for some bad flashbacks ;>)
Has AASTROM ever made a success out of any of his past companies or did he and insiders just line their pockets at shareholders expense?
AASTROM was a crook imo. I think Mr. Bebee is far from being in that category. But, it is up to him and PHGI to prove it. Talk means nothing. Pr's mean nothing. PPS and valuation mean everything. As of right now this is still a Pink Sheet that needs to prove itself. Hopefully they do just that, but with PS's, ya never know.
I see you mention .20
In looking further this was as high as the .50 area at one point. Is that accurate? If so, a fall from .50 to .02 is pretty severe. Maybe it is finding a bottom as it has held up in this range for a while now. You would think it would be far higher with all the PR's, but at least it isn't tanking anymore and is holding the .02 area.
If Mr. Bebee can accomplish all his goals, .02 may seem very cheap one day. If he doesnt, .02 may be a number people wish they had bailed at because if he doesnt come thru, this should crumble. Everything is in JB's hands. UP or down, it is 100% in JB's hands either way.
I am skeptical as well but my only agenda is seeking and knowing the truth and making money. Although skeptical, I do not like the bashers spreading false information. I want the truth. The truth is not what some have posted claiming that they are retiring shares because they diluted this to death. It is common knowledge that PHGI inherited a large mess from AASTROM. The shares being retired were not issued by PHGI. They are left overs from the AASTROM mess thet JB is cleaning up.
I am concerned about further dilution as I dont see cash rolling in which means they likely will have to use shares as currency. So even with the retiring of all of these shares, I suspect many will be reissued. Company stated in PR that these shares may be reissued. Unless they have cash coming in, how else will they move forward if they don't dilute?
((Bearish no doubt. I was a skeptic from when it was trading near .20, and nothing has changed my mind. This last PR just gives me an Astrom flashback... that's all.))
No problem. YOU DA MAN! (or you da Lady? Dudette is female I assume?)
It is a great site. Have checked it out before and signed the petition.
I am 100% FOR going after and jailing the currupt manipulators.
Naked shorting is a very serious problem and it harms many people and companies.
That is why I keep asking why Mr. Bebee said they were going after these crooks to now saying they are not.
Thanks again/PR.
Apology accepted. I am not here to bicker with you or anybody else.
Did you read my post? Did you see me say I have not spoken to him recently?
OK then.
What are the message boards for if posters cannot post opinions or ask questions? Maybe somebody knows something I don't. Whether good or bad, I may not know about it or have heard it yet. Once I do, I can verify by doing my own DD.
If I ask a question more then once it is likely because nobody answered or gave their opinion when I first posted.
I myself find it curious when certain questions or opinions go unanswered or are ignored considering how many people read each post, while other things are never ignored.
Is that a fair enough explanation for you?
Please do not confuse me with a short or a basher. Nor should you consider me a cheerleader. I am skeptical about certain things and only seek truthful and honest answers. There is no other agenda here.
((My apologies to you, Was not meant to be a torment to you nor a negative statement, However it does bring out a curious point, “You have talked to Mr. Beebe several times” So why do you ask the same questions over and over in a public forum? What are you trying to accomplish? You’re posting for a reason, I would assume… But yet you’re asking questions that no one but Mr. Beebe can answer to an open forum.. ))
Received your other PM. I agree 100%.
Thanks for the link.
What the heck are you talking about? I baited you?
I got a PM from another poster. It had nothing to do with you. I cant reply to PM's so I asked him to please explain.
Why you are responding, I have no idea, nor do I know why you think I am somehow baiting you.
As far as any talks I have had with Mr. Bebee, to be honest, I don't recall you telling me to call him, but if you say you did, then I have no reason to doubt you. John himself sent me a PM, which I could not respond to so I made a post here to John, but the moderator deleted it within a minute of it posting.
However, I have spoken to Mr. Bebee several times on the phone. Not in the past few weeks though. What was said or discussed is between he and I. I do not make a habit of discussing anything that was discussed in private, without the other persons consent.
PQL can even verify this as somebody asked for Johns contact number a while ago. I had several numbers and posted the one I used. Turns out that was his personal number that was not supposed to be given out in public, so PQL deleted the post and told me not to post his personal phone number in public.
But yes, I have spoken to Mr. Bebee quite a few times. In the future, I would appreciate it if you would not post to me as you just did claiming I am trying to bait you which is absurd. I did not even post to you. I posted to Gerlac and you responded claiming I am trying to bait you.
No need to be so paranoid. Or maybe you do have the right to be paranoid, but please don't drag me into any of this as I am not here to bait you or anybody else.
Can't respond to your PM.
Call me dumb ;>), but can you explain what that PM means?
I clicked on the link, but don't know what you mean about paying attention to the post by "investors and companies".
Looks like a site on Naked Shorting and I am well aware that Naked Shorting is very real and a serious problem.
But I still don't know what you mean about reading posts by investors and companies or what that has to do with me.
Again, call me dumb, but can you send me another PM and explain in simple ABC's ?
TIA/PR
How are you long, but it wasn't your choice?
((I have become long not by choice.))
Yes, it is odd. The more good news they put out, the less it means as the PPS has not budged on even what seems like the best news possible for a PS stock.
I don't know whats going on with this stock but something just does not seem right. I think it is a bit of a stretch to say it is dropping like a lead balloon, as it has held in this range for a while now. Will this range hold? I don't know. If not, I think this could fall to sub penny very easily. I don't know what it will take to get this to move up. It appears as though the investing world simply does not believe PHGI has anything legitimate.
I'd be willing to bet that if the CEO had never started posting on message boards, all of these PR's of late would have PHGI in the .05 - .10 range by now. However, when prospective investors see a Pink Sheet CEO posting on message boards, followed with repeated rosey PR's that lack critical information, they stay away.
I've never shorted PHGI. In fact, I have never shorted a penny stock. But I can't really blame those that do since most penny stocks go down, not up.
What brokers will even allow the legal shorting of PS and OTC's?
Although I have never shorted a penny stock in my life, I probably should look in to how you legally can short these.
I can't think of a better more sure fire way of getting filthy rich. I have always hated shorts but is this not about making money, legally? Yes.
So how does one legally short a penny stock?
((This just keeps dropping like a lead balloon. The more news the worse it gets. ))
Very True.
GLTA/PR
I think the way it works is the moderator can delete any post they wish. Then, if you feel the post was deleted and should not have been, you can contact the Admin and then they will have the final say if the post stays deleted or gets reposted.
Many might not even be aware a post of theirs was deleted and many are too busy to worry about contacting the site to get a post reinstated.
So although I do agree with you 100%, moderators still get delete happy knowing many will not notice or bother with contacting the admin.
((you call it censored message boards. Admin has the final say if deleted messages stay deleted, or get reinstated...has to do with IHUB TOU rules, not moderator gets to pick and choose rules. If you feel a message has been wrongly removed, you have the right to ask IH Admin to review.))
Yes, quite funny watching people make things up out of thin air and then try to pass of as the truth when the real truth is so easy to see.
I may seem negative at times, but my only agenda is to seek the truth. Not to spread mis-truths or try to harm the company.
I just feel it is best to seek the real truth and not just be a cheerleader because I am long or a basher if I am short (no, I have never shorted PHGI). Too many people only want to be cheerleaders if they are long.
I'm here to make money. Not be a cheerleader or a basher. To make money, the real truth should always be looked at imo.
((it is kind of along the same lines of proof as Crew Distributing does not have tankers and delivers fuel proof...you be the judge.
that proof is from "POOF", pulled out of thin air.))
I posted the same thing yesterday, but my post was deleted within a minute.
As I said yesterday, it IS on topic if you are discussing the past history of the current CEO. Everybody should want to know about his past history of success and failures as it certainly relates to his future, which is PHGI.
The thing that bothers me is I do not like censored message boards as it makes a company look very shammy when the moderator decides what is allowed to be seen and what will be hidden.
I saw no posts deleted. Not a single one when everybody was talking about Mr. Bebee's PAST SUCCESS and in fact it dominated the conversation on this board for a bit. Thats all people wanted to talk about. That PHGI would be a success because of all of Bebee's past succsess. But now the past is considered Off Topic? Why is the past On Topic if it paints a rosey picture but the past is Off Topic if it does not paint a rosey picture?
That makes no sense to me and when I see this type of censorship it makes me ask, WHY? If the company and the CEO is on the up and up, why would positive's be allowed but negatives deleted?
If John Bebee's past success is considered on topic how can his past failures not be on topic?
Why the need to push the positives but hide the negatives if this company is such a sure bet to succeed?
Shouldn't investors want to see both the positives and negatives? Shouldn't we be allowed to?
I have no desire to be long in a stock if only the positives are discussed and the negatives get deleted before anybody can see them. I would think anybody with money invested would feel the same way.
((No sorry not a BAIT.. I will publicly say I dis agree with the Mod on that point. You have a fact that is TRUTHFUL and about the crediability of the CEO and its backed by FACTS I say you should be able to post it.))