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Great to hear. TNKS 4 keeping us informed. I was wondering if anybody had spoken to Mr. Morris of late.
Looks like all is good imo.
You are probably correct. However, as with everytime before I think IMO you will be wrong as to which way this moves.
((Now we move))
May I ask an on topic question?
You have been calling for this to move up repeatedly during it's entire freefalling large % drop and have been proven wrong everytime. Why is this time different?
IF this hits sub penny will you still love the company and predict it is going to rise anyday?
Why would they need to do this? I thought this was moving to the OTC anyday now?
The poster avdave had a GR8 list of unanswered questions that he posted but did not receive any answers to. He got only grief from other posters for him even asking the questions.
I also agree with avdave in that all of the questions he asked should not have to be asked. If the company were truly being transparent, they would have already provided the answers to his many very good questions.
Why R these many questions not being answered? Why should we even have to ask? Nothing is inside or privileged info they need to keep away from competitors. They were GR8 questions that most any shareholder would want to know the answers to and should have the answers to without having to ask.
There must be a reason IMO that bebee is not answering the specific questions avdave asked and IMO it is possibly because shareholders will not like the true answers to those questions. If the answers were something shareholders would like Bebee would provide them. By not providing them it gives the impression we will not like what we hear. IMO of course.
Some posters claimed they were positive that PAVC would get back on track and the main reason most said this was because they really believed in Bauer, have spoken to him and truly believe he was not part of any of the problems that plagued the company and he was the man to solve these issues and get the company back on track.
The last filings and PR(s) all indicated that Bauer was the man.
Suddenly he is gone? I am sure we will get an explanation but if it was something simple it would likely have been disclosed. The fact they did not disclose why he is gone, likely means it is not a good reason IMO. What could Bauer have possibly been involved in for him to be suddenly gone?
I had asked opinions here on whether people thought the insiders could possibly be involved in anything not quite kosher? Dont know if Bauer was, but the sudden departure is interesting.
What now happens to the new biz plan outlined in the latest filings ? After all, Bauer was the guy that was going to make all that stuff happen.
I also find it a bit odd in the timing of this release. Did this not shoot up from the .08 level to the .12/.13 level very recently? And this news was released Friday after the close?
Hmmmm.
So now PAVC is back to having the old JPHC gang in control?
OUCH!
These were the people that destroyed this from the start by telling the whole world that they were selling/merging JPHC and MACRO to a bigtime VOIP player. The deal was done for a guaranteed price and bla bla bla. They were adamant that they would only sell to an established player in VOIP and they said this over and over after the deal was done, but the company name and terms were not yet announced. Only to see that they did NOT sell to an established VOIP player. They sold out to a very troubled APO which had NOTHING to do with VOIP. APO was a failed health care biz that could not pay it's bills, defaulted on loans, stole IP and was being sued and then they sold the company for $1 to get out of the liabilities that hung all over the company.
The people at JPHC knew this the whole time but still misled investors in to thinking MACRO would ONLY go to an established VOIP player. Now these same people are back the helm calling the shots?
Not good IMO. Not good at all.
It will be interesting to see why Bauer is gone ( I expect them to make it seem like it is no big deal and in the best interest of the company and shareholders) and then lets see the touty crap about how the company is moving forward and all of these great things are still happening.
What a total sham IMO. I truly feel for all of the posters who have been screaming very loudly about how great Bauer is and about how they have little worries with him in charge and little worry that pavc will be a lot higher when Bauer gets things rolling. Not a big surprise as the same people that claimed Bauer was a saviour are the same people that have been saying this is going to shoot to the moon as it continually dropped more and more. Egg on the face once. Egg on the face twice. Lots of people with egg on their face right now who keep getting proven wrong.
GLT all shareholders. I think IMO that luck is all this company has to hinge it's future hopes on right now.
Possibly the new management will duplicate what they did with JPHC with some pumpy shammy deals soon to be announced? My guess is that is the plan IMO.
DITTO.
BTW, my last post 2 U was a little tongue in cheek humor ;>)
GLTY/PR
GLTY/PR
Can we disagree to agree?
;>)
((We can agree to disagree.))
Very nice rebound. Lets hope it never drops below .01 again.
Agreed.
I must disagree when you say the PPS does not give an accurate valuation. The valuation can be any number. You can total all assets do fancy math and come up with a true BOOK VALUE. However, the actual book value may not be the TRUE value. The true value is what it is. What can it be sold for today. Just because my car is valued at $30,000 does not mean it is worth $30,000 if the best I can sell it for is $15,000.
I do agree with you on the manipulation. It happens both ways. What you fail to realize is manipulation or not, the PPS of any compan is what it is. Whether artificially brought up or down does not matter. How many shares do you own? What price did you buy them at? What can you sell them for today?
That is all that matters. Do you feel better seeing that company xxx is valued at xxx dollars but the PPS keeps dropping and your investment is losing lots of money?
I will not mention the name of the company so I stay on topic, but you have said the same thing(s) about another company that is now just about dead. However, you did say many times how undervalued it was and you did say many times you were certain the proper value would eventually be assigned to the stock and the company would be very successful. You obviously know how it turned out for that company and it's shareholders.
And that should be a lesson that manipulation can kill any company. Do you feel better knowing you kept saying this other company was being manipulated and all will be fine one day, yet it is now worthless?
You say that we now can see that PHGI is being manipulated and we can see which way. I agree! It is IMO. To the downside IMO. Is that supposed to make me or anybody else feel better? We have all witnessed manipulation that made our money disappear. Should we feel better knowing that PHGI is being manipulated DOWN and the outcome could mean a worthless stock as has happened with so many other penny stocks that were manipulated down?
I care about making a profit. Period. Which means selling for higher then what I paid. Excuses as to why the companies value is higher or manipulation is hurting the PPS means nothing. Hearing that the value is higher means ZIP to me if I cannot sell at the higher valuation.
((I don't care if the PPS goes to .000000000000000001. The company will survive. The PPS does not give an accurate value of a company period. Manipulation can happen to the upside(artifically inflated), or downside (massive shorting) of a company. I think now the shareholders can see to which side this company is being manipulated. ))
Ha Ha.
((I have proof that the stock is being shorted by brokers. We'll leave it at that.))
If I posted
"I have proof of ___________________________" and we'll leave it at that"
Would my post not be deleted or would I not need to provide the proof I claim I have?
What is your proof that brokers are shorting this stock?
IMO, since you are claiming this to be factual and you claim YOU have the proof and this is a very serious issue I think you should provide that proof or your post should be deleted.
You and every poster on this MB know very well if somebody made a NEGATIVE comment and said they had proof but then says "we'll leave it at that", the post WOULD BE DELETED!
So what is your proof that Brokers as in plural, are shorting this stock?
So far so good. Up to .009
I very much hope it gets back above .01 and stays there.
I have my doubts, but one can still hope ;>)
I wonder if some who have lost faith will sell at .01
I'm seriously thinking about it myself. I have been critical (still am) of the company and certain actions of the CEO. This was only a short term gamble for me. Since I do have serious doubts that we will ever see true gains worth waiting for, I may bail a bit above .01.
That would be my personal decision. Each investor obviously needs to make their own decisions.
((Perhaps this is the one that break the spell of good PR's equating to a lower pps.
We shall see.))
I not think I have ever seen a penny stock make these comments and then still see them alive further down the road.
It seems like every single time a company says they have no control over the PPS and that they believe there is something fishy going on with the trading and they recommend shareholders do this or that, the company ends up worthless almost every single time.
IMO, they are basically saying that they have no control over what is killing the PPS which means what? Exactly what it says :They have no control over the PPS and if outside forces are killing it they cannot do anything about it.
((Is the company being shorted? If so, what can we do about it?
The company believes that recent trading volumes far exceed a reasonable calculation of the public float, especially in this sudden, drastic decline over the last few days. While we fully recognize that legal shorting is a normal part of market activity, we believe that the volume of shares being represented as traded at current prices is excessive and deeply concerning.
As to what a shareholder can do if they are concerned, the company recommends shareholders send written communications to their brokerage firm stating that their Perihelion shares are not to be borrowed or loaned out to anyone. Additionally, shareholders should request written and signed communication from their brokerages confirming that their shares are not available to be borrowed or loaned.))
It is alarming to see how many companies have said the exact same thing as we see PHGI saying above and in most every case the company was 100% correct. They did not have any control over what was killing the PPS and therefore the company was destroyed and turned in to a worthless or near worthless entity.
I myself am upset that at far higher prices, Mr. Beebe was telling callers, e-mailers and etc that he had every intention of not allowing the company to be destroyed and that they had this GR8 Lawyer who was on top of this and that they would stop anything fishy that is hurting the PPS. Now with the PPS in the gutter he is saying they have no control and can do nothing about it and they rec shareholders do this or that.
What happened to this GR8 lawyer that was going to ensure shareholders and the company were protected by outside forces harming the PPS?
IMO, the above comment is bebee admitting that there is nothing he can do to stop the PPS and he claims he DOES FEEL outside and possibly illegal forces are bringing the PPS down, BUT THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN DO TO STOP IT.
Again IMO, that means PHGI shareholders do not stand a chance of ever seeing gains. CEO admitting he feels outside and possibly illegal forces are killing the PPS but there is nothing to stop this from happening (shareholders having their brokers put shares in cert form will NOT stop anything and I have seen many companies tell shareholders to do this only to see most of these companies end up worthless) which IMO is the company telling us the PPS is going to keep dropping and there is nothing to do except accept it as they cant do anything to stop it.
Mr. Bebee, why did you talk so much at far higher PPS levels about this GR8 Lawyer you had that was going to ensure what is happening right now will not happen? You have now done yet another complete 180 on something you previously said. IMO, this is not honesty or transparency. IMO, you do not have a clue what you are doing and should keep your mouth shut and stop saying things just because it is what people want to hear. If it is not true or if it is something you will not be doing then dont say it.
I also do not understand why he did this update for shareholders and spent so much time talking about restricted shares that are not being sold, but he still did not address the amount HE and others have been compensated. Restricted stock or gumballs. Does not matter. If you are being compensated and if you wish to be transparent, then give us a full account of yours and others compensation so we can see if you are over compensating yourself or others or if the compensation is a reasonable amount.
((Is the company being shorted? If so, what can we do about it?
The company believes that recent trading volumes far exceed a reasonable calculation of the public float, especially in this sudden, drastic decline over the last few days. While we fully recognize that legal shorting is a normal part of market activity, we believe that the volume of shares being represented as traded at current prices is excessive and deeply concerning.
As to what a shareholder can do if they are concerned, the company recommends shareholders send written communications to their brokerage firm stating that their Perihelion shares are not to be borrowed or loaned out to anyone. Additionally, shareholders should request written and signed communication from their brokerages confirming that their shares are not available to be borrowed or loaned.))
((poiuty - i know Beebe and the other management team have been compensated in restricted stock. if you don't believe that, then there's nothing i can say beyond it.))
When did I ever say I did not believe they were being compensated in restricted stock? Never. However, I do question if they are somehow also getting shares to sell that R not restricted.
((yes, that would mean they're all down big time on their shares. yes, that's exactly what i believe.))
Why is it we hear so many times that insiders have more to lose then the retail investor because they hold so much restricted stock or such a large % of the float, but somehow the companies fail and the insiders get busy building their new beach houses?
Again, this is the norm in penny stocks, not the exception.
((<<
Valuation is what it is and right now the valuation of PHGI is falling at an alarming rate. I dont care how cheap it looks, I care about the true and current value.
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I'm not talking about how it 'looks' either. at $.0001, which you stated was a possibility, you're talking about a value that *is* $13,000. as I've said, I've never seen a stock, any stock, valued this cheaply in any market in my life.
if you can find me any other example of any stock that has a documented market cap of $20,000 or less I'd be amazed. I'm adamant about this point ))
You can be as adamant as you want. You say you have never seen ANY stock in ANY market with a $13,000 or $20,000 market cap?
Hmm, that is interesting as I have seen many stocks that had multi million dollar market caps that now have a ZERO market cap. Yes, that is right. From multi millions down to ZERO. Worthless.
In fact, there is a very large list of companies that were worth multi millions that are now worth nary a penny. Odd you have not seen any IMO.
No more time to chat. Have work to do. Have a pleasant afternoon and GLTY.
EOM/PR
Since you posted to me I will respond.
I am very critical of the company and even the CEO.
However, I myself find your posts disturbing.
You seem more focused on rubbing salt in to the wounds of individuals then of actualy discussing the company in a mature and adult fashion or trying to seek answers.
Sometimes when reading your posts I wonder if a child is simply playing games on dads comp.
I have decided to no longer reply to one particular poster on this board and I will now add you to the list.
Good luck with--well, good luck with whatever it is you do when you are not engaging in your childish(IMO) antics on MB's.
The way you are looking at it the answer is certainly yes.
((respectfully, i dont think you're absorbing just how cheap $13,000 is. wouldn't that mean $130 buys me 1% of the company?))
What you fail to recognize is the fact we dont really know what we own, what the true value is or what will happen to these assets as they are going to be transferred in to 2 news shells PHGI is buying.
You also must accept the fact that the companies value is not what Analysts think it is or should be, MB posters or anybody else. The valuation is what it is.
Analysts can yell all day long that a company is overvalued or undervalued and give valid reasons to substantiate their analysis. It still means nothing. Because they think it is overvalued and have valid reasons to think so does not mean the stock will drop. And vice versa.
Valuation is what it is and right now the valuation of PHGI is falling at an alarming rate. I dont care how cheap it looks, I care about the true and current value.
PQL, this is certainly not inside or privileged info. It may be personal that he wishes not to disclose, but IMO, if he does not want to disclose his compensation, I must assume it is rather high. If it was low, he would be giving us the numbers and Pr'ing the fact that he is keeping his compensation at a reasonable level until PHGI gets going and a higher compensation is warranted. May I ask if you know what his current compensation to date has been? If not, could you find out?
There are a lot of shares being sold/dumped. It has not been a pretty picture so far.
Ha ha. GR8/funny Post.
Myself, I'd rather have gains then bragging rights or I told you so's - ;^)
Could it be that Class Action Suits against Penny stocks rarely ever deliver a penny to shareholders even if it is proven the company was a sham in a court of law?
((why haven't our very unhappy "shareholders" retained Schubert & Reed LLP or whomever to initiate a class action lawsuit? The posts would certainly incidate that they believe they have grounds.
Could it be that they aren't really shareholders?
Could it be that they know they're just blowing smoke?
Could it be that they know they'd get blown out of the water?))
Cant get blood from a turnip.
I dont. I see it happen everyday with penny stocks. Nobody believes it will hit .0001 until it does and most claim it wont ever hit that low because it will then only be worth xxx $'s which they claim is far too cheap so it will never see that low level.
Yet look how many do indeed hit .0001 and then go bye bye in to the wind, leaving all the people that said it could never happen with lots of egg on their face and very hefty losses.
(( but dont you think the doom and gloom of $.0001 is just a bit out of the realm of reality?))
When this was MUCH higher, some were predicting .05 and people said "no way, it'll never happen". People also said this would hit .01 and many, many people said it will never hit .01 ever and if it did they would by up the float.
Then many said this would go subpenny and again, many, many people said "no way, will never happen".
It printed .005!
The chance of this dropping much further is very, very possible imo.
.0001 is more likely to happen then .03 IMO
I have seen this happen way too many times to dismiss it as so many others have even thought the PPS is telling us a lot.
Sorry, but when people say the PPS does not matter because it WILL be far higher in the future, I can only feel sad for such thinking.
FAR more times then not with penny stocks, people look back and wish they had sold. That is a fact that can not be disputed.
((it turns out that we wish we would've held.))
Up to now the only thing we have gotten and the only thing that matters as far as what we are getting for our share ownership, has been non stop losses.
Anybody can project whatever they want but the facts are that anybody that owns shares of PGHI has gotten nothing. Only losses.
That is a known fact. Until that changes, it remains a fact. Share ownership in PHGI has only resulted in losses. Very large losses to some.
((as far as i see it, it's still a matter of what you're getting with your share ownership.))
The CEO of PHGI did not pay his personal property taxes and is just now paying?
That is not a good sign imo. A CEO who starts multiple message boards, PM's people that speak critical and is not taking care of paying his personal bills?
How R we to trust him to run PHGI correctly if he is not even current with his personal affairs?
Does anybody know how much Compensation Mr. Bebee is getting from PHGI? How much and where is his pay/compensation coming from?
I hope we dont find out he is compensating himself a large amount. IMO, he needs to be paid, but all too many times we see ceo's who's performance was miserable yet they are compensated very, very large sums. Considering the PPS has fallen from .40 - .50 to a low of .005, I will be very disappointed to see if he is being compensated a large amount.
I suspect he is indeed getting a large amount for compensation/pay. If he wasn't, I assume he would be letting the world know he is paying himself peanuts until he gets PHGI up and running. All in my opinion.
Amazing this hit .005
Those that just bought at .01 R down quite bit in the blink of an eye.
Mr. Bebee, since we know you read these boards, would you please disclose either via a PR or thru your paid consultant the exact amount of your compensation to date? If you are not over paying yourself, there should be no reason for you not to disclose how much you have been compensated. In fact, it would be very reassuring to see you are not over paying yourself, while on the other hand it will be a travesty if we see that you are overpaying yourself imo.
Ha Ha. I hope you get $300 per share. Heck, I hope you get $1.00 per share.
But I must admit, when I see a stock trading in the penny's and people start posting about outrageous price targets, I see it is a red flag.
A stock trading at .07, yet a MB poster is projecting/estimating a $300 price target is a bit out of whack IMO.
If others saw a .07 stock and thought it would be worth .25, they would be loading the boat. If they thought .07 would turn in to $1.00, they would be loading several boats. .07 to $300 and they would buy an entire trucking company and load every 18 wheeler with the stock.
I am not impressed by what this company says or claims or projects. They have been promising great things for a long, long time now and they always say they expect things to happen very soon. They have not been accurate with their projections, promises or timeframes a singe time, so I will only believe it when I see it.
But common sense tells me if the general consensus was that ACII was a .07 stock that was going to hit .14, people would be buying for that 100% gain. $1 and people would be buying far more. $300 and every investor on the planet would want to buy at .07.
Apparently, not many believe ACII will hit those numbers or the buying would be intense. I think most have heard the many promises and projections from the company for so long, only to see nothing happen except a declining PPS that most are willing to wait until ACII 'shows them the money' before jumping in.
If this is going to $1, let alone $300, there will be ample time for anybody to buy and get fantastic gains after ACII proves they are legit. I see no reason to buy at .07 when I can easily buy at .25 after the company proves itself to me and I can still enjoy very nice gains with far less risk.
I LOVE your posts!
All very good and accurate points BTW.
GLTY/PR
Did you ask Bebee how he was getting paid? How much he was getting paid? How R others getting paid?
I can say this. Mr. Transparent would be PR'ing and making public if he was only compensating himself in peanuts. If he is compensating himself or others a large amount he sure is not going to PR it. Shareholders would and should be outraged if they find out his compensation is a large number as the PPS has fallen from .40 - .50 to sub penny.
He paid one poster on this board $400 cash, and that poster only beat the company down. Kinda weird for them to pay $400 to some guy so he can bash them. They compensated XXX, as per his public disclaimer over a mil shares. For what exactly? To manage a PHGI MB or promote the company on his other websites?
Company is not shy about compensating people far more then they should be imo. If they are going to compensate a MB poster a mil shares (what was the PPS when he got those shares issed? I bet it was a large sum of money after doing the math), I have to assume they will not be shy about compensating themselves as much as they want.
Could the big sells be insiders getting their pay/compensation? Why will they not disclose how many current employee's they have and why will they not say how much they are each getting paid? Not saying makes me believe they are not saying for a reason. Nobody will be very happy to see the PPS dropping everyday and then see that insiders or others were compensated far more then they deserve.
But again, this IS the norm, not the exception in penny's so I myself will not be shocked to see if bebee or others are being compensated large sums.
Could it be the company or insiders?
((the question is who's got that many shares to dump at any price?))
How are they getting paid? Is Bebee working for free? Other employees working for free? How is the company paying it's bills?
It sure would not be the first time IF we find out that they are paying for everything with stock and it sure would not be the first time IF we see insiders compensating/paying the,selves an ungodly amount.
Could that be happening? Maybe yes, maybe no. But I will be very surprised if I see a very small number for the salaray/compensation. My WAG is they are compensating themselves some very large numbers.
That is the norm not the exception in the penny's.
Or an I dont know? Or I prefer to not render an opinion at this time? There are far more answers to your question then just simply yes or no.
Again, here is exactly what I said
((Yes, down in the pinks there is a lot of manipulation that occurs and many times the company has no control. But at the same time, many times the company not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks.))
Above I make it very clear it could be one or the other and I do not even hint at what my opinion is as to which category PHGI is in.
Here is what you said. It was not a TRUE question.
((So - do I understand you to say that PHGI is one of those companies where mgmt not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks.))
You were implying that as YOU understand it, I say that PHGI is one of those companies where mgmt not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks
What you said was certainly NOT CLEAR. You could have actually asked which of the two categories do you feel PHGI falls in. You didnt. You implied I was putting them in the worst category. Since my comment was very generic and did not place PHGI in any of the two categories, once again, you could have asked which category I think they are in and I also note you did not say do I understand you to say that PHGI is one of those companies where mgmt has no over the manipulation which was my other comment.
You purposely used the worst case scenario/category and implied that that is what I was implying(g).
How do you feel about the current PPS? How do you feel about the movement of the stock since Bebee took over? What do you think about a CEO who is supposedly starting several businesses creating multiple message boards and staying so glued to the MB's that he sends PM's out to people within minutes of their posts?
By the way, how much money does PHGI have? How many employee's? How is Bebee getting paid? How R the employees getting paid? How R they paying their rent, their bills? They have both business expenses as well as personal expenses.
It seems like everytime I follow a company in which everybody is praising the CEO, talking about how honest he is, how much he is watching out for shareholders and the big kiss of death of insiders are buying shares on the open market, insiders control a large % of the float, insiders have been investing their own money in the company, Insiders will lose if PPS goes down so insiders will work as hard as possible to get the PPS up as it harms them if it goes down.
Pure horse manure IMO. Everytime I read this crap, I follow the stock as it drops to near worthlessness and people suddenly are wondering what happened to their honest insiders that stand to lose big if the PPS drops. Funny how these PK insiders can have so much of their own money invested, buying tons of shares on the open market, owning a large % of the float and when PPS drops 99% and they go underwater, the insiders somehow walk away filthy rich while the retail holder has 99% losses.
Please do not try to twist my posts/opinions.
Here is exactly what I said
((Yes, down in the pinks there is a lot of manipulation that occurs and many times the company has no control. But at the same time, many times the company not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks.))
You then say and put in bold
((So - do I understand you to say that PHGI is one of those companies where mgmt not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks.))
I very clearly state that manipulation occurs and that MANY times a company has NO CONTROL over it and that MANY times the company has control and is involved in it.
The above statement does not give my opinion as to if I think PHGI fits in to either of the two categories. It was a general statement that applies to all companies.
Have a nice evening. I have no beef/problem with you and will be happy to discuss PHGI with you, but please do not twist my words. I have plenty of other critical opinions that I have posted you can dwell on(lol) so there is no need to twist these words to attempt to bait me in to some kind of an argument.
I will continue to be critical until Mr. Bebee and the never ending drop in pps gives me reason not to be.
FYI- I am critical of every pink sheet and otc stock, even those I may be long in. With the sham/failure rate what it is, I find that to be best ;^)
To each his own.
GLTY/PR
I never said he forced anybody to buy or sell at any price.
The fact is, the PPS of any stock is heavily influenced by the companies performance and the actions of the management team.
This applies to any public company as I think most would agree. Yes, down in the pinks there is a lot of manipulation that occurs and many times the company has no control. But at the same time, many times the company not only has control but is involved in the manipulation, especially down in the pinks.
Regardless, if a company is performing and management is performing it is typically reflected in the PPS and vice versa.
PHGI is now at .008, down from .40 - .50(?) since Bebee took over. Numbers speak a thousand words.
GLTY/PR
((Could you please explain this to me?
"The CEO is 100% responsible for the continued drop in the PPS. It all starts and stops with him and imo, so far he has failed miserably and the PPS obviously reflects this".
Exactly HOW is JB responsible. Whom on this board has he forced to buy or sell shares? If my next door neighbor takes a notion tomorrow to buy 1MM shares at .008 and sell them at .009, how exactly is JB responsible for that? ))
((50 more people who wished he had as well.))
Just add up all current and past shareholders and I bet the number is higher then 50. a lot higher. The fact is this is now at .008 at an all time low. Did it not used to be in the .40 - .50 range? Well whatever the high was, it has been a large fall to current levels.
People can claim they are happy with PHGI and who am I to call them liars. All I can say is if they are happy with all talk and a pps that fell from it's high's to .008, then I want whatever happy pill they are taking.
((I've come to the conclusion he either does not care or cannot do anything about it. Either way, any holders here are screwed as I see it.))
I hate to say I agree with you, but I do.
Go figure what?
.008 is pathetic imo.
With all the great news, great talk and etc and this just keeps dropping?
This is not looking good at all imo.
Many bought at .01 or a bit above thinking it must be the bottom. They are now down a large %.
IMO, if this hits .0008, many will still be praising the CEO.
IMO, the ceo is losing credibility more and more every single day.
IF this is being shorted, I do not blame the shorts. I blame the CEO. The minute people saw him starting message boards and PM'ing people with his ridiculous rants proving he stays glued to the MB's was a huge sign saying "SHORT THIS SHAM".
The CEO is 100% responsible for the continued drop in the PPS. It all starts and stops with him and imo, so far he has failed miserably and the PPS obviously reflects this.
Far too much crappy talk by the CEO IMO. Nor do I feel his actions in regards to setting up message boards and PM'ing people show that he is successful or honest. If anything, it shows him to be a shammy CEO and again, I think this is what most think as evidenced by the sinking of the PPS.
To Mr. Bebee, IMO you have failed miserably. .008 with it looking like it is going to fall much further. The only thing that will convince me that you are truly successful and honest is to prove it. talk is cheap. PPS is everything and the PPS has done nothing but drop huge amounts since you took over.
IF PHGI does fail, I hope the SEC looks very close at your actions and IF you have been found to have engaged in any funny business, I hope you get the punishment you deserve.
((So we're still at 130M OS @ .008. Go figure.))
PPS not looking good.
.01 is a critical area. If it cant hold .01, there is no telling how fast and far this will fall.
I hope it reverses course and stays above .01
Could get very, very ugly if .01 does not hold.
Mr. Beebe, please wake up. The original drop was one thing, but the drop from .02 to now sub penny is inexcusable IMO.
Only you have the power to stop this freefall.
Prove you R the GR8, honest and successful man everybody says you are and show us GAINS. Having the PPS drop as it is, is not making you look very good IMO. Nor is the talk about how you now have no control over the PPS after you ran your mouth so much about going after those you felt were harming PHGI and claimed you were doing everything to protect the PPS and shareholder value. In case you haven't noticed shareholder value is dropping to all time lows.
However, something tells me IMO, you already know this.
A $30 trade?
((0.092 328 OBB 14:34:40 ))
I am always suspicious when I see such trades.
Almost appears as if they are trying to scare people in to selling.
More concerning though is the lack of buying interest. With no buying support there is nothing to support the PPS and in most cases where there is no buying support, it ends very, very ugly.
If PAVC was such a great company or even a decent gamble, why is nobody interested in buying at .10?
Forget the $1, $3 and $5 predictions. If this simply goes to .20 it is a 100% gain. Not a bad gain at all. Yet even the gamblers/flippers do not think it will hit .20. If they did, they would be buying. Gamblers and flippers do not shy away from 100% gains if they think there is a chance it will happen.
My personal opinion is this will see .20 and possibly a good bit higher. I do think PAVC will fail, but I also think they will try to get the PPS up however they can.
However, although that is my opinion, I do not trust the company enough to place a bet and apparently most gamblers/flippers are also not willing to place their bets or we would see buying at this level IMO.
As an observer, I see things the same way as you. I also do not think this is proper for any poster to do, much less a moderator.
Again, your below comment is 100% correct imo.
((You wanna make this about me, just like our banned buddy XXXXXXX tried it to make it about the poster. With him, it was always about the poster, not the post, while he XXXXXX and XXXXXX and XXXXXX away.))
U R wasting your time imo.
Very, very obviously the poster you are chatting with was 100% wrong on this stock, however this poster simply will not admit it, ever. Instead, the poster appears to be instigating you imo, with repeated talk about you somehow screwing up while she made oodles and oodles of profits on your screw up.
The facts are very clear. PAVC had a very short lived massive run and since then it has been an utter disaster. Repeated talk about $3-$5 share prices coming anyday, repeated talk about a huge short covering run to happen anyday. None of this happened, even though some almost guaranteed it would happen.
The company has been involved in some very serious issues and has not been able to follow thru on the many PR's they put out. Instead, they just keep altering the biz plan to cover up all of the many things they were working on, but failed to make it a reality.
The PPS is near an all time low.
IMO, you are 100% correct and the poster you are chatting with is and has been 100% wrong. However, as you have no problem admitting if you were wrong, this other person simply refuses to acknowledge the facts, which proves without a doubt that she has been 100% wrong and no matter how hard you try, I dont think imo, that you will ever see this poster admit they were wrong.
I hope this post does not get deleted, but if it does, I must assume the bulk of posts lately will also be deleted as the rules clearly state to talk about the company and to not harp on individuals, yet what I see is the moderator instigating another poster and making comments about your losses/actions that are not warranted and should not be made by any poster, much less a moderator.
TAX IMO PAVC will never be a success. IMO, even if they shut the doors, some will still never admit they were wrong about PAVC.
Your below comment was 100% spot on imo!
((Ya know, you can deny a truth to high heaven ... but that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth. ;)))
Excellet rebuttal. Very accurate, on topic and to the point.
((XXXXXX, you SO FUNNY! I don't think I've ever met anyone, other that that XXXXXX cat, who was MORE wrong about a stock than you were with this one earlier this year. Back in May and June, you, XXXXXXX, XXXX and XXXXXXXX were pumping the hell out of Paivis, and then because I'm off by 6 weeks about a now irrelevant event that transpired more than a year ago, you jump all over it like it's YOUR VINDICATION! HUZZAH!
You have never once said, "OK, look, I guess I was wrong about Paivis" Don't you think you should have by now?
And LOL! You say you aren't watching this stock's every up or down tick.... Really? How can you be posting if you aren't watching this board? You're still here posting, aren't you?
How about the 1 year Paivis price trend? Are you watching that LOL? ))
Great! Buy all U want.
I very much hope it turns out to be profitable.
GLTY/PR
Very True. No argument from me.
GLTY/PR
I do not care if Rhonda is a paid employee or a consultant.
If you called ACHI, she was the person who called you back or returned your e-mails. Her name was at the bottom of the PR's put out by the company.
I have talked with Marc, but not without going thru Rhonda first.
She is very much a part of ACII. In fact, she is the main voice of the company.
She was not honest about many, many things.
A paid schill, IMO.
Most have spoken to her. Most know what they were told. I will let each individual decide if they feel they were lied to or not.
Once again, have you done any DD on her past history? If so, does it not concern you that she was involved in other failed companies in which she did the same things as she is doing with ACII? Paid to tell you how great everything was and how great the future looks. Did a single one of her past ventures succeed? No. Did any promises made come true? Nope!
Have you looked extensively at Marcs past history?
Do your own DD and decide for yourself. I am not here to pump or bash. Just posting my opinion. Others should do their own DD and come to their own conclusions imo.
My opinion is I will only believe this company is legit when they prove it and stop talking about it. How much talk has there been? How long have they been saying how great everything is? How long have they been saying anyday now? Years of talk and promises has gotten ACII nowhere.
IMO, it is time for them to start producing and stop talking.
Any shareholder that has been in ACII for a while must be tired of talk and promises and a declining PPS and likely would like to see some of these promises come true along with some profits.
IMOOC/PR