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And where is your link and proof of this factual comment?
(There is a massive short still in this)
I would love to see the proof and know how many shares are short.
I'll await your response with proof and numbers. Or do we assume you are wrong if you cannot provide the link/proof/numbers to back up your claim?
So here they are admitting that they have been looking in to the abnormal trading for a year but just now PR'd they are trading on the berlin exchange and they didnt know about it?
LOL. Wow, a year of looking in to the abnormal trading and they did not know their stock was trading on the berlin exchange? Sharp group they must be!
(In closing, Mr. Greg Bauer, Paivis Corp. CEO, commented: "The Company has had an abnormal trading history since over a year ago, and we have been trying to understand the causes and prevent future abnormalities.)
Thank You. And very true. People should be discussing the company, not another poster that has differing opinions then the majority.
(With all due respect to the quest to destroy poyou2011, I think we're scapegoating one guy when we have a lot more to debate/discuss.)
Yes, it does work both ways. You post and tell me to be miserable and accuse me of being somebody I am not, but then ask for my help and to provide you with some info?
As you said, it works both ways. I have no intention of helping somebody that is intent on throwing rocks at me and insulting me.
Do you always treat people like dirt and then ask them for their help?
ANYBODY can go and see when PAVC started trading on the berlin exchange.
As I said, I will NOT provide answers to people that throw rocks at me, nor provide info that is public and factual that a fifth grader can find.
If you want to know when they started trading, then go and get the info yourself. I already have it and I dont feel the need to help people or provide info for people that throw rocks at me or come back after I provide answers and then ask for more.
I was PESTERED to provide a link for the berlin exchange. I would not do so and was accused of not knowing and to provide the link or admit I am a liar. I did so. But that wasnt good enough and I was pestered for more info that is PUBLIC and insulted further.
Do your own DD.
I can guarantee if I post what I know longs will sheet in their pants and then stone me to death accusing me of lying even though the facts are there for you to see. But you need to see and get the facts yourself so you know what to believe.
So, go get the info yourself and see it for yourself. You will be shocked so be prepared and I assume you will believe yourself if YOU find the info?
Again, will you be shocked if you find out the company knew about this since the beginning? Will you be shocked if you find out the company/insiders profited from being listed there?
The facts are right there if you wish to see them. If not, fine by me, but dont ask me to provide help or info, just so people can further attack me.
Frankly, considering the truth and facts are right there for anybody to see, I suspect most don't want to know the facts or acknowledge them. If you did, you would go and find them and then likely call your lawyer or maybe your DR. to get your blood pressure down after you see the facts.
News would be nice.
However news of late has not helped.
LBWR needs to prove they are for real.
Until then, I don't think this gets much buying interest.
Sure wish I knew what Mr. Morris and LBWR was up to.
The longer this goes like this, the less likely there will be any gains for us, imo.
Please LBWR, prove you are a real company.
I will be upset but not shocked if it does not happen.
It is a penny stock after all.
75k (have 300k total)
But I pulled the order after speaking with my broker.
I may re-submit it depending. Will let you know.
Yes.
LMAO
;^)
By the way. Cant reply to your PM, but agree 110%
Insiders of the company posting on a message board for the company?
Not a good sign, imo.
In fact, if it is true, it is a very, very bad sign.
Hope it is not true for the sake of longs.
(Didn't Omey hint that he/she was a PAVC insider?)
With all respect intended, you will get more with honey then you will with vinegar.
Most here have done nothing but attack and insult me.
It is like I am being stoned in the town square of pavcville.
Yet the people throwing rocks at me are asking for favors or help?
Life doesn't work that way. Sorry.
Try honey instead of throwing rocks and you may get what you ask for in the future.
I finaly gave in and provided the link. But that was not good enough.
Nothing is good enough to satisfy you people so I will not try any longer.
I was pestered to provide something very simple and did not see the need to since any of you could have done it very easily yourself.
But I gave in and provided the link as a test. Just to see how people respond. And as I suspected, what you asked me for and what I provided was not good enough and people are now asking for more.
Sorry, do your own DD. Do not ask me to provide public info any 5th grader could dig up in minutes.
You people rag in me and insult me, but then ask me to do your DD for you? Comical.
As for proof. Many of you have posted more B.S. it is pathetic. Yet not many provide much proof of anything.
For a year or so, I cant even keep up with all of the things people said were guaranteed to happen and here is the proof it will happen. Yet none of it did happen and the proof provided was very obviously not proof, but opinions.
So, it is quite comical, imo, for people to post useless B.S. that never happens but then demand proof from others when they cant prove anything themselves or have tried to but have been proven wrong every time. In fact, I have lost track of how many guarantee's the dog guy and a few others have made that never happened, but were guaranteed to happen.
By the way, will anybody here be shocked if they find out the company knew about the berlin exchange alot longer and/or if they were making money on this? It could be possible.
I really feel bad for many people here. After a year of being lied to and shafted by the company, people here still believe whatever this company says.
They lied about doing the RS. They lied about the last TA. The list of lies is rather long.
Why people choose to continue to believe after being lied to so many times is beyond me, but your choice entirely.
PAVC, the next MSFT so buy now while it is cheap. Imo, it will be over $100 a share when they uplist to the bigboards, secure all of these new contracts and aquisitions and big boys will pile on buying up as much pavc as they can. Don't miss the boat. Buy PAVC now before they explode to the upside.
All in my opinion of course.
I provided you with the info, however just because you cant figure it out, stop pestering me!!
I guess I will limit my postings here since people cannot be satisfied no matter what.
You pestered me non stop as did others to provide a link to the berlin exchange. I did not do it because it was so easy for anybody to do, I did not see the need to help others do something their 5 year old child could do.
Furthermore, I knew even if I provided the link, you and others would not be satisfied and pester me even more, even though I provided exactly what you asked for.
So, I then proved myself correct by posting the link and golly gee. That was not good enough and now I am being pestered with 'we want more proof. What you gave was not good enough and if you cant provide more then we assume you are lying'.
And guess what? I purposely did not provide all of the trade data history for pavc just to see if anybody here could find it themself since it is so easy to find and if people would respond back asking me for more info after I provided what you asked for.
And I pegged it right. I finaly gave in and provided the link, purposely only giving ther link to the exchange and nothing else just to see if that would satisfy people and as usual it did not and you are again asking me to provide even more info that you can find yourself, just like you could have found the belin exchange yourself.
And if I posted the data of Pavc's history on the berlin exchange, that too would entice you and others to respond asking me to provide even more info or admit I am clueless.
So, let me be the bigger man, as I have no intention of playing silly games with you or others and simply say, you all are right. I know nothing. I am clueless. I have no info on this company, no idea what is going on with them.
They are a perfect company, with no issues and a screaming buy. Mangement is great. They are 100% on top of their game. They are involved in no funny business. They had nothing to do with the many, many issues that have plagued the company.
All issues related to the company were other peoples fault. The company and it's management acted in the best interest of shareholders and had nothing to do with any issues, nor were they involved in any of the issues and the company and all of it's representatives have been 100% truthful since day 1.
This is such a great company with great with great mangement, I expect them to have a market cap in the muli billions and be added to Forbes Fortune 100.
Have a nice week.
Never had this problem before. In fact, many times I have sold a stock with a limit on the ASK and it sold a good bit above my limit.
Thanks. Hope you are correct.
To SOR who pm'd me. I cannot pm back.
But I do have part of my shares for sale at .06
You said you had a buy in at .062
Meanwhile my shares still sit unsold at .06
I am awaiting a call back from one of my higher up contacts at one of my brokers to see what is going on and why my shares are not selling below the bid.
You apparently did not read my last post.
Have a wonderful week.
I agree. However, as each day passes I see far more bad signs then good signs.
I guess all we can do is hope the good signs start to re-appear and the bad signs go away.
I just wish we knew what was going on with the company.
They went from being very transparent with Mr. Morris being very willing to talk to people to us being almost left in the dark with Mr. Morris no longer willing to talk.
He has not returned a single call or e-mail from me of late.
My hope is he is very busy and ready to let out a bunch of good news, but that is only my hope. My brain is telling me the silence is not a good thing.
Good grief. How hard is this?
I will no longer reply to anybody asking me to do something you can do yourself in less then 1 or 2 minutes!!!
http://www.berlinstockmarket.com/
How can people not know this?
I am not giving up either. Just frustrated as this company seemed to have such promise and that promise is slwoly slipping away more and more everyday.
You bought some at the bid yesterday?
So what does that tell us considering I was trying to sell BELOW THE BID and my shares did not sell?
You could have bought my shares for cheaper, but instead my shares, available for sale BELOW THE BID did not sell, but the mm's sold you some higher?
Hmm!!
That doesn't sound good, imo.
If anybody was trying to buy, why would my shares not sell below the BID, but you get filled higher?
Ya know track, I dont appreciate your insults either claiming I am using a childs alias aqnd etc. I thought the moderators said NO INSULTS. So, please stop the insults.
As far as accusing me of providing no proof. I again can only laugh. Do you know how to use a computer? If so, then all the proof is right there for you find, rather easily.
So, please stop asking me to do something that is so simple, anyone can do it.
Why not go to the exchange yourself(on your comp) and see for yourself? It is very easy to do. They will even show the quotes for the american symbol and the berlin symbol.
You can even type in any american symbol and if there is a match it will pull up the berlin symbol for that stock.
So easy, a 5th grader can do it!! I see somebody posted a link to the berlin exchange already. See how easy that was?
So, feel free to go there and look and see the proof for yourself. But please dont ask me to do simple tasks you can do yourself very easily.
First, STOP replying to me if you cannot stop the attacks and insults.
I hereby ask the moderator to tell you to follow the rules. I am sick or your non stop attacks and insults, as you throw at me again in this post I am replying to and repeatedly in the past.
Now, on topic, and no I wont insult you back in return, only respectfully ask you to stop or have the moderators delete your repeated insulting posts.
You ask
(With that being said, why would ANYONE go out of their way to see if their stock is on another exchange?)
I can only laugh and reply how can any company not care or be aware or check to see if there is any irregular trading activity on their stock and why.
With all the major problems this companies stock has had, and with the company knowing something was amiss for a year, I think it is comical and inept they claim they were unaware and never bothered to look in to the abnormal trading until a year later and claim they just now found out about this.
If he were Bill Gates and pulled something so inept, MSFT shareholders would demand he step down and the board would likely want the same. No company is going to succeed if your leader is inept, imo.
(obviously I'm not as knowledgable with the Berlin exchange as you, so if you wouldn't mind, please post a link that will show that information)
Hmm, you are saying you dont know how to check for yourself and ask me to do it for you, but in your very next post, you prove you know how to do it.
Again, my main question(s) would be to Bauer. Proof the stock has been traded on the berlin exchange has been available for anybody that wishes to go and look. The big question is how can Bauer claim he was not aware of it?
Once again, he is either lying about not knowing about it or he is 100% inept imo, if he does not know his stock is being traded on a public excahnge that anybody with a computer can access and see it trade. Yet in all this time, with all the weird things going on with the stock, Bauer claims he was unaware shares were trading on the berlin exchange?
Smells very fishy to me. What has Bauer been doing the last year?
I find it comical imo.
The guy is either not being truthful or is 100% inept, imo.
Neither is very good, imo.
(But I did see there were no trades of paivis today on the Berlin exchange...so maybe )
Have you spoken to Mr. Morris? Anything about why they are paying babybulls to do nothing except take shares and eventualy sell them in to the float?
0 Volume yet again. 0 interest in this stock.
As I have said before when I DD'd this company it looked as good as any penny stock I have DD'd.
However, 100% shams provide more gains then LBWR. This stock and the company seems to have been dead for quite some time now.
I did initiate a small position a while ago. I have tried to sell some below the bid twice now just as a test. Both times nobody wanted my shares below the bid, which doesn't make me feel all comfy about the future of this stock.
If it is such a great company with such great future prospects, why is nobody willing to buy and buy below the bid?
Investors look forward. Most want to find undiscovered gems before they leave the station. Apparently there aren't many looking at LBWR that are overly concerned this is going to leave the station anytime soon.
I hope this does not turn out to be your typical penny stock in which everybody was so sure great things were going to happen if you just stay patient, only to see it fall apart like many penny stocks do.
I hate to say it since I am long, but it does appear this may be happening with LBWR and only the company can turn this around and make it work for us long shareholders.
I am finding it hard to have any faith at this moment in Mr. Morris or LBWR.
Have they given us any reason to feel confident after this stock fell such a large % and has since been 100% dead with zero interest since the fall?
Long and hoping for the best, but wish I had never touched this. So much talk of this being dead for so long and soon great news and contracts coming anyday with this being spring loaded and ready to rise when the good news hits.
Looks like all those that have been predicting the above will happen are still waiting for it to happen.
I can't help but question what this company is doing and do not think any news, no matter how good it sounds, will move this up. Maybe a pop on some good news, but I see nothing that leads me to believe this is going to head back to the .15 - .20 level. The longer it stays dead, the longer we have no clue what the company is doing, the bigger the chance it goes down, not up, imo.
GLTA/PR
No telling. The head honcho just stepped down due to what they claim was health issues. Who know's what the real truth is.
Not sure who is in charge for IR.
We know the company keeps claiming a message board poster is proof they are legit. Most 'news' comes from that MB poster.
There was talk by this MB poster that he may take a position with the company.
However, I do not think anything being said or rumored should be counted on. If it is a sham, which I think it is, none of it really matters anyway.
Why dont you go and look for yourself and then come to your own conclusions?
Will you be shocked to see it has traded there for a long while now?
Or will you be more shocked to see how long it has traded and then wonder why Bauer is just now mentioning this?
I suggest going and looking for yourself so you know the truth, rather then relying on a MB poster.
The proof is right there. Just go and look.
ANYBODY can go to the berlin exchange on their comp and see PAVC was being traded.
Sorry Bauer did not know this.
It is no giant secret. It is a public exchange. Go there and you'll see the companies stock being traded.
I cant provide proof other then to tell you to go and look for yourself and you will see PAVC on the berlin exchange and you can see it has been there for awhile.
Have a nice evening.
Who is insinuating here? Not me.
(lets see... you are making an insinuation that CEO Bauer DID know about Berlin.)
I said he EITHER was not being truthful or he was inept.
Is that clear enough for you NOT to put words in my mouth?
I never said he KNEW.
I said I find it hard to believe he didnt know and questioned how he could not know and then said he was either not being truthful and DID know or he did NOT know, making him INEPT.
Not too hard.
He is either lying or he is not.
If he is not lying, then he must be one inept individual to not know where his company stock is traded.
YES
NO
IMO, you should be more interested in Bauers answers then my own.
Agree. But try telling that to the kool aid drinkers on AURC Board.
They are all too busy counting how much money those .08 shares are going to become worth when buyout is done or if they pass on buyout and go at it alone.
Some are calling for AURC to hit $5 - $10 per share.
Considering it is under .10, maybe it should get to .50 - $1 with proof they are legit before people start putting downpayments on their new yachts.
If people could go out and pay .05 - .10 a share for something that is guaranteed to go up as much as many claim in a very short time period, people would be lined up to buy. They aren't and I dont know many people that pass up such great deals.
Why would anybody pass up buying at .08 if it was guaranteed to be worth .55 in a very short time, let alone the $5 - $10 that others predict?
Did you ever hear the phrase dont believe everything you read?
This is especially true with PR's put out by penny stock companies.
They have been trading on the Berlin Exchange but claim they did not know this until recently?
Smells very fishy, imo.
How could they not know that?
Did anybody ask Bauer how he can claim this now but claim he was unaware of it all this time?
Little peons knew the stock was being traded on the Berlin exchange. Anybody who bothered to look knew this. Yet Bauer claims he was unaware?
Smells very fishy to me.
That should be an interesting answer from Bauer as to how he can claim he was unaware of this and is just now finding this out.
Do you really think that this stock has been trading on the Berlin exchange all this time and Bauer did not know this as he claims?
IMO, he is either not being truthful or you really have to wonder how management could be so inept as to not know this.
And I doubt any insider of any company could not be aware of something so easy to see.
If I knew they were being traded on the berlin exchange and any investor that bothered to look could see it, how could the company not know?
Argo, please feel free to respond if you like, but may I respectfully ask that you do so and stay on topic and leave out the insults?
Thanks.
Don't know as there are many definitions of real.
They did PR it. Does that make it real?
My take on it is it is a typical SHAM GAME.
Money can be made, but those holding for long term gains are more likely to lose then to gain, imo.
Every penny stock claims great things. And most never deliver and the only people profiting are the traders. Those holding long term for the company to fulfill it's promises normaly lose everything as it is very rare for penny stocks to come thru and even more rare for long term holders to see gains. Some do. But most know the bulk of penny stocks never deliver in the long term.
Yep, agree.
IMO, AURC is simply playing games, nothing more.
They claim to be legit because the Russian Ministry says so. Why would I believe such a corrupt organization?
What I also found funny was when the company put out a PR saying that a message board posters homeade video proves they are legit. If people saw that and did not see huge red flags, they are blind, imo. What legit company claims they are legit in a PR because a message board poster says they are?
NONE!
If they had the billions they claim they have they could prove it the right way instead of telling people to rely on a very corrupt organization and a message board posters video to prove they are legit. That makes it very clear to me they cant prove their claims thru valid means.
Sorry, no they dont. You are claiming that a penny stock can go down 95% as easily as it can up up 3 - 5 fold is impossible, hence there is no life on earth.
The fact is, it is the norm not the exception for penny stocks to crumble 95% and anybody playing penny stocks knows this and if you dont you can go do some dd and see just how many penny stocks do indeed drop that much and never recover or simply go away never to return.
It is also a known fact that there is life on earth.
I can only laugh at you comparing life on earth to what chance an eauity has of falling.
Good luck with AURC. I really have no desire to discuss something like this with anybody that see's things in the manner in which you do. Comparing life on earth with equities? Please, dont waste my time.
You seem to infer that it is impossible for a stock to fall 95% as easily as it can rise 3 - 5 fold or even more. Yet if you took the time to do some DD you would see that it is the norm for penny stocks to crumble 95%. If you dont know this factual information, there is no reason to waste my time discussing anything with you.
Reply back if you want, howevever I will not waste my time replying back to something so utterly ridiculous.
(poiuyt20011 - They both represent the same fallacious distortion of statistics.)
Not amazing. IMO, AURC is a SHAM and that is how moderators operate MB's for SHAM stocks. They only want the B.S. positives to be seen while hiding the many negatives and giant red flags.
However, why anybody with a single brain cell would read that board and want to go long AURC is beyond me. Most anybody with a brain cell or two can see it is very likely sham.
(NDOL aka NWOG and AURC, unreal Russian scams, both those boards I would guess had a 30%+ deletion rate of all messages, people would comment about the unbelievable amount of deletes - that they had never seen that amount of deletes on any other message boards - simply amazing, LOL)
Comparing %'s of planets and life in the solar system with equities is akin to comparing Apple's with a new vette.
There is no comparison or correlation between the two.
(By that reasoning, since less than 5% of the planets and moons in the solar system have life, then the earth has no life)
NO, YOU are dead wrong and must not have too much experience with penny stocks.
As most every penny stock investor KNOWS, penny stocks OFTEN fall 99%. In fact, more penny stocks fail and go down 99% then ones that succeed and if you do not believe me, all the numbers proving this to be correct are located on the SEC website.
Frankly, it is alarming to see somebody say that 'it makes no sense that a penny stock can fall 99% as easily as it can rise 3 - 5 fold', because that shows you do not follow many penny stocks.
If you did, then you would see 99% drops are the norm, not the exception, which again can be proven if you go to the SEC website and do a little DD.
(POIUYT20011, YOU'RE DEAD WRONG IN YOUR POST. To say that the PPS of a stock can just as easily go to 1/100th of it's current price as it can quadrupling or quintupling makes absolutely no sense.)
Not if there is a chance it will fall further. If this hits .0009, I would think most would have been thrilled to sell at .09. And this could go to .0009 as easily as it can go to .19, .29, .55 or any higher number.
So, how is it risky to sell at .09 if there is a chance there may not be any rewards and instead a near total loss is possible and probable as with any penny stock?
( the selling of their shares under 9 would seem more risk than reward for the few extra $$'s...
May I ask why positive sounding posts with no proof or substantiation of the posts being truthful or accurate are allowed to be posted without being deleted and without anybody having to prove anything positive they post, yet most every negative post is deleted and the poster is told to provide proof or the post is deleted and the content dismissed as being wrong?
Frankly, whether positive or negative it is still all speculation.
The Russian Ministry saying bla bla bla is not proof of anything.
As far as I can see nothing positive or negative has been 100% proven making everything posted, positive or negative, 100% speculation and nothing more.
So, why are positive posts with no proof not deleted but negative posts are?
My opinion is this is a sham. I can not prove it. It is merely my opinion which should be allowed to be posted without being deleted, just as posts saying "I think AURC is worth $5 a share" and posts that say " I think AURC is worth .0001 a share" should be allowed. Or Posts saying "AURC is 100% legit" or posts saying "AURC is a sham" should be allowed without being deleted.
So with all opinions being speculative at this point in time why are positive posts allowed with no proof but negative posts are deleted?
Nothing has been proven to date positive or negative
LOL
;^)