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update on stowe reporter investigation
all press releases since dan took over prrm. all press releases for smmw. all known officers and directors of summus and prime rate. a/s and o/s dating back to 2004. all revs reported in
pr's.
all business sold. and current holdings. they have all pertinent data and some unsubstantiated info. lots to digest.
all relations with ed hayter and the asstrom family. all dividends etc.
lots of the ex employees live in the stowe area so verification of lots will not be a chore. i dont think anyone will put themselvfes in harms way legally with a newspaper investigation.
truth on this will come easier being its a stowe newspaper. i will be interested to see if dan will voluntarily have a sit down with scott.
will update when available.
and how much have you made on summus?
for those who still communicate with dan have him contact mr monroe and give his take on prrm/smmw. thats as fair and balanced as one can be.
i had a lengthy telecon with scott monroe the assistant editor
of the stowe register newspaper yesterday. gave him my history with prrm/smmw and all pertinent data and all pr's. he was assigned to this by the owner mr biddle duke. if anyone has any info they would like to share with him both of the positive and negative category they can do so maybe this will be the thing needed for all.
scottatstoweregisterdotcom
the stowe reporter seems very interested in summus and things may get interesting soon. einstein need not apply.
alien
whenever the situation dictates you have contrarian views and that i very much appreciate and respect. do you have any idea on why gorbec/illum/rj are now missing in action on the ihub boards? seems strange they all quit simultaniously.
kind of reminds me of your sharing in frank olsens milk of kindness back in old ps
bobky this is only the begining of the end. im sure this will get deleted but i assure you its about to get much worse.
bobky
i believe you may be connecting the dots. its smoke and mirrors. summus is now a shell. dan is divesting of all interest. soon will r/s and sell the shell. you guys have been had. and the worst is yet to come i assure you. that im working on and will update next week.
its very much so worse than even i a critic thought.
i just had a long conversation thirty minutes with the publisher of the stowe reporter in stowe vermont regards summus and dan burgess. gave him the short version on prrm/smmw. he was amazed and in disbelief. the wheels are in motion for more investigation. they are as we speak on it and verifying everything i told him. i also gave him data on other investigations and the world of pink sheet stocks. sure glad i made that call. the publisher is biddle duke.
i suggest all who want a good overview on summus and its officers to just research real estate records for the stowe vt area both individual and corporate transactions. you will see who owned what, when. where,lien holder and dates...
is there an ongoing sec investigation and dan is cooperating?
anyone know anything about this?
ehhhhh i know
wam
gorddon
being the stock is kind of in the doldrums may i make a suggestion or two. all summus shareholders do as last year and
each announce your share count. both then and now. that will show those dastardly mm that you are united. your not going to take it. united you stand. put them in the corner. against the ropes. once they see the awesome numbers they will run for cover. who knows this thing could run to a dollar. maybe five.
another thought is have a summus party weekly and each bring a covered dish. two dollar per person cover charge. use proceeds to buy summus stock. that two will send shivers thru the mm spines. its not a field of dreams. it is doable.
also i see the whole fooods inc ceo got caught on line slaming his rivals business. you dont think....naw...
was dan in wash dc two weeks ago?
are we busy with the pm's....
was dan in washington dc a couple of weeks ago?
ot
srjrfan how is your father doing? thanks...
gorbec
im waiting
gorbec
are you privy to the fact their is an ongoing sec investigation and that dan and company are cooperating? where did you get that information? is the investigation still active? what where they investigating? when did this take place?
inquiring minds want to know.
what was dan going to use the money for that he was wanting to borrow from friends of mine using a stowe property as collateral? why would he not go to a bank due they had all of this revenue and employees? these questions have not and will not go away.
ive never until now seen a ceo get kudos from shareholders for paying franchise taxes less than 300 dollars. that constitutes the works of a good ceo?
what was dan going to do with that money he wanted to borrow?
and had dan been borrowing money in the past from that lady in stowe? i believe the answer is yes. what was that money used for. this is from dans lips not mine.; all archived and documented.
some points to ponder regarding summus and its ceo.
in 2q2005 dan said he had 40 employees plus interns and seven million in revs. where are those employees today? how many employees do they have? where is summus physical office? what was fifty billion shares spent on? why not release exerts of irs financials until audited financials are available?
if they had all this going for them why did he come to me needing short term money? why and for what was he going to do with that money? he was going to use a home in stowe as collateral. all documented and archived. what is current
a/s and o/s. numbers done jive.
lots of unanswered questions. do your dd before buying this stock.
1. is there an ongoing sec investigation?
2. is summus releasing audited financials after 30 plus months of prmising said financials?
3. what is the current a/s and o/s?
4. what does summus currently own and not own?
5. is dan still making slected phone calls to selected individuals? is that illegal?
6. will this message get delted?
to item six id say yes.
rj
the stock you ask about yesterday. im holding 500,000 shares for about three weeks.
those are valie questions for newbies who are dd'ing summus and also valid questions for share holders. the bare basics
ceo's should want their stockholders to know.
if they arent available how do you do dd. summus has no office and in april of 2005 they had offices in stowe and over 40 employees and now that office is closed and no stowe employees. sure are lots of unanswered questions to ponder when doing the dd on summus.
does anyone know when dan is going to report financials for summus?
when is the going to account for the last 50 billion shares of
common stock?
when is the going to account for the preferred stock?
when he is going to tell where summus offices are located, number of employees, profits and losses?
i know he will for the is a righteous ceo.
again gorbec you either do not read what i say or misconstruce intentionally. metrozz worked on the rubber recycling business and told dan about a small radio station in atlanta texas. i was working on a abc network tv station in south louisiana that i knew was for sale. dan immediately wanted the tv station and was bringing consultants on the rubber recycling plant. i did not know until after the fact about the radio station. its so small i think it has a rev stream of about 800 grand profitable but small. supports one family in ne texas. have never met him or his people. dont know them in any way whatsoever. i worked on the abc project with a friend who was an executive with abc and since retired. this was a plum to be had. revs of 20 million. as is the rubber recycling plant. which as we speak is making a group good profits. either one of those was worth more than all of summus combined as we speak. instead you have no clue what summus owns and any rev streams if any. zero accountiability for monies and stocks. if he would have been legit these two we put together would be highly profitable and making money for all including summus stock holders. there was no insider whealing and dealing. all of this is on the prrm/board. and smmw. nothing new here . you need to dd this before making accusations or misconstrueing and twisting facts. whats the old addage never let the truth get in the way of a newspaper story..
to all the pm's thanks restores my faith in humanity. and for your father he will be in my prayers. i have a brother fighting heart disease. for the one who lost both parents may god help you thru such a loss. for all on this board i have no ill will with one exception and he knows who he is. blatant lies are no way to try and make a profit. rj you know who he is.
as for my history with prrm/smmw i received some very negative accusations which are blatant lies. you know who you are. you can go back to rb board starting with prrm and then smmw. i owned 70 per cent of my stock before ever talking to dan and i owned 90 per cent before the rubber recycling and abc tv station ever came up. check my old post in 2005. everything dan told got reported within 48 hours with exception to the two projects metrozz and i were working on. he was working on the rubber reycling plant and i and a friend with abc network on the louisiana deal. i personally was paying for the hotel and food for dan and two other gents. i told dan when he brought up the finders fee if they came to fruition i wanted nothing but for the other two yes i wanted them to receive compensation. a figure never came out. metrozz mention to dan a small radio station which ive never been to and never have met the owner.
it was never about the money i lost. ive been blessed financially. 5400 dollars was the loss. its about the lies and deceit. the kopp appointment. not even enough money in the corporate coffers to pay regular bills and wasting my and friends time and efforts when he knew he was all about lies.
as for gorbecs assertion dan doesnt read these boards thats another lie. if dan told you that hes a liar. all i have stated is on the prrm/smmw board.
and gorbec at no time did i say i was suing summus and dan. you assumed that. thru friends with much more muscle than the courts
i turned all data over to them. its a work in progress. ways and means will be his downfall. its time consuming but effective.
rj now that you know were the sec investigation lie came from what are your thoughts on this individual. do your self a favor and distance yourself from him. in more ways than one you will be thankful.
another investor who i found to be totally honest and with integrity was mugsy i believe he is a good friend of tonysib. those two also i regret they got sucked into this quigmire as i did. good luck too all.. and god bless.
i maybe should clarify my position and intentions. i wish none on this board any ill will except one who is a blatant liar and he knows who he is. i wish all to make millions on this and other stocks. my issue is solely with dan. he was a liar and my opinion hasnt changed. there is not a more honorable man on this earth than metrozz from the rb board. he and i put a lot of time and effort into prrm/smmw in 2005. and then for him to do all of his wall street bs via phone conversations and email
and then to find out hes using his home for collateral and couldnt get a dime from the banks. i may have a lot of short comings but iam reasonable honest. i will if i live long enought make dan rue the day he knew me. dishonesty and high rolling doesnt fit my life.
as for health im a two time cancer survivor and doing good. thanks for the pm's.
rj now that you know were the sec lie came from i think you should keep that consideration with you 24/7.
good luck to all and god bless
again for the newbies i did not use in my opinion. everything i said was archived and documented from feb 2005 forward. dan is a liar. he has my email and home addy and telly so im no hard to find. he also knows via one of our telly conversations who my friend is with ways and means. he iss a liar and ill see this thru to the end.
how many thousands of post have rj and gorbec made in the last two weeks.
rjtroots
your post had a lot of data in it but to the best of my ability
i will give an overview and a conclusion. i bought this stock starting in 2004. i got to about 350 million shares. i owned a little over 70 per cent of it before i ever talked to dan. i bought all at .0001 except my 5400 dollar loss at .0002. dan lied repeatedly to me at the end of our relationship. all which can be seen on prrm/smmw board. at any give time i have a 250,000 in my tdameritrade acct. i was long on the stock market before dan and will be playing high risk stocks till health stops me. we put a lot of time and effort into collecting data
on two companies. metrozz worked on rubber recycling plant and i worked on the abc television station that was for sale. i now retired vp with the station also worked on it. and we as you can read on rb board in july 2006 was putting them up at the horseshoe in bossier city la out of our pockets. every single thing dan told me was put on the rb board prrm/smmw within 24 hours with the exception of the two companies above. and then to think this two bit jerk comes to me wanting to borrow money
due the obvious he could not borrow from banks. he had been borrowing from a lady in the stowe area using real estate as
collateral. after it was obvious we had been had i balied the first time i was able in july of 2006. i said then and i say now dan is a liar. he was then broke and grabing at straws
making selected phone calls to selected individuals. sounds like what hes doing in june 2007. i will say again if dan follws thru and becomes a fully reporting company and accounts for all monies and stocks i will come to this board and congratulate you the stockholders. i said it in 2006. ill be curious as to how many of the pumpers will be around after the next rush of .0001's. as i said before and i do not use in my opinion dan is a liar and i will see it to its end. there are ways and means who have been friends of mine for over twenty years.
to the ihub board. ask dan has he been using his home in stowe in the past as collateral for interim loans in 05 and 06. couldnt get loans using summus and their holdings. is that good dd. tells you a lot. ask him who the lady was he was borrowing from. this is all archived and documented. does he presently still own the home in stowe. the webb gets very tangled does it not. at that time he supposedly had all of those employees and large rev streams. is he a good ceo or what.
sold all in july of 2006 net loss about 5400 bucks broke even on the .0001's and lost 5400 on the 0002's its all on the smmw board.
the end item for this individual and if they have been truthful many others on this and other boards dan has made many statements on financials and loi's in my case not only that but some blatant lies. the bottom line it doesnt matter what this company does or does not own what matters is p&l. if there isnt a profit eventually it will fail. ask enron bagholders. some who were friends of mine. you have a very flawed individual who is ceo of this company who lied to the wrong investor. ME. i will see it to the end.
why do you say in your opinion. why doesnt the state know this has been paid. how many years now in arrears. all of your mindless drivel is always in dreams or private sources or in my opinion. you tell me how to do dd on this company. no office no phone no ir firm back taxes unpaid. telling people about skishop. that has nothing to do with summus. its privfately owned. your dog not only dont hunt but has major flea infestation. oh also dont continue with the pm's they also have zero cause and effect. just cowboy up and post on the public board and try to use no imo's. ditto for rj
for the moderator i have never bashed anyone and have never cut and paste from other boards so you should ask your assistants why my messages would be deleted. back to dan and summus.
in 2005 dan told me he had 40 employees and the interns working for summus at that time still prrm. he had companies he was buying in california and south caroline and colo with ten million in revs anually. none of this happened. from first quarter of 2005 he was working feverishly on becoming fully reporting company but lawyers and then accountants holding him up. same accounting firm as ed hayter of accr/ican/ibcx fame. two years later this has not come to fruition. what happened to the movie back country was going to film with roger moore. what happened to summus offices. what happened to 40 plus employees. what happened to becoming fully reporting company. at one time i told dan just put out a rudimentary financial with audited fot follow using your irs financials. if their is a good financial stream why cant they keep the charter. is it 350 thousand now or 700 thousand. does anyone know where the monies went with the 35 billion bloat in the last 30 months. does anybody know precisely what summus currently owns. does dan have a home in stowe. no one but dan. and if that is the sign of a good ceo to invest in spare me.
for rj how can you do dd on this company if you are a newbie and their is no phone no office no ir firm and zero accountability...
why did he come to me inquiring about short term money he wanted to borrow after blowing smoke for weeks on end.
now as in 2005 we have3 shareholders selected getting selected phone calls.. way to go rj.
good deal he has my address and telly and email addy. as do
ways and means. ill bet i dont hear. again i said hes a liar.
ill see this to a legal end be assured.
in 2005 he had the same accounting firm as ed hayter. they were good friends . i hope the end of this stock doesnt resemble accr/ican/ibcx
rj you notice i did not like you and gorby say all in my opinion. i said dan is a liar. he has my name and addy and telly and he can get lawyers or any goverment agency on me in a second if hes legitimate. i am truly sorry i have no respect for what you have gotten involved in. couldnt care less about gorby. and another tonysib i do believe hes honorable and i feel sorry on his behalf.
rj you know and i know their is no sec investigation. iam going to givwe you a in depth response on raging bull. if i post it here it will just get deleted. iam truly sorry to see you in
on this pump. whats different now than 1q of 2005. slected phone calls to selected individuals. all lies from dans mouth.
whats changed. he told me dozens of times the audit and becoming
fully reporting was asap and cited auditirs and lawyers as obstacles. since then the bloat is up about 35 billion. zero accountiability for shares or monies. now you dont even know what the company owns. the ne magazine no one knows circulation. dan selling skishop to summus and he owns part of it. if its so profitable why would he sell it. sorry rj but ive lost my respect for you. the sec investigation is a lie but
i assure you the ways and means is not and it is in progress as we speak. this may get deleted but i will not go away. dan will bite the proverbiable bullet on this one.
rj/illum
is there any truth to the sec investigating summus and that
dan is cooperating? what a tangled webb we weave.
i think ways and means are on the case.
what a tangled webb we weave...