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King...Exactly, I was thinking that Intel would buy us out due to several reasons and still may but George has been pi$$ed on and isn't about to roll over and play dead like I thought prior. He can be just as spiteful when he gets pi$$ed.
I doubt HDC will mess with Quirk further unless Quirk pushes HDC, I mean Quirk has more to gain by blending into the woodwork.
We will probably license instead of allowing a buyout.
"No doubt I owe George H. McGovern another apology".
I feel pretty good considering the entire scope...You must be baiting me...I did the first HDC share count over on Raging Bull many years ago, we were "Direct Wireless" back in the early days, I would phone Bob Braswell who was the President or VP back then those were the days. Back then I believe our O/S was like 4.3 million shares or that was the float. Our CEO - Williams at the time pulled a fast one just prior Barnhill coming on board and split the stock creating shares for themselves. Barnhill was President then because CEO and did a number to get their shares returned to the registry and that went pretty well aside from Bill Williams and his wife Shirley. It has been a very long 17 years 2 months wait for me.
There was a retiring analyst back in late 2002 or early 2003 that was his job to find the early gems for a company he had worked for. He had died years ago or I would never post this. He gave me several company names and mentioned that Dr. Barnhill had these technologies that would change mathematics in a huge way. That was hard to grasp and probably for many it still is but back in 2002/03 could you imagine these technologies back then? This is why I mention through the years the timing verses the technologies. If that is wrong a company can pound sand day in and day out. Our newer and newest patents are going are going to be pushed down the throat of the Intel Corporation and they are going to ask George H. McGovern III how many gold and platinum bricks do we have to pass to make you and all your retail shareholders happy. George will say just keep on grunting and passing them but make sure you have those two Chinese Inventors who copied our patents to wash and dry those golden bricks then address them to each and every Health Discovery Corporation Shareholder.
Intel is probably at our CEO's house right now serving lunch. Yes, in this case it would be suicide for Intel to face a jury trial.
Now what you said about our patent basically shutting down the chip that isn't so. Our patent or patents are being used "generally" to enhance ( my wording.)
I want people to stop and really read the 144 page complaint, understand the massive reach and strongly consider the iron clad complaint and the many times HDC has tried to get them (Intel) to collaborate with us. I won't even mess around with the scrum tactics they has used on us.
It is great the past 9-10 years of goodies that hopefully will pay to HDC from Intel.
What is spectacular is not only how those past 9-10 year but it branches around the entire world and that will continual and grow into many new areas.
I just wish this was late 1999 right now as of stock/company would run like the Big "Q" did years ago. Maybe some don't recall "Qualcomm"
We still should do fine but who really knows until it is done.
I keep on thinking, Intel is also located in China and their Inventors copied our patent years ago so just how vast are those royalties?
I believe Intel if not already will be contacting HDC shortly
The .20 cent may not even be a factor nor does the 2 trades mean it was retail. I have mixed feelings about it but $100k plus is worth the pull especially if you have several million shares. It is all numbers that can disappear in a heartbeat unless you pull it off the table. I watched 20k short of half a million that never came back to me so you just don't know the circumstance "if it was a retail investor that may have sold" nor their holdings.
I am just smiling wondering if that seller is the person from Ocala, Florida. Now if so I'm happy for him. I do know he was more than a typical investor but still a retail investor.
HDVY was huge years ago but SVM wasn't widely used, our original SVM patents were too far ahead of their time, and for most development products. The SVM-RFE is prime time but actually it was getting primed 9 years ago so back pay with interest will do for a start.
It is well needed since many of us have suffered for so long but the suit is only starting but Intel knows us well that we are not about to fold our cards.
Try watching this for 17 years 2 months like some of us, yes we as Investors are well done and it is time for Intel to serve us longs.
King...I have a big M501 printer and won't use a damn monitor to read documents plus back issues, would rather read in comfort in the living room. I wanted so badly to post a few things but held back. I can't express enough the importance of you to read the document. Yes I still have questions and concerns but plan on talking with another investor today or perhaps by Monday to get his take on what I am thinking.
King....you could probably get a good idea by the 144 page document under Count 1 45.The 188 patent is well-known in the SVM-RFE industry. It has been cited in at least 77 U.S. patents and patent applications, including patents and patent applications filed by industry leaders such as Google Inc., Microsoft Corporation, General Electric Company, and Siemens Ag.
First things first, plus you could be opening a can of worms in some ways.
Why would INTEL rather buy us out?
Just for starters......(3) nearly a decade, and its willingness to invalidate its own patent in exchange for the PTO invalidating the HDC patents, demonstrate that the opposite is true, and that Intel has and continues to use the SVM-RFE technology – a technology patented and owned by HDC.
MBMoney...if only you would post a few of the past "elites"
Yes, I really don't believe we are done with NeoGenomic. A side from that isn't there a few in the background involving deals such as GE Health. I also recall 2 other corporations way back that dealt with Barnhill. It seems to me why not kick Intel's a$$ again or at least go out trying and smiling instead of crying and wishing. I would think NeoGenomics CEO "Doug" has many regrets, who knows maybe he is looking over his shoulder.
What happens if in the end we decide to let Intel buys us out? Will "Intel" clean up the rest of the varmints that might be using our technology/patents?
Maybe they "The Varmints" should also pay up and get in the licensing line before HDC files suit on them too!
Also...who in hell might be using our BIOMARKERS?
Yes King, 3rd day w/45 minute rule.
General I would believe that but Intel has stalled HDC prior and doubt they will pull that in the same manner. Just looking at the complaint you can see HDC and Intel are not strangers and when the Jurors hear the crap Intel pulled!!!! You see it was the main fault (prior) that the USPTO screwed up issuing the patent to Intel in the first place but Intel's assign inventor copied our art work except in 1 area and Intel had to know this.
With Intel knowingly stalling and throwing everything even their kitchen sink at HDC they couldn't keep the patent. It is ours and was extended like an additional 5 years or so plus we have modified the SVM-RFE patent even further. So in short it is pain to see that Intel screwed us intentionally.
Once the Jurors hear that BS I don't believe the jury needs to stick around for 5 or 6 years.
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We all know Intel isn't the only one as discussed years ago but check out SVM-RFE patents at http://www.freepatentsonline.com/ and see direct conflicts.
Here is a list of the present dealings in some way involving Intel
Patents, 7,117,188 ... 7,542,959 ... 8,095,483 ... (10,402,685 - Modified & Supersized in a big way.)
King...will send you a PM after 4 pm today.
King...isn't that the truth and a damn shame, I'm gone as soon as I can break even....just that simple. It will be nice to not have any reason to ever post here again except to say hello from time to time to other longs.
Damn...I always forget something in my posts....is it possible that a few corporations that knowingly are using our technology may now decide to talk & license our technology?
Just a quick note as I just rolled out of bed...it is about time HDC!
Ok, now HDC probably figures they will go broke prior to any court payment and doubt Intel will pay royalties. I figure the possibility of Intel buying us out that is focused on the last modification of our latest patent.
Another quick thought is massive pressure is on HDC to do something I'm sure they read these threads. This may or may not ease other present suits.
The last quick message is the thought that HDC had to throw something to us investors and know it is a crap shot to even come out of this still wearing a shirt.
Yes it is about time period to make or break HDC for better or worse.
re: The HDC Shareholders letter back on 12/06/19
At the bottom of the second page as follows...........
With regard to future development opportunities, we have been in discussions to identify areas of collaboration with a medical and bioinformatics research institution. The specific areas under discussion include image processing and analysis, flow cytometry, cytogenetics, uses of SVM-RFE in medical research and prostate cancer. If successful, this collaboration could help open new areas of commercial development for our Company. Although these discussions are highly promising and continuing, we cannot be sure of success.
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I would like to know what medical institute and why haven't they been successful?
So why can't HDC identify the so called medical BIO institute? Why would that be a damn secret!
King...I know what you feel but NEO had massive tests prior HDC technology plus management and of course ways to raise money. HDC never had this chance but yes HDC sucks!
MBMoney, at the very least HDC must have talked with all our patent professionals including Dr. Albitar. I'm guessing besides poor management and money that our patents are simply too few and to close to end of life to risk a lawsuit however, I wish I knew more on why our various inventors "may" have never guided HDC towards successful options.
A clear point as you already know...look at Dr. Hong Zhang after all these years, just "how" HDC uses him. Is it HDC that figures Dr. Zhang is better than nothing or is Dr. Zhang using HDC.
From all that I read I believe our technology is too far out dated, sounds a bit like our management. If our technology was worthy then why does HDC suck wind.
Actually it was John many many years ago who called this for what it is! I believe Terry also felt the same yet he actually held an investment here. John traded this many many time over and made some good money.
It is us sorry a$$ believers that never want to throw in the towel that got screwed in a big way.
Will we get screwed a tiny bit more or a little less?....your call!
Hey, no doubt some type of humor is needed in this crappy investment...you recall holding the bag? The bag is gone and the crap is on our hands.
HDVY..................
re: post by "GB"
GB...come on, what good would it do to storm HDC offices?
In the first place if you think George is using the Georgia office "physically" think again. I believe he is using a space at his house which is legal but if not a space somewhat near his home in Pennsylvania.
I do wonder if Mark Moore is going after several years of $120k back pay since I see no 8-K that HDC ever filed stating he is no longer our Vice President. Hey! let's not forget about his options too.
Now think about this?...have you ever heard anything from Honk Zhang Ph.D (NOPE) yet they are paying him something correct? Now Mark Moore also has a Ph.D plus his yearly salary was $120k and possibly HDC may owe him back pay and maybe options.
Hold on here how about our back pay, we have had to stomach all this for 17 years or so. Why in the world doesn't HDC pay us by simply leasing our so called SVM-RFE patents that we are so the only ones in the world that have patents on this...cough cough!
Maybe somewhere in the filings it shows that Mark totally left the company but here we go again as the crap gets thrown.
Just because SVM Capital had been thrashed that is another issue. It was stated Mark was the VP of HDC which has another twist.
Is HDC greasing Quirk and possible Mark next or is George on the level. Stay tune for the next adventure of HDC
...also make sure you go the "DeKalb" County Georgia not "Fulton to check this out.
I'm sure by Tuesday that HDC will file a 8-K.
No doubt price of eggs...I mean stock will be going down....
Use this website access to records in DeKalb County, GA "Superior Court"
https://ody.dekalbcountyga.gov/portal/?clearSession=True
Mark Moore, I hope you do well in your pursuit, maybe you can shake HDC from their false thrown. I was surprised to see the complaint worded as such which seems pretty heavy. a few of us will be watching closely.
Yes, filed yesterday!
Good Sport....sure NEO is $36 per share but Dr. Albitar did not screw HDC. I'm sure HDC wasn't even geared or really ready for Dr. Albitar to come aboard in the first place. Actually if it weren't for Dr Albitar we would have never won the case. I don't like saying so but even Dr. Hong Zhang helped us win the case referencing NEO however, this all sucks doesn't it? Why would HDC allow Dr. Albitar to "totally and exclusively" be hired by NEO and a clear separation between Dr. Albitar and HDC was noted in a direct PR by NeoGenomic Corporation long ago when he was hired by NEO. Nope! not Dr. Albitar's doing at all it is as usual.... HDC always tripping over themselves.
Nah........just George getting pissed at Quirk.
Yesterday, 7-9-2020 the HDC case was finally transferred officially. According to rule 1004. Was transferred to business case division and assigned to Honorable Eric A. Richardson business court 1.
The Business Case Division was first established in 2005 and quickly developed a strong reputation for promptly and efficiently resolving complex commercial disputes. Formerly known as the Fulton County Superior Court Business Case Division, MABCD provides judicial attention, expertise, and administration of certain business cases filed in the superior and state courts of participating metro Atlanta counties. While the Division strives to rule on motions within 30 days of the motion being fully briefed and heard, the average time for resolution in 2018 was,on average approximately 17 days. Additionally,the Court serves to retain legal business in the State and aids in the development of a robust body of business case law in Georgia.For more information and resources, please visit our website at http://www.fultoncourt.org/business/
Dr. Hong Zhang, why are you letting HDC use you? You are the Scientific Officer of HDC. Look at what HDC paid you in 2019 verses the directors. Where some were paid around $147k and you, as our company officer paid a total of $50k, is that correct? I thought officers always were paid more than typical directors.
Yes I see it, 2018 pay to you was very insulting? Why in the world would you still consider being the Scientific Officer in HDC? What are investors missing? Why (if I read correctly) that HDC has the only SVM-RFE patents in the world that no one wants to do business with us? Is it possible that our SVM-RFE patents are not worth anything?
You understand our patents far more than our CEO, Officer or director of HDC yet you were paid $50k in 2019 and the directors were paid around 3 times as much as you?
WOW! that sure should ring a few bells and turn heads with Exhibit B shareholders, it does with shareholders in this message thread.
I wonder? excuse me from thinking as it is hard for this old layman man but maybe Dr Albitar could enlighten up out day.
King, a bit of kindle here and a bit of kindle there and eventually a match will start the fire? I figure there are a few heavy weights on Exhibit B shareholder list that are doing a bit more than just talking.
Now Now, don't be so negative you will make the share price drop further, hey! I figure if we wait another 17 years something is bound to happen in a positive manner.
Take time to read this and ask yourself does this sound like our CEO? The one that wouldn't give the time of day to answer shareholders question during the last meeting.
https://97c708a5-4b71-452a-a913-9d2088df68ca.filesusr.com/ugd/5a27d7_fde33bdc98e44dc2bb8b29e91ab4fb9c.pdf
I think not, do we have an imposter?...did something happen to George besides Quirk? Maybe we should have a little fun and lighten up the day....Take the letters from the name "George" and "Quirk"...that is 11 letters, now see how many words you can make with these letters.
Top prize will be "D" series shares, as many as you can carry.
Yes indeed SVM Capital Llc seemed to be two timing us? recall Hong Zhang being like a fly on the wall? No doubt he was moving around and maybe even two timing George. Anyways here is a re-post of something mentioned prior.
From message post 14573
Mark Moore, since this is all spilled milk what fund was that trading?
In January 2007, SVM Capital, LLC was formed as a joint venture between HDC and Atlantic Alpha Strategies, LLC (“Atlantic Alpha”) to explore and exploit the potential applicability of our SVM technology to quantitative investment management techniques. Atlantic Alpha’s management has over thirty years of experience in commodity and futures trading. Atlantic Alpha reports that the SVM technology is now working well with dynamic time series for S&P data accumulated over the past fifty-eight years as well as a limited pilot program of real-time trading activity, and that the latest SVM-derived models generated by SVM Capital have successfully outperformed the static buy-and-hold model both in increased returns as well as in reduced risk. After more than 2 years of successful live trading, Atlantic Alpha has now deployed the SVM K-2 model to over 30 securities. These include nation ETF’s, large cap equities and commodities. Atlantic Alpha is now exclusively trading SVM’s K-2 model and will begin offering this technology to the public via a new fund which began trading in January 2011. HDC owns a 45% equity position in SVM Capital.
BTW...something smells
ZEE..over in HDC message board on Yahoo, George H. McGovern III is not the son of the Democrat Senator George McGovern who was a Presidential Candidate in 1972. George H McGovern II, father of our CEO ran a business and took kids for rides in his airplane many many years ago. This is all the deeper that I will post about him or family.
MBMoney....see, George got pissed at what you posted here so he is dumping some of his shares.
Philly...my friend, if Quirk and Exhibit B shareholders aren't moving on HDC then the few of us here make very little difference.
I mentioned flying to Georgia so I can look at the person who seems to be screwing us! I don't have that many shares it is the principle of all this crap.
MBMoney....that sounds good to me. I will fly to Georgia for this meeting too.
On another note please tell ZEE over on Yahoo that the MM's are not manipulating the stock price it is what we are worth due to the inability of good management.
You know what is really strange? Everyone can recall the Barnhill shuffle and all the past directors that have come and gone. We were so worried about all the monies paid to all these guys right? Well, it appears in the end that George will make out better than any of them and he doesn’t have to lift a finger, just kick back as he has and let all this run its course then file bankruptcy. Of course I could be wrong since our SVM-RFE patent is worth billions of dollars yet we don’t have any takers do we?
How did everyone like reading in the 10-Q about COVID-19 possibly hurting our chances. I would love to have our CEO explain that one like, everything we have seen has been normal nothing business. Must be a do nothing democrat. Hey all in joking George I mean we need to vent as we don’t have any “D” series shares. 21 million shares x 10 equals 210 million shares voting rights, now add your common shares. Now doesn’t that sound a bit heavy handed? I’m sincerely not sure about my figuring so if I am wrong accept my apology.
No doubt someone knows something right? we moved up .0005 and traded 10k shares, only a matter of time before we break a dollar per share.
Maybe a buyout soon?
I see we haven’t trade shares today so that must mean HDC has Intel and Neogenomic Corporation on the ropes. I gather finally after 17 years we will soon be bought out. What do you figure our shares are really worth, I mean we are the only company in the world that has SVM-RFE patents right? That must mean massive income for the company and us shareholders right?
King Oil…I got the trading all figured out…we have 37600 cliff climbers scared to climb any higher than .0130 and we have 64000 who are afraid of dying if they dare jump from .0150, it looks like everyone decided it was siesta time.