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My friends, from our S7 partner --
The road to 800G Ethernet
Even as 400G Ethernet adoption continues to grow, in the world’s biggest data centers, the 800G Era has officially begun. It’s now just a matter of time before service providers and other large network operators follow suit. It’s happening more quickly than expected, and explosive growth in next-generation applications — especially artificial intelligence (AI) — is the biggest reason.
https://www.5gtechnologyworld.com/how-ieee-802-3df-brings-800g-ethernet-to-life/
I do not deal in derivatives, only equity ownership positions.
How does one human posting on an Internet stock board "cause" another human to buy shares in a stock? That is quite amazing. I didn't know humans had that kind of supernatural power.
Your source of information, SEV123, is impeccable, it would seem.
Ah, yes, I see. Thank you Jeff. I do understand it is frustrating to wait and watch an investment go in a way different from what we expect. Still, one can only do what one can in the now, and now is a good time even if then was not. I did purchase significant shares in the recent turn, and my contacts in the industry view this as a very large opportunity.
My friend I but replied to a fallacious statement made by another member. Was I to leave it even though it was false?
My goodness. The convertible note was paid via share assignments, not cash payouts!
Why, I just now realized, you folks have no idea what you hold, do you? If only you had known, you'd not fret! My dear folks, but you sit upon a gold mine.
Inside AI factories and fully functioning by the 4th quarter. Not shipped then.
My friends, some of you are mistakenly assuming true 800GbE AI infrastructure has begun already. It is a known between all our partners that this will be available in the 4th quarter.
The answer given directly from industry partners --
AI in Q4 of 2024
Some of you have spoken to this. I can confirm, from a source, there is merit to your assessments.
In terms of NVLink networking, in the GB200 NVL72 single-cabinet solution, the computing nodes within the cabinet are interconnected with the NVLink Switch using copper cables, without the need for optical-electrical signal conversion, which is consistent with the previous GH200 cabinet interconnection solution. However, in certain high-performance AI computing scenarios, the fifth-generation NVLink can be used to achieve high-speed interconnection of up to 8 GB200 NVL72 systems (576 Blackwell GPUs). When interconnecting GB200 NVL72 cabinets based on NVLink, two-by-two interconnection can use LACC copper connections,
You should not take anything I post as gospel. I simply post what I learn. You should cross-research everything I write.
Earlier I reported your company should ship 800GbE between July and Sept. It is now narrowed down from industry updates --
the new system is set for production shipments starting in the second quarter and will ramp in the third quarter
Your company will move to the U.S. exchange and its securities be governed by the SEC --
Shelf Registration. After the Company becomes subject to the Reporting Requirements of
the U.S. Exchange Act, the Manager Group Permitted Holders shall have the right to
require the Company at any time and from time to time to file a Registration Statement,
including a Registration Statement covering the resale of all Registrable Securities on a
delayed or continuous basis, on Form F-1 or Form F-3 Registration Statement or such other
form of registration statement that may be available at such time for the resale of the
Registrable Securities by the Manager Group Permitted Holders (a “Shelf Registration
Statement”), and take such other steps as may be necessary to register the Distribution in
the United States of all or any portion of the Registrable Securities held by the Manager
Group Permitted Holders (a “Shelf Registration”), by giving a notice with the information
required in Section 6.1(b) to the Company. Upon exercise of a Shelf Registration right, the
Company shall use its commercially reasonable efforts to file within 30 days after receipt
of the Request a Shelf Registration Statement relating to such Shelf Registration and cause
such Shelf Registration Statement to become effective under the U.S. Securities Act,
Your new group of Lead Investors purchased $4.1 million of the company and shall remain unnamed. They will have certain special rights of directorships and may place a named person on the Board and will have special rights at time of registration onto a U.S. exchange in the future. Your company is now under the control of well funded persons. You may all now relax and enjoy what is to transpire.
My friend you have just shown you simply do not understand analog chip design at all. And by the way, Raouf Halim is still your company's CEO, and no I am not he.
Did you not get the memo my friends? Blackwell and its 800GbE networking will be inside Microsoft Azure and Oracle by their [Nvidia's] fourth fiscal quarter which begins in November. That translates into infrastructure orders beginning between July and September. It is now just May.
Nvidia also surprised analysts by giving an aggressive timeline for its next-generation GPU, called Blackwell, which will be available in data centers in the fiscal fourth quarter. Those comments allayed fears of a slowdown as companies wait for the latest technology.
From our friends across the pond, IEEE 802.3df has been ratified, 800GbE set to go --
the initial IEEE 802.3dj 1.6T and 200G per lane technology adoption timelines may be delayed. Reasons include IEEE 802.3dj schedule delays, a focus on deploying 800G for AI/ML
A hot topic among OFC attendees was alternative paths to 1.6T. Instead of doubling the number of bits, the number of electrical lanes can be doubled from 8 to 16 using OSFP-XD technology. OSFP-XD offers 1.6T density with 16 lanes of 100G and the potential for 3.2T density with 16 lanes of 200G. Using 16 lanes of 100G would be an option for hyperscalers.
Last month, the IEEE ratified 802.3df, the 800G Ethernet rate, 100G electrical lane architecture standards. Just as with 400G, the industry is rallying and converging quickly on the technology now that standards are completed. Vendors are rushing to demonstrate they are compliant with the 100G lane architecture.
https://www.spirent.com/blogs/ai-ml-was-ready-for-its-closeup-at-ofc-2024
Some answers from our friends down the road-
How NVIDIA GB200 Utilizes 800G/1.6T DAC/ACC
NVIDIA has released the latest GB200 series compute systems, with significantly improved performance. These systems utilize both copper and optical interconnects, leading to much discussion in the market about the evolution of “copper” and “optical” technologies.
Current Situation: The GB200 (including the previous GH200) series is NVIDIA’s “superchip” system. Compared to traditional servers, the system has a larger granularity, with 36 or 72 GPUs connected primarily using electrical signals within the cabinet. Externally, they employ both NVLink and InfiniBand networks.
The choice between copper and optical is essentially a tradeoff between distance and speed.
The market’s understanding of the increase in copper interconnects is due to:
Previously, the H100 series clusters did not have intra-cabinet interconnects, but rather a separate network cabinet, and the chip rate was relatively high, so there was almost no short-distance copper wire.
While for the GB200 series, although there are many copper wires within the cabinet, the demand for optical interconnects in large clusters, such as the NVLink domain and the optical interconnect expansion of IB, is very large, and the future path of silicon photonics and chip-to-chip optical I/O is already very clear.
Q: What is the role of the IP architecture in the GB200 series?
A: For some large customers who need cross-cabinet connections, the IP architecture is used for external connections. However, the difference between GB200 and GB200 lies in the internal connections. GB200 uses m link electrical connections (i.e., copper interconnects between GPU and switch), rather than the backplane connection method of last year. Huang particularly emphasized the advantages of copper interconnects in cost reduction and performance demonstration at the conference.
gb200
Q: At the GTC conference, Jensen Huang gave a special explanation of the copper interconnect solution, what are its advantages?
A: This is the first time that the copper interconnect solution has been specifically explained at such an important conference, which is also a point of great concern to everyone. The GPUs are connected through the mlink, confirming the use of copper interconnects, and their product solution may be similar to last year’s backplane connection method. Huang emphasized the advantages of copper interconnects in cost reduction and performance demonstration.
Q: What is the impact of the launch of the GB200 series on the market?
A: As NVIDIA’s new generation of server-level GPU chips, the GB200 series’ performance and efficiency improvements will have a significant impact on the market. Particularly, its adoption of the copper interconnect solution may change the internal connection method of GPU clusters, reducing costs and improving performance. Furthermore, the GB200 may change the design and deployment of data centers, further driving the development of artificial intelligence and cloud computing.
Q: What are the advantages of the GB200 copper interconnect?
A: Highlights of the GB200 launch: The GB200 single chip contains 2 GPUs and 1 CPU, and the main product launched is a single cabinet product composed of 36 GB200 chips. This shows that NVIDIA is focusing on electrical interconnects (mlink) rather than optical interconnect technology. Market promotion and expectations: GB200 will be widely applied, in contrast to the GH200 which has not been widely adopted. According to Huang’s speech at the conference, multiple potential major customers suggest that GB200 has high volume expectations. The market generally believes that the promotion of GB200 may lead to a gradual increase in the ratio of optical modules to GPUs from 1:2.5 to 1:9, and the sales volume of GB200 next year may have great growth potential.
GB200 computing cluster network architecture
Q: What are the main differences between GB200 and GH200?
A: The main difference is that the GH series is not a high-volume product, while GB200 has a wide range of potential customers, including Google, Meta, OpenAI, Microsoft, Oracle, and Tesla. This means GB200 will see widespread application and high-volume adoption.
Q: What type of interconnect solution did GB200 adopt?
A: GB200 adopted a copper interconnect solution, which reduces costs. Especially with the high-volume adoption of GB200, this will become an important factor driving the increase in demand for optical modules.
Q: What industry trend did Huang’s presentation at the conference reflect?
A: His presentation at the conference can be seen as a reflection of an industry trend, not just a short-term hot topic. Over time, the industry will observe the performance delivery of the relevant companies. The market previously had debates on copper vs. optical interconnect solutions, but now it has been confirmed that GB200 adopted the copper interconnect solution.
Q: What is the market prospect for the copper interconnect solution?
A: The market’s attitude towards the copper interconnect solution is changing. The fact that GB200 adopted the copper interconnect solution indicates that this solution may see wider application in the future. With the performance delivery of the relevant companies, the market prospect of the copper interconnect solution is worth looking forward to.
Q: What are the main differences between GB200 and GH200?
A: The main difference is that the GH series is not a high-volume product, while GB200 has a wide range of potential customers, including Google, Meta, OpenAI, Microsoft, Oracle, and Tesla. This means GB200 will see widespread application and high-volume adoption.
As of today your company is officially debt free. Pathfinder Asset Management was your largest shareholder. Soon you will see if they were also your 'Lead' investor. Keep your eyes on the filings.
Large investor owning majority shares in this case is very good, not bad. Before this PP management and one other medium investor were the only ones with skin in the game to assure its continued survival at whatever cost. Now a large institution owns much of the shares and will assure a well funded corporation until profits remove that need.
You misunderstand my friend. Available share amounts for management are limited when large investors want to own large portions. And one large investor wanted to own a very large portion.
But you can also consult an Oracle to divine more information.
I can Azure you things are going on.
This is imminent, my friends. This raise was not to "keep the lights on" as has been thrown around here. The amount raised would only be sufficient to do that for a year if there were no sales upcoming. Nay my friends this is the funding for the ramp you have been waiting for for a very long time.
KCCO, your numbers are spot on. It is very close to 80 million fully diluted today. Again, this number will rise to, possibly, over 400 million, fully diluted. We are comfortable with that figure, as we believe the end market is more than large enough to justify it.
It looks like the debentures will be converted at about 75% of face value to share count. Also, please note that there are more than 40 million shares, fully diluted, today. In the end, there may well be over 400 million shares, fully diluted. We do not see that as a problem for the continued operations and ultimate success of the company. In due time, the 400 million plus share count will have little affect as the end markets will justify it.
I will reiterate what I posted first thing this morning: Expensive PP, but it just saved your company.
You are correct, and it will likely be more like 300-400 million outstanding if they complete a second tranche. But still a good buy today. Again, a good buy today.
Two things: First, would you have preferred shutting it down instead? Second, the congratulations goes to those buying recently and today. So there will be as many as several hundred million shares outstanding in the end. So what? There are large, major corporations across the US today with 1.5 Billion shares outstanding. Their worth is based on what they sell. When this company starts selling what we see coming, even 500 million shares out will still bring it to over a dollar. So, yes, congratulations to those buying recently and today.
An outright sale could have been forced, but there is just too much potential in this issue to have given up tremendous future profits. This is something we have been watching for some time. Now it is finally structured correctly for the long term growth management has wanted since inception. Congratulations shareholders, those who held on, or those who purchased recently. You are finally sitting on an actual gold mine.
Expensive PP, but it just saved your company.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'm sensing a lot of hostility. I posted information I gathered from the MD&A. It sure looks like management is still supporting this with their actions and their wallets. That's what management does when they see great potential. That's all
I'm sorry, what?
'As of April 29, 2024, the Company owes an aggregate of $540,000 to the Director Lenders (the “Director Loans”)'
They just made these loans in the past weeks. They have deep pockets. They believe in this and will continue to fund it until such time that it grows on its own, which will begin shortly.
These are opinions.