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They're having a shareholders conference, so what? It will change nothing to the positive.
StayHumble seems like that special kind of person who still lives with Mom who bought him 250 shares of HCMC and he's just forever so excited about it all. He's definitely special. And some day those 250 shares of HCMC are gonna make him and Mom rich! He's got faith!
What about dilution that they ILUS do not talk about?
Well like they always said, if everything isn't making sense then just follow the money. Money is being made, profits are being had, contracts are moving all over the place like drones in the sky, but shareholders are conveniently locked out of everything. Locked out of knowledge, truth, money, info, investing etc...
I mean QIND they're said to be an A&M corp. but still, where's the action on the ground?
They buy companies that are doing what, where, for who & and how much for how long?
Can anybody tell me who exactly pays QIND & for what? How much did they get paid and for what services or materials exactly? They say they're in the oil & gas industry. Who are their customers exactly? I've tried to find out on my own but no luck. All so vague & ambiguous. I see profits on paper but nobodies asking how exactly. Could it simply be money being pumped in from say Saudi Arabia to accounts and from there simply and vaguely on paper as profits. In short, who is QIND, who pays them and what do they pay QIND for?
Who, how much, when,& for what for? Somebody help me understand. Yes, I own 350K shares of ILUS, and yes I'm way, way down.
I've also had similar thoughts & questions about ILUS itself.
Just a good question.
I guess you could say scammed. What I think is the movement of all assets that we now own to a new company that we practically do not own at all is a form of thievery right before us. It may be legal thievery or it may not be legal thievery. I understand the risk of investing in OTC stocks or any stocks for that matter, and I'm not whining about being down in value but these guys are just taking what's ours and making it practically all theirs.
What's the logic behind it all? Their smart & crafty but it's not a logical good move for the company of HCMC. I think you can see the play here. They're playing that some will think that the PM lawsuit is worth it while others think that they're actually getting/receiving a dividend. HAL pays me a real dividend almost every quarter, but they don't rearrange my investment to 1 71,000th of original value for it. I think we are all due a much higher share count per share. Maybe 4,000 HCMC for every 1 share HCWC.
I'm thinking it may be becoming time to have a lawyer / firm look at it.
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That's right. As the executives sell their Billions of HCMC shares they're gutting and taking everything within HCMC that has worth, profits or could profit along with a millions in cash from HCMC and putting it all in to THEIR new company HCWC that THEY call a spin-off when really it's a rip-off. In return for stealing our company / investments they're going to GIVE us a said dividend. That dividend equates to 1 share of HCWC for every 71,000 shares of HCMC that they stole from you. I say stole because they literally took anything of real value from us and are leaving us holding / owning a dead & hollow company listed as HCMC. For example I own 16,511,100 shares @ .0007. I will receive only 232 shares of their new company listed as HCWC. Sure I can buy more shares of HCWC but the problem is that I've already paid for them once but somebody stole them. They stole our investments and just renamed it effectively speaking. HCWC is HCMC. It's being stolen effectively speaking. Once this goes through HCMC has nothing at all, therefore you have nothing at all, except for 1 71,000th of your investment in the form of HCWC as your HCMC will be forever dead & gone soon. Do we consider a class action?
Right now I'd rather the law firm take the money over the thieves at HCMC executives.
Let one shark hit the other shark.
That's right. As the executives sell their Billions of HCMC shares they're gutting and taking everything within HCMC that has worth, profits or could profit along with a millions in cash from HCMC and putting it all in to THEIR new company HCWC that THEY call a spin-off when really it's a rip-off. In return for stealing our company / investments they're going to GIVE us a said dividend. That dividend equates to 1 share of HCWC for every 71,000 shares of HCMC that they stole from you. I say stole because they literally took anything of real value from us and are leaving us holding / owning a dead & hollow company listed as HCMC. For example I own 16,511,100 shares @ .0007. I will receive only 232 shares of their new company listed as HCWC. Sure I can buy more shares of HCWC but the problem is that I've already paid for them once but somebody stole them. They stole our investments and just renamed it effectively speaking. HCWC is HCMC. It's being stolen effectively speaking. Once this goes through HCMC has nothing at all, therefore you have nothing at all, except for 1 71,000th of your investment in the form of HCWC as your HCMC will be forever dead & gone soon. Do we consider a class action?
I guess you could say scammed. What I think is the movement of all assets that we now own to a new company that we practically do not own at all is a form of thievery right before us. It may be legal thievery or it may not be legal thievery. I understand the risk of investing in OTC stocks or any stocks for that matter, and I'm not whining about being down in value but these guys are just taking what's ours and making it practically all theirs.
What's the logic behind it all? Their smart & crafty but it's not a logical good move for the company of HCMC. I think you can see the play here. They're playing that some will think that the PM lawsuit is worth it while others think that they're actually getting/receiving a dividend. HAL pays me a real dividend almost every quarter, but they don't rearrange my investment to 1 71,000th of original value for it. I think we are all due a much higher share count per share. Maybe 4,000 HCMC for every 1 share HCWC.
I'm thinking it may be becoming time to have a lawyer / firm look at it.
Based on what? Seriously, what makes you think that? What am I missing?
Based on what? Seriously, what makes you think that? What am I missing?
There is no long term when it comes to HCMC as it will be dead and gone soon. In the mean time the dead stock price bounces around .0001 - .0000005. Is that what success looks like?
HCMC now has nothing but a losing lawsuit against the mighty Big Tobacco Phillip Morris.
And as it stands right now, tiny & dead HCMC doesn't even have a patent for their patent infringement claims in the case against mighty Big Tobacco Phillip Morris.
I've lost all and any faith in this said company and I regret owning 16,511,100 shares of this dead & corrupt POS.
I guess you could say scammed. What I think is the movement of all assets that we now own to a new company that we practically do not own at all is a form of thievery right before us. It may be legal thievery or it may not be legal thievery. I understand the risk of investing in OTC stocks or any stocks for that matter, and I'm not whining about being down in value but these guys are just taking what's ours and making it practically all theirs.
What's the logic behind it all? Their smart & crafty but it's not a logical good move for the company of HCMC. I think you can see the play here. They're playing that some will think that the PM lawsuit is worth it while others think that they're actually getting/receiving a dividend. HAL pays me a real dividend almost every quarter, but they don't rearrange my investment to 1 71,000th of original value for it. I think we are all due a much higher share count per share. Maybe 4,000 HCMC for every 1 share HCWC.
I'm thinking it may be becoming time to have a lawyer/firm look at it.
That's right. As the executives sell their Billions of HCMC shares they're gutting and taking everything within HCMC that has worth, profits or could profit along with millions in cash from HCMC and putting it all in to THEIR new company HCWC that THEY call a spin-off when really it's a rip-off. In return for stealing our company / investments they're going to GIVE us a said dividend. That dividend equates to 1 share of HCWC for every 71,000 shares of HCMC that they stole from you. I say stole because they literally took anything of real value from us and are leaving us holding / owning a dead & hollow company listed as HCMC. For example I own 16,511,100 shares @ .0007. I will receive only 232 shares of their new company listed as HCWC. Sure I can buy more shares of HCWC but the problem is that I've already paid for them once but somebody stole them. They stole our investments and just renamed it effectively speaking. HCWC is HCMC. It's being stolen effectively speaking. Once this goes through HCMC has nothing at all, therefore you have nothing at all, except for 1 71,000th of your investment in the form of HCWC as your HCMC will be forever dead & gone soon. -Just my opinion. -Do we consider a class action?
That's right. As the executives sell their Billions of HCMC shares they're gutting and taking everything within HCMC that has worth, profits or could profit along with a millions in cash from HCMC and putting it all in to THEIR new company HCWC that THEY call a spin-off when really it's a rip-off. In return for stealing our company / investments they're going to GIVE us a said dividend. That dividend equates to 1 share of HCWC for every 71,000 shares of HCMC that they stole from you. I say stole because they literally took anything of real value from us and are leaving us holding / owning a dead & hollow company listed as HCMC. For example I own 16,511,100 shares @ .0007. I will receive only 232 shares of their new company listed as HCWC. Sure I can buy more shares of HCWC but the problem is that I've already paid for them once but somebody stole them. They stole our investments and just renamed it effectively speaking. HCWC is HCMC. It's being stolen effectively speaking. Once this goes through HCMC has nothing at all, therefore you have nothing at all, except for 1 71,000th of your investment in the form of HCWC as your HCMC will be forever dead & gone soon. Do we consider a class action?
No I don't believe you're correct on that. HCMC won the appeal to re-open the case overall but during the time it took for that HCMC lost it's patent. Right now currently HCMC has no patent to claim possession of.
Currently HCMC does not own or no longer owns the patent of & for the patent infringement case against big tobacco Phillip Morris. What say you?
I fear that you are correct. I actually believe that you're probably correct. It seems like we may be getting manipulated and / or ripped off.
SO ON 4/9/23
JEFF HOLMAN DUMPED OVER 24B IN STOCK
ALONG WITH FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ??
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SO ON 4/9/23
JEFF HOLMAN DUMPED OVER 24B IN STOCK
ALONG WITH FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ??
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*Please read :This is not a good deal for me or you. My 16,511,100 shares of HCMC @ .0007 per share will leave me with 232 chicken shit shares of HCWC and a dead & worthless hollowed out HCMC. They're taking anything good / profitable out of HCMC and putting it all in to HCWC while leaving HCMC with nothing but junk until HCMC ends up paying for PM's expensive legal team in a lawsuit they won't win. They're taking my profiting investment from me (HCMC) and justifying it with a cheesy ripoff ratio of 71,000 to 1 (HCWC). I almost want to and will consider opening up a class action lawsuit on the management team of HCMC! What do you think?
This is not a good deal for me. My 16,511,100 shares of HCMC @ .0007 per share will leave me with 232 chicken shit shares of HCWC and a dead & worthless hollowed out HCMC. They're taking anything good / profitable out of HCMC and putting it all in to HCWC while leaving HCMC with nothing but junk until HCMC ends up paying for PM's expensive legal team in a lawsuit they won't win. They're taking my profiting investment from me (HCMC) and justifying it with a cheesy ripoff ratio of 71,000 to 1 (HCWC). I almost want to and will consider opening up a class action lawsuit on the management team of HCMC! What do you think?
I agree, we are getting the shaft on the share ratio. I agree 100% with everything you said in this post. They're running away with our investments in a not so sly kind of way practically speaking.
Thank you!
Okay, now I've read or heard something about possibly being able to buy CYBL in Canada. I'm a US citizen in the US. Where and what service do you use? Can I use it here in the states? I wonder how that would impact my taxes on the investment possibly being an international purchase. Can you tell me what service you use? Thank you for your time.
We can't buy CYBL right now because of CE, but somebody's buying it somewhere. That's why the stock price goes up of course. So who, where & how are they buying it?
Hello. With the CE, where or how can I buy this stock currently?