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>>>Has she ever officially addressed shareholders (other than a few mostly condescending, cowardly words on social media)?<<<
Finally someone here that sees what this leadership is about. Her responses to disappointed stockholders when confronted, is condensing. As if they have no right questioning her about how bad their investment in this company is doing. So very unprofessional. She puts herself on facebook where she is accessible to criticism, yet she cannot handle that justifiable criticism professionally, when it comes at her. She should stay off facebook if that is the case.
As far as addressing shareholders, there have not been any official PR's for quite sometime. Even their financials have to be searched and found out by the stockholders due to no more PR's. This never resembled a professional leadership IMO and only has deteriorated since the now self appointed one took the CEO position.
IMO THIS was the most damaging, unprofessional and shady act of carrot dangling from this CEO, when she allowed THIS to be announced to the stockholders in 2022:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2023/8/20/yeqevsynergy.jpeg
And never has she given an excuse or explained why this has never occurred. I am sure she thought that in 18 months no one would remember it.
That corporate communication was dated:
>>>Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:16 AM<<<
Enough said ---- another failure,
Sold one helluva lot, didn't they? Sold a helluva lot from those distributors I referenced also, no? That was pretty impressive list of distributors ALL OVER THE WORLD --- NO? Now please tell everyone that the SYNERGY deal was also legit but also FAILED to sell. Maybe THEY went out of business also before they could commence selling product. Curious if it was legit and failed to start, why hasn't the CEO reported that to the stockholders. Pretty important information, especially when she allowed that SYNERGY hype to be announced to the stockholders. Her only response when asked, was that she would comment on that deal when she got the OK from the BOD. Remember? You DO know SHE is/was on the BOD with her MOM at that time. YEP, joke of a BOD!
PS. Perhaps you would like to tell us all again how much better we should feel that this trading .0001 point higher. Now bid is at .0002 and ask is .0003. Yep, that .0003 should excite all the stockholders, as if THAT stock price is NOT a JOKE!
2 hours left in the trading day and we have only a $2.00 trade of 10,000 shares @ .0002. ----- just sayin
LOL, no one that is negative on this stock here, is 'shorting' it. Let's be real. The posts that are negative are true, as the performance of this company and stock price exemplify. No one is trying to bring down that stock price to make money on a short position. This company does a great job of doing that themselves with the lack of PR communication to stockholders, discontinuance of quarterly reports, financials that show a net loss year after year for over 20 years. Not to mention announcing distributors that have never materialized, like Mundipharma and THIS: https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2023/8/20/yeqevsynergy.jpeg! ---- along with a list of distributors they had on their website for years in countries all over the world like THIS: https://www.bielcorp.com/distributors.
>>>Life goes quickly and BIEL is a good stock to invest in if you are planning to retiresmile<<
Have you read the financials? The annual one for 2023, as they have stopped issuing quarterly reports. You really should before making statements like that.
>>>I “criticize” those trying to negatively influence my investment<<<
That's what you think for those that post all the negatives of the company? Really? You think we really care about YOUR investment. LOL, NO, we counter all the laughable euphoria by those that try feebly to tell others how great this is for an investment. Who is really trying to influence? There are still a few here that have been pumping this crap from high double zeros for quite sometime, all the way down to the lowest of lows stock price of .0001. Many others have seen all the wrong from this company leadership and have exited. Tiresome to see that this pumping continues over the years with all that has gone wrong. Yes, this board needs a dose of reality. And the REALITY is that this has been a total failure for YEARS and the market agrees with THAT, as this has traded at ROCK BOTTOM and in the triple zeros for quite sometime. No one is trying to influence anyone.
But PLEASE, keep pumping a stock and a company that has never reported a profit in over twenty years in business and criticizing any and all that point out that FACT.
Here's some others supposedly 'selling' Actipatch, that have been listed on their website for years. Not on Amazon, but where are the sales? Pretty impressive list of distributors all over the world, no? Were they really selling or was this more 'carrot dangling'? If they were selling, they were not selling much, no?
https://www.bielcorp.com/distributors/
>>>same old tired spew.<<<<
Yeah, but pretty important 'spew' ------- ya think? Tells investors, present and potential, WHY this is trading at 2 ticks from ROCK BOTTOM.
>>>Now quote me and break it down because you’re the best analyst we’ve ever had on this board.<<<
Ok thank you for giving me the opportunity to do so. The 'breakdown' of this company financials are as follows:
2023 financial statements:
NET LOSS for the year of $722,812. Another annual loss to continue the streak of NEVER an annual profit in over twenty years in business.
Due to those losses they have an 'accumulated deficit' of $39,814,199 .
They have assets of $144,388 and liabilities of $16,478,419. That is an asset / liability ratio of 1:114. Yep for every dollar they own they owe $114.
They had on the books, as of date of financials, $4686
They have $12,529,631 in notes payable. ALL have matured but had to be extended due to lack of funds (see 'cash on hand'). Many of those are family notes that convert to common stock.
They have 25 BILLION outstanding shares that have just about maxed out the authorized shares. So for note conversions to happen, they will have to increase the A/S to add to that O/S. ie DILUTION.
For reasons unexplained, they have discontinued filing quarterly reports and only now annually, it appears. So all stockholders will have to wait til 2025 to see if 2024 is any better or worse.
Pretty UGLY, NO? If you do not see that or do not understand them, ask any accounting 101 student and they will tell you how bad they are. And the reason why this is trading 2 ticks from ROCK BOTTOM.
Have a great day!
https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/397773/content
>>>these sales are not part of the Amazon ranking either.<<<
That is quite a list. But if all those distributors are true and are selling product, they ARE part of the total sales of the company that are not improving and cannot produce a company profit. So really, are the sales from any of them, substantial? ----- I think not.
So basically, investors are putting their 'hope' and 'prayers' for this company, on acceptance by the government in January due to the 'No Pain Act'. Seems like another of the 'carrot dangling' that we have seen so often in the past.--- ie USA FDA Clearance for all muscle and joint pain that produced ($) nothing for this company - OPIOID Challenge that they failed on - SYNERGY, MUNDIPHARMA and other distributors announced all over the world that were either a lie, never happened or produced squat - Rumored buyouts by the BIG BOYS (ie Bayer) - Believing this leadership and hoping that statements like THIS would be true: "2022 will be the year for BIEL". How did THAT work out?
This company is good at one thing and that is getting many investors, as the 'pie in the sky' crowd, to believe all that carrot dangling ---- time and time again.
Wake me up when there is GREEN on the bottom line of the income statement. Because for over twenty years of being in business with all that 'carrot dangling', all I see is RED!
Yep, go to page 77, Actipatch first one mentioned. NO coverage.
https://www.cms.gov/files/document/graham-pain-management-study.pdf
>>>just looking at the chart alone, its obvious this could double, even triple in the coming days or weeks<<<
Wait for .0001 where it has traded at recently and that might come true.
That always makes me laugh when I read THAT told to someone that is down on their investment: "it is not a loss until you sell" LOL, that is a cop out answer. They ARE LOSING money. Tell those that are looking at their portfolio, that it is NOT lower due to this investment in BIEL. They ARE losing money as of now, due to that investment -- especially the 'true longs' that have been pumping this crap stock for YEARS when it has traded much higher than from where it is trading now: 2 ticks from ROCK BOTTOM!
Yes, it is an unrealized loss as of now, for accounting purposes, only because it is not sold it yet. But it IS, as of now--- a LOSS! Unless of course one has bought this ONLY at .0001 or .0002.
>>>This is such a great BIEL factual read, I’m going to make it a stickie.<<<
Since YOU (apparently) are in charge of stickies, have you stickied the 2023 financials? I would think that is important information for this board to read for those wanting to invest and are invested.
Yeah -------- I didn't think so!
>>>"our beloved Biel"<<< ---- .0003
No problem when she leaves. I am sure we will see those that proclaim that to be a positive, as she will help Bioelectronics on the other side of curtain, like when we have heard about the 'positive' of losing the sales rep and working for another company. LOL, how did THAT work out?
No matter what the concerning news, we will will always have the 'pie in the sky' crowd shining a bright light on that and everything BIEL.
Is anyone really surprised? She will probably use the same excuse she has used in the past on other matters of concern, when asked: 'lack of funds'
Probably the same reason why patents expired.
>>>I would also not waste my valuable time on this earth spewing daily negativity.<<<
You mean like the pumpers that pump daily for years and tell investors to BUY, BUY, BUY even as the stock price keeps sliding and the company net losses pile up, year after year? Like them?
Sounds like you are a little upset. But I understand, this cannot be going well for you and need to vent, as this is trading at two ticks from ROCK BOTTOM. But if you want to know why it is trading there, maybe you should read those financials I was talking about.
"influence"?? - I'd say: "inform"
Have a great day!
>>>Newbies, are you ready for some BIEL???<<<
'Newbies', are you ready for some facts that show WHY this company is trading at the bottom? Read the financials that this company reports. The annual one because this company does not report quarterly anymore. Note that they have shown another NET LOSS to add to every other year they have been in business (over 20 years). Note the asset/liability ratio that shows laughably more they owe than what they own. Note the note loans of over $12,000,000 that have all come due but unable to be paid off. Note the 'cash on hand that is the reason why they were not paid off. Note that many of those note/loans convert to common stock that will add to the already ridiculously high amount of 25 BILLION shares.
Yes, Newbies and all others, do your research.
WOW, nice to see that someone gets it! ---- Especially that second paragraph:
"Investors/shareholders are part owners of the company. As such, they have the right to comment on company operations. Management that doesn't respect shareholders' rights should not be running a publicly traded company. Demanding patience and faith in the CEO, as if she is some sort of God, are ridiculous when the pps languishes at .0001, rock bottom, worst in the company's history."
Pretty sad that so many others do not see this and even praise a leadership while their investment is bleeding out.
>>>BTW, I've been told two more military families are committed to buying what sounds like a significant number of share. I've been told the quoted poster has really pissed them off with his belief Phantom Limb Pain is fake. Looks like word is spreading on this poster's character.
I guess will see in the coming days if this comes to fruition.<<<
Is THAT a THREAT!!!!!!?????
>>>I, like anyone else who has a reliable source were able to read and understand the financials<<<
So you really do NOT understand financial statements, since you need a "reliable source". That makes sense now. But please for your own sake, get rid of that "reliable source" that helps you understand, because if they said there is NO problem after reading them, they are NOT too 'reliable'. LOL!
Still trading two ticks from ROCK BOTTOM!
>>>I, like anyone else who has a reliable source were able to read and understand the financials as soon as they were released many months ago. I, like many many other investors decided to hold on to hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of MILLIONS of shares.<<<
Really, you understand the financials and you are OK. YOU and many others? Really? Sorry to hear that you and "many others" have held. That cannot be good, NO? Stock price has plummeted like a rock and you are STILL holding tight to your shares? That cannot be good. This has dropped from high double zeros down to where it is trading now LOW TRIPLE ZEROS and TWO ticks from trading at ROCK BOTTOM, where it HAS traded recently. This is lowest point of this investment in years! But please hold on tight and ignore those ugly numbers in the financials that you said you have read and understand, because really, they mean nothing, right? Maybe you and "many others" that have held, is because at this LOWEST point of a stock price, it cannot get much worse, NO?
But on second thought, it could get worse, as we dare say if they ever file that dreaded ----- well you know!
So, I guess by that rebuttal, I will have to take that as ---- you have NOT read the financials or you do NOT understand them? --- NO?
LOL, don't recall being in this conversation, but that is what happens when one has psychological 'obsession' problems --- one keeps bringing up those 'obsessions'. But since you have brought it up, why do they call it 'phantom'? And have you read those financials yet? Did you get that accounting 101 student to explain them to you? Pretty UGLY, NO? Did you see that they have reported another NET LOSS? This year for $722,812. Add THAT to all the other years of losses in over 20 years and they have an accumulated deficit of $39,814,199. That can't be good, NO? Did you see that laughable asset/liability ratio of 1:115. Yep, 115 TIMES more they OWE than what they OWN! That can't be good, NO? Did you see that the family has note loans that have ALL come due but still on the books due to seriously insufficient funds to pay them off (see 'cash on hand of $4686)?. That can't be good, NO? Did you see that most notes convert to common stock, but there is not enough authorized shares to accommodate those conversions? So increasing the authorized shares will have to occur for that to happen and that DILUTION is always frowned upon by the market, NO?
All a little concerning , NO? LOL!
Thank you again for giving me the opportunity to post these numbers here again, for any existing and/or potential investors.
Have a great day!
Sincerely,
Mr. FUN GUY ----------- cause reading your posts, ARE!
>>>Might sound crazy, but more likely the goal is to be bought by some other company who will sell and market the product.<<<
And what would a company pay to buy this little company that has never had a profit in any year for over twenty years and has amassed losses to the amount of an 'accumulated deficit' of over $39,000,000. Right now this is valued by the market at $7,500,000. Would they pay THAT for a losing money company? And THAT is with calculating 25 BILLION shares outstanding. When those notes convert to common stock, 25 BILLION will increase. And also, do NOT FORGET all those notes and loans from family and Staelin will have to get paid first before the stockholders get to see anything. Over $12,000,000 worth!
Bulgaria!??? ---- Here's a list of distributors they have had on their website for years. Impressive, isn't it? Where are the sales?
https://www.bielcorp.com/distributors/
bobby, when it comes to 'buy'/'sells', 'neutral' refers to a trade that settles between the 'bid' and the 'ask'. For example, if the 'bid is .0003 and the ask is .0004, a trade at .00035 is a neutral trade. So ANY trade that is settled between the 'bid' and 'ask' is considered a 'neutral'.
>>>...... but I don't have any faith in this company.<<<
You are NOT alone, the 'market' is with you! ------ ie .0003 (2 ticks from ROCK BOTTOM) ---- OUCH!
>>>No need to panic or spread anything that's not based on facts.<<<
Yeah, those 'facts' in the financials say more than enough about the dire state this company is in. It doesn't need rumors to show any more how bad this is, as those facts in the financials are more than enough, IMO.
>>>we are a long way past the days folks were calculating profits from the proposed 975,000 units the Synergy deal was to generate.<<<
Great post, all true! Especially the above quote. After THAT, would any news from this company (CEO or STAELIN) really generate any serious excitement? Would anyone believe again what this leadership says, would be 100% true? With the very amateur and shady attempt at generating interest with that Synergy announcement, why would anyone get excited or ever believe another hype by this company leadership. Stockholders need to see verifiable positive news to get their confidence in this company back, because as the sinking stock price shows, THAT is wading since it was proven that the Synergy deal never materialized. Shame on this leadership to feel that such a unprofessional act of such, would fool all their stockholders and their would be no consequences or repercussions, for when that announcement was proven to be a lie.
Financials are the only facts that imo stockholders should believe. And as of what they show, that surely is not helping in gaining any of that confidence back. And to make matters worse stockholders have to wait yearly to find out those facts.
Honestly, could any publicly traded company be more amateur than THIS?
LMAO, where is the stock price trading at? Where and when is the annual income statement going to show a PROFIT and not a LOSS, because THAT is all that matters to the stockholders and potential investors. THAT is what they want to see and THAT is why this is trading now, very close to ROCK BOTTOM where it HAS traded recently! Until stockholders see accomplishments on THAT, she has accomplished NOTHING!
WOW!!!
Another with obsession with posters! All that work to go and research something that I have admitted many times here on this board. This should be no surprise to anyone that has been here for years. Yes, I WAS invested and 'hoping' like many are now, that this would be a success. I used and still use the products for effective relief. So WHO is tho blame for this NOT SELLING? That is why I still follow this board. This should be no surprise to anyone that has been here as long as I have. BUT for ME, after years of seeing the futility of this leadership to accomplish what all stockholders need to see and all the mistakes made by that leadership, I am sure as heck not going to PRAISE THEM. I read this board because it is just amazing how some still invested and have witnessed this major decline in stock price are STILL PRAISING her while their investment is sinking fast. THE CEO is responsible for the success of the company and must answer to the stockholders when it is NOT. And THIS CEO that has appointed herself the position with absolutely no qualifications, only gifted to her due to nepotism, is getting praised? Yet she is cheered daily. on and on! WOW! Yes, effective products that this leadership CANNOT sell enough of, to show a profit in ANY year in over 20 years. Who is to blame for THAT?
Since you love to do extensive research, perhaps you can tell us again how much more happy, investors should be when this is selling at .0004 and not.0003 like you have in the past on a .0001 point move in the stock price! WOW!
I would think you should have better research to do than OLD posts YEARS AGO ---- But anyway ---- GO KELLY !!!!! LOL, and thanks for the entertainment!!!
>>>We Keep Telling You Repeating Your Bullshit DOES_NOT_WORK!!<<<
Who is 'WE", the 'true longs' that have been pumping this crap daily for YEARS, trying to convince others to 'buy. buy, buy'?!! All the while, as the stock price is consistently going downhill. I don't know, but it sure seems like THAT 'BS' pumping is 'not working'.
Maybe some really are reading the financials and seeing how sad this is all going and they are 'selling, selling. selling'!
>>>Sorry if you sold for a loss.<<<
Pretty sure that should read, " Sorry for those that didn't sell at a much higher stock price and are still waiting for this to improve".
Those DOUBLE ZEROS that this traded at awhile ago, look pretty good now ---- NO?
>>>Quit before you make a bigger a_ _ out of yourself than you already have.<<<
You mean kinda like the 'pumpers' on this board that have been praising this company and its leadership continuously for YEARS, all the while as the stock price has plummeted from high double zeros down to here at 2 ticks from ROCK BOTTOM? All the while telling others to BUY? Bigger that that?