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SLJB blows now....
Ok, link is real. BUT, a company in another country can have the same name, doesn't mean they are the same. But ok, let's say this IS the same Sulja. Just because they filed the paperwork to incorporate doesn't mean they are, or ever will, do business. Post a link that shows the company doing business, i.e. an active lumberyard, or some other storefront. That may give it some credibility. But at present, SLJB is not doing business, until proven otherwise.
Fact, CEO said there were no deals, are no customers or operations. Fact, CEO has publicly stated that he was "duped", and as much as a few here call lible, the story has not been retracted or in any way changed. The company is dead, no business, no stores, no phone, no website, no customers....no chit. Those are facts, please feel free to fill in any facts that support an opposing viewpoint. Not hearsay, not IMO, but facts.
Agreed. Why would NSS sell at such high prices, when management was doing all it could to kill the PPS already??? Why not wait it out. The NSS thing doesn't wash. The investors started dumping, and my guess is a large portion of that was PV and crew cashing out whatever shares they had left, dumping the whole lot as fast as they could, knowing the gig was up.
Funny how the closer we come to the end of this, the grander and more outlandish the claims made by the rabid longs become. Nothing to back any of the grand claims. No supporting data. But mergers, aquisitions, million dollar deals and much more is just waiting for this investigation to end. Ohhh puleeeeeeze. Get a grip. Folks you lost your money, and the chance to reclaim any part of it is slipping away. Not that there will be much at these prices. Acually the only thing left here for most is a tax write off and a chance to learn a good lesson. I'm hoping that those that haven't done the latter, do so soon, for thier own good.
red, please post a link to a SLJB website where they are doing business. Or a phone number that I may call where I can order ANYTHING from them. Or an address where I may go to see what they are selling, and purchase it. None of these things exist, get a clue.
He IS the CEO, nd has stated that the company is dead. Do some DD and call him and get the facts from him personally. There is no reason in the world he can't have a seperate business, even as the CEO, even if the company was operating, which it isn't. Having that company in no way makes it part of SLJB in any circumstance. Get a grip.
Sure they could. it would be proper and responcible for them to do so. The investigation is just that, an investigation. It does not hinder any proper and accurate PRs. The point is that if there were any such PRs, the company would release them. There are not. The CEO has told many people that he has no interest in keeping SLJB going. It has no customers, no contracts, no business, no open storefronts, no anything. Is is not operating, so has nothing to PR.
Yes, I am sure. I have spoken to SS, although it was a long while ago. But others continue to repeat the same things I heard from him then. He is the CEO, and he is done with this scam. There are not, and never were any deals. PV is out of the picture, he is in no way associated with SLJB. And if you read between the lines of the WS interview of SS, it would apear that he isn't happy with PV. Why would he continue to have a relationship with the man who ran his company into the ground, and didn't even finish paying him for it??? Now I personally believe there is more to all that than we are led to believe. SS is not the stupid patsy he would like us to believe he is. But regardless, this is done and over, just death shakes now. There is currently no income, no customers, no storefront, no web page, no anything. So just what exactly do you feel is going to happen??? For all intents and purposes there IS no SLJB. Just a little pink stock, which continues to trade (where it is allowed to) on fantasy and desperate dreams.
SLJB and PV are NOT the same, they have no current relationship, as per the CEO Steve Sulja. You just don't get that. SS does not WANT to do anything further with this scam.
Just not the ability, he is not the CEO, is not an officer of the company, and in no way controls it. The real CEO has stated on record that he has been duped, and that the deals were false. End of story.
Wrong, newspapers would not expose themselves to that kind of liability. If they are wrong, the potential liability is enormous. They directly quoted SS, and would be insane to lie about that. So your BS on that topic doesn't wash.
Based on what facts???
If good intentions mean they wanted to line their own pockets...I would agree. Good for them, not so good for shareholders. Have you even considered where that money may be??? They have creditors all around coming after them, rent not paid, no inventory to speak of, where exactly IS that money??? Have any answers??? I do...most likey offshore, and for the most part untouchable. It's all part of the scam.
Where did you get the info that the company is in "hush mode"??? They put out no PR that I can remember stating that. How is it that you speak for the company and seem to magically know what they are doing and why??? You have stated many things as fact that I cannot remember the company publicly releasing.... odd
You can keep pumping this POS, but you and just a few others are the only ones who believe it. You base your propaganda on nothing more than nothing, just like Petar. There is no evidence that anything positive is happening here, and much evidence to the contrary. You dispute facts that have been proven, and dismiss them. Maybe YOU need to call the CEO of this shell, and talk with him. Somehow I don't think even that will be enough for you. My perception is either you don't WANT to believe you were scammed, or this is all a game to you. I'm going to choose to believe it isn't a game, and make a recommendation to you. Today is Sunday, do a little praying maybe go to church, and I'm hoping for your sake and your familys, that you can find a bit of wisdom and grace to face reality. Because this ship has all but sunk, and you are choosing to go down with it.
He is included. If he's not a con, he's dumber than a box of rocks. To have allowed what he did, while he was CEO is criminal. If the same thing had happened to a major company like Disney, Microsoft, Exxon, or any other, the CEO would be strung up and likely charged. Take Enron, good example of what happens to crooked CEOs, or what SHOULD happen anyway.
Here's a pro....nice tax writeoff.....I guess that's a pro....
zero??? Just like the revenue stream for SLJB atm??? Just like the number of open storefronts??? Just like what your investment will soon be worth if you don't wake up???
If they are....should be no problem looking into one of those empty offices and see them. Nothing in the way...no people, no furniture...nothing at all....go look.
Sorry Frank, but it is fact that Sulja has no open locations, no operating website, hense no business, customers or income. It is fact that the CEO has publicly stated he was scammed, and if he was, so were the rest of us. I don't see what the OSC can possibly say in conclusion of it's investigation to change any of that.
IMO, there will be no PR. The company no longer exists, except on paper. They are doing no business, creditors are hovering, trying to get paid what is owed them. I have no idea what anyone that backs the company up is waiting for. The CEO has told the WS that he was duped, told someone else in a phone convo that he doesn't plan to revive the business.
Pretty much says it all....
lmao...you are amazing. In the face of the CEO, Steve Sulja saying he was scammed, you predict success. In spite of the fact that there are no employees, store locations, web site, business of any kind, you predict success. Just amazing...
This is a dead stock, the scam has run it's course...
Most are not reveling in it. We are trying to make sure more don't get scammed by the lies and pumps that have happened here in the past. There are some who still pump this POS, even though common sense says it was a scam.
red, please share with us why you believe these things. But I'll go first....
I believe SLJB is a scam because of the information put out by the OSC, i.e. the nominee accounts, the manipulation of the stock price, the deals that were PR'd that never happened (in fact they PR'd to not trust any of the previous PRs), the AF's that never happened, the accounting firms named by SLJB to DO the Af's, that denied any part in doing them, the fact that there are no open lumber yards currently, the business and assets are in recievership with creditors circling, Steve Sulja's last news paper interview basically saying he was duped....and much more.
Now your turn.... Please use facts that you are basing your opinions on, not the mumbo-jumbo you have been spouting.
The OSC clearing them at this point has no relevance. The business is not doing business, not the hundreds of millions of dollars a year they were PR'ing, and by the looks, not even enough to pay the rent.
But please tell us what is so spectacular about SLJB, I'm dying to know.
Why....well let me see...
WINDSOR, ON--(MARKET WIRE)--Jan 10, 2007 -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada) (Other OTC:SLJB.PK - News), today announced that, in consultation with outside counsel, it is undertaking a review of various issues relating to the issuance and trading of its common stock, as well as the accuracy of its prior public disclosures. Given the early stage of this review, the Company is unable to provide any further information regarding these matters, but cautions investors not to rely upon the press releases and other public statements previously issued by or on behalf of the Company.
Could THIS be the reason??? Where they said for investors to not rely on previously released PRs.....
Get a clue, and stop spouting nonsense.
SLJB retracted EVERY PR. Not one....EVERY one.
And the compny made it very clear to not believe any of the PR's it released.
I have spoken with him. They are looking for anyone with information to speak with. More specifically those that have had direct communication with Don and the company, either through emails or phone conversations.
Yes
Just what do you base any of that on??? You are making assumptions based on nothing. Some of that didn't even get PR'd. You are spouting opinion and guesses as though they were gosple. There is far more evidence that goes against what you are saying than there is to back up your assumptions.
What is it you are supporting??? There are no open storefronts that I know of. There is no web site, well that they are doing business on. What do you support??? Please explain....
Please post any shred of evidence of a short position. The company itself diluted the hell out of this a year ago, before the scam truly came to light. I believe that will be one of the things the OSC invetigation is going to bring to light. But again, that is NOT what is holding this stock back. Lack of business fundamentals is...
Sorry, I don't see it. This isn't about naked shorts. This is about a company that failed at every turn to do what they said they would do. A company that is now basically out of business, from all signs. What is going on with the stock price, stock volume, shorts, naked shorts, cease trade order, all of that, has NOTHING to do with the companys business and profitability. The companys business and profitability have EVERYTHING to do with all those other things. What everyone here should be concerned with is the truth. Because only that will allow you to make a good descision about your investment. I'm not sure why some here don't want to see whats going on. But I for one will remain, and provide an opposing and I hope logical balance to that rhetoric.
What really floors me is the ones backing up both PV and SS. Did you not read the interview SS gave to the Windsor Star??? The one where he basically stated that he was scammed, he never saw any concrete deals, nor any other ME deals... Wow, the CEO has no knowledge of any of the business deals the company PR'd. He also sold the company to PV and was never fully paid, according to him. Hmmm...tell me again what an upstanding guy PV is. So we have a clueless CEO, and a con artist. And this is the investment of the century??? I think not. This isn't about naked shorts.....get off that soap box. This is about a scam...plain and simple.
Ok, I asked for verifiable info...
The company does NOT appear to be active. Quite the opposite in my opinion. Any info with Leslie as a sourse is suspect, it cannot be trusted unless verified from outside the company. Her releasing info kind of steps outside the "silent mode" you refer to, does it not???
You keep saying the OSC investigation procludes the company from releasing information. No it does not, that is a crock of bull. If the company is doing business, that information could be released, as long as it was truthful. I'm getting tired of hearing that the investigations and the lawyers are hampering things, no they are not. The only way thats true is if the information they want to release is a lie. Any information about ongoing and upcoming business should not be hindered. So just give that crap up, it don't wash.
Ok, so lets go over your list...
1) The company is in recievership. This means someone (or many someones) is out to collect a debt that the company hasn't made good on. Negative information, no way this is a positive.
2) PV is full cooperating....hearsay. Not verifiable. And honestly has no bearing on the condition of the company. Neither does his legal representaion.
3) Not verifiable at this time. The recievership itself is a legal action. The company and it's assets have been taken and are being divided up by a representative of the court....hmmm...good thing??? Not at all. Also does not mean there cannot be in the future, or even that some aren't in the works now, my guess is there likely are. Just a guess.
4) Windsor Star being silent is neither good nor bad. There is no further news to print at this time apparently.
5) The stock is still trading, EXCEPT where it is under a cease trading order. So thats not totally true. Since we're talking about it trading, let's touch on the PPS, not much to say, it's fairly self expainatory.
6) There are still supporters. But why??? Thats what has me puzzled...look at the whole picture....hmmmmm....
7) SS is still CEO, is this a positive thing??? Look what happened on his watch, and he has admitted, publicly, he was clueless.
8) PV project??? What does this have to do with SLJB??? And even if it did, prove it is progressing. I could be mistaken, but I recall that there was some type of legal issue with that.
9) Kore has nothing to do with this stock, at least it shouldn't. Nothing verifiable there either, although I think I recall reading that the Kore offices were empty.
10) Not verifiable. Prove it's not an empty shell...it's in recievership, and it appears there isn't much to be recieved... hearsay. Where are those posters now??? Very silent atm. Who were they??? Sorry, to be honest, seeing all that has transpired since that visit, I have no faith there ever was a visit. It's an anonymous person on a bulletin board saying they did something. It's not verifiable. And lets say they did go, there may have still been some business going on at that time. It does not validify any statement the company has made.
11) Has he really??? Wow, thats a load off my mind!!! What do you expect??? For him to say, "yep, I ripped you all off". Did you read the statement SS made in the WS??? According to him PV never paid him all the money for the company. So who are you backing here??? Can't be both PV and SS, they aren't on the same side anymore.
12) Ok, that is just ludicris. Have you looked at the PPS??? Get a grip here. Besides, what do you base that on??? Not verifiable.
Soooo, still not a shred of positive info, and a whole lot of if's, could be's, maybe's, and just plain negative information.
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This is to any who continue to pump this stock. I keep hearing what an awesome investment it is, how the company is doing such a wonderful job....
I challenge you to post one just one, positive, verifiable piece of DD that supports that stand. Just one. Not company released material, unless you can show it's verified by an outside source.
You know, life is made up of descisions. You put every one of them on your mental scale, positives on one side, negatives on the other. Smart people rely on this scale and believe the results and act accordingly. There are times when things change, and the side the scale is leaning to can change as well. Smart people watch for this, and act upon these changes. Not so smart people lock themselves into a course of action and refuse to change. Refuse to believe they could have been wrong in the first place. Any reasonable person can see that there is not a shred of positive, verifiable info about sljb, and way too much negative info. Some are betting on a turnaround, and while I don't agree that it can happen, I can respect that. These are people who see the situation, see the dirt cheap stock price, and are hoping to make some money, knowing full well the current status. But the ones who keep touting this as the investment of the century, get help. Because your reasoning skills are faulty. You are financially dangerous, not only to yourselves and your families, but to new investors who may not know any better.
lol, wish mine was only $120 per. Mine is right around $500 per.
The thing is, it's not like the stock just didn't perform. That I could live with. Would still suck, but at least there is honesty in that. This most likely was a scam from the outset. It was planned this way, and we, the ones who bought in are the ones who pay. If whats coming out now is true, then Don made millions off this scam. I hate to say it, because it isn't a very humane and christian thing to say, but there is something to be said for old west style justice. Guys like this just would not have lasted long there. These penny stocks are a breeding ground for criminals and con artists. I've been involved now with 2 such cons, SLJB and this one. I did make just a little with SLJB, before the truth came out, and lost everything here. I'm waiting for the day when I turn on the news, and see that some scumbag pink sheet con artist was hunted down by an angry investor, and gets the justice that the law doesn't seem to be able to administer. In the society we are living in, I don't see that day being very far off. I hope that when it does happen, it opens the eyes of these criminals and makes them think about what they are doing. But somehow I doubt it will. They think they are above the law, and too smart to get caught. Don, I hope you're reading this. If what has come to light is true, and I believe it is, may you rot in hell. You've hurt many here, but I know in the end, there is a higher power you will answer to, and I think the price you will pay will be far greater than what you gained here.
Of course they will come up with nothing....
No cement deals
No expansion
No tire processing deal
No business generating income
No PRs that have had any truth to them
Nope, nothing there TO come up with....kinda the point....
What do you have to lose??? The last 5%
The REALLY awesome thing about the r/s is that the share price remains the same..lol....so now instead of over 17k shares of crap worth roughly $1.70, now I have 17 shares worth roughly nothing..lmao...and I was so counting on being able to get something from the dollar menu at Taco Bell tonight...