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"COMPLETELY WRONG, MOJO!"
how about just wrong?...lol
"Perhaps if you bothered to do so DD instead of bragging about NOT doing it, you wouldn't have made such a simple error"
im not sure d/d had anything to do with what was, as you said, "a simple error"....and no thanks, still aint gonna waste my time doing any d/d here...
"I said that KBLB was the first to use SIAL's CUSTOM zinc fingers service"
oh my gosh!...the super duper zinc fingers!..lol...whatever
It would be nice if we could accuse Kim of being a good CEO...kblb deserves one that knows how to "get er done"...kblb is a billion dollar sure thing and you think it's best to keep it all a very big secret..and that makes sense to you somehow?...lol...well you are going to just love the rest of the year...
Soon after the sial deal I questioned whether the ZF process would work...you said sial had already had a lot of success with it all over the place...now you say kblb may have been the first?...
I'm glad I don't rely much on the famed d/d of this board..lol
"Kim may be the kind of guy who returns favors even to the lowliest without fear of appearances. He could be a man of strong convictions and principles even when the appearance of what he does makes him look smaller in the eyes of his peers"
if thats the kind of guy kim is then kiss your money goodbye..and i will be trying as hard as i can to short this stock...
fortunately however, since he is a lawyer, hes more likely to be something quite different than what you think...or what he has protrayed to you..he would be much more likely to screw you out of your money than be what you think he is...
now thats the kind of guy id much rather deal with...the kind of guy who will kick the crap out of anyone who gets in the way of his success...or will steal your money...
it seems odd that everyone is so certain that kblb will make billions and yet everyone applauds kim for saving pennies...for going with bottom feeding lenders instead of legitimate ones...
if i was truly confident that i had a billion dollar sure thing in my hands and i just needed to get it off the ground...i would not hesitate to borrow the money necessary or sell shares to get the money i need to "get er done" asap.....
of course if i wasnt quite so sure, i would go slower and use my pennies carefully...
"Only thing that can be seen is that KBLB spent far less money to make a far superior product.
Now we have to see who can sell it"
i have heard that they inserted a spider gene into a silk worm that supposedly spun a strand of silk that was a combination of both...to my knowledge, nothing else that kblb claims has been independently proven...
i have not seen a product...i hear that they have something called monster silk that supposedly could be sold...but it hasnt been...i havent heard that they have proven that they could mass produce it either...i havent heard that they could mass produce anything as of yet...i havent heard that it can be woven into anything...i have seen no product of any kind..supposedly there is some monster silk out there some where..im sure someone has a picture of a small amount of it...but so what...what good is it if you cant sell it...im sure the scientists are simply giddy over their success...but kblb has yet to capitalize on their success...
again, i talk about the ceo of amsilk and the replies are all about the company..lol
pretty obvious theres nothing anyone can say in kim's defense..
let me make this as clear as possible...amsilk has done exactly as much as kblb...NOTHING...
amsilks ceo however has done much more than kblb's ceo...he is building the business..they have labs, employees, funding, publicity and they are building other facilities as well....that alone puts their ceo leaps and bounds ahead of kim...
regardless if amsilk's scientists ever make a strand of apider silk, their ceo is doing a great job at giving them everything they need and building the business end of things....
he is not sitting around waiting for the scientists to do their job before he decides to get off his butt and do something about the business end of the company...he is not being silent..he is actively engaged..he is promoting his company...he is not making empty promises...he is not putting out timelines and failing to meet them...
"This statement does not mention a CEO.
Quote:
Amsilk has no product yet but they are getting great funding, great publicity, building facilities etc...why is everyone trying to put a bad spin on these things??..."
seriously?..how do you think funding, publicity and building occurs?...it occurs because the ceo knows how to "get er done"..
"Or maybe because you are talking about Amsilk and not its CEO"
amsilk does what it does because the ceo does what he does..
"Maybe because this board is about a company not a person"
what??..lol..
"Maybe because this board ia about KBLB not amsilk"
this board is about kblb and anything that is related to it and its industry...
"Maybe because you are wrong"
not likely
"Why is is that when you talk about amsilk they are awesome and KBLB is crap For doing the same thing?"
i am talking about the ceo of amsilk vs the ceo of kblb..its not my fault that kim pales in comparison...as far as comparing the companies, it would appear that amsilk pales in comparison to the potential that kblb has...yet amsilk is getting one whole hell of a lot more done compared to kblb..and that is due to the ceo...and that is a FACT...
"As for success. Show me some amsilk
I can show you KBLBs silk"
as far as i can tell, neither has shown that they have been able to commercially produce any silk or sell any..although only kblb has stated they have a viable product..they just havent sold it to anyone yet...
"What are you going to say when the CC has a commercial deal?
i will say wonderful..??
"I dont know if it will I am just curious what you will do."
i will buy and sell it and make a ton of money...??
"Is that when you vanish..
why would i vanish?..lol......
"or will it still be a scam because they only have 1 contract?"
i have never said kblb is a scam..but yes, it is still a possibility because it supposedly has so much going for it and yet it is performing so poorly as is the ceo...
and if any deal is done with something like "joes silk manufacturing/chinese take out" that is not going to help...
the 1.50 was an exaggeration to make a point..since thats all you found to oppose, i guess the rest of my post was accurate..thanks for the support
"Do you really think that a price in the 20s will magically bring more stability to this stock in the absence of a commercialisation deal or other big tangible news?"
absolutely yes...but it isnt magic lol...its just common sense....if the stock price was $1.50 under the same circumstances, that would be better also...
making irrational excuses for why the stock price being at .07 is a good thing after years of great advancements and a year of failing to sell a product that was hailed as revolutionary does no one any good....
any company that has made great scientific advancements which have been touted world wide, that has exclusive rights to market that science, that has a revolutionary product to sell, etc etc etc and has a pps of .07, is a company that is failing miserably to take advantage of their situation...its a company that is failing its shareholders on so many levels...
one can try to come up with wonderful possible reasons why kim is letting so much opportunity pass him by...but the truth is, its the same old same old...it what he does..
its as if he really doesnt have what he says he does...and this being a pink sheet, that is always a possibility...wonder why kblb is where it is?..its because investors who could make a difference in this stock see what i am saying...they will let unsophisticated investors buy the dream...they sure aint gonna...
perhaps kim has what he says he does...but he sure doesnt act like it...hell, fraser speaks better and says more for the company than kim does..
Utter nonsense
Kim has succeeded?...lol..he hasn't made a dime of revenue let alone profit...
Why is it when I say what amsilks CEO is doing, everyone replies with what the company is doing?..I guess it's because you know I'm right and cant contest it so you pretend you don't understand...
Yes es1..you are right...amsilk and kblb are the same in that neither one has accomplished anything yet...but amsilks CEO is still doing one hell of a better job than Kim..
Amsilk has no product yet but they are getting great funding, great publicity, building facilities etc...why is everyone trying to put a bad spin on these things??...these things are what a good CEO can accomplish..at least a CEO who knows what he is doing..
I repeat..Kim could learn a lot from amsilk CEO about exactly what I said...and I invest to make money...I don't care about anything else...
It doesn't change what I said..they could make some money and they sure know how to get funding..big funding..build things..market themselves..get publicity..run a business...
Kim could learn a lot from that company..
Time is money
Sounds like they might make some money though...they sure as hell know how to get funding...
he speaks in the manner that he does because its the best way to cover his arse..when you are telling people that you are going to do something and you have no clue at all if you can really do it, you need to be very careful...and then when you take it further by saying all the things you intend to do just as soon as you do what it is you know you are not sure you can do, you want to be even more careful....and when you take peoples money and spend it trying to do something you are not sure you can accomplish even though you are assuring everyone things are going just great, you want to be even more careful...
like i said a million times, kim speaks the way he speaks INTENTIONALLY...its not because hes so stupid that he doesnt know how to make himself clearly understood (at least i hope not)....
as far as i can tell, the pnas confirmed the science as far as utilizing gene manipulation of a silk worm causing it to spin a thread that is a combination of wormsilk and spider silk...that seems to be about it..
there has been no confirmation of anything else that has been done...and doing something with that science is what kblb is all about...and they would have a LOT to do before they get around to selling anything...it was thought that monstersilk would have been sold to someone by now..it hasnt...i wonder why?..
it might just be possible that rather than dreaming nice thoughts all day long, that perhaps looking into certain things might be a little more constructive...
"It is an opportunity to set the world-on-fire concerning a solid, science-based, MATERIALS REVOLUTION, with the capacity to OBLITERATE the competition"
has anything kim has done given you the impression that he wants to "set the world on fire"?..perhaps kim is well aware that he does not have the ammo necessary for a revolution of any kind nor does he have the capacity to obliterate anything...
i know everyone believes that kblb has it all already...its got it all and its on the verge of revolutionizing various markets...
but does kim act like that is what he has?..cause it sure doesnt seem like it to me...if he delayed the cc for an even more ridiculous amount of time because he feels announcing another successful insertion is all that important, then he probably isnt ready to blow away anything other than his nose..
put all the hopes and dreams aside and deal with reality for a change...and never mind the last cc and how great it was, ( for whatever reason you might think it was great which i cant fathom) just pay attention to what is occuring and not occuring and how its all going...
this aint rocket science...but it sure isnt for dreamers either...
"I may be overly optimistic, but I think that is what Kim has had in mind all along, a Behemoth w/DEEP POCKETS!"
thats the common dream of all who hold shares in pink sheet stocks lol...
As a matter of fact I am not investing in kblb at all..so your suggestion is useless...and I am not talking about timelines having to do with biotech at all...I am talking about Kim's timeline for the cc...I don't care what excuse he gave for missing it..the worms wouldn't fall in love, someone left the air conditioning on, the dog ate the mutant genes, whatever...the excuses given don't matter...
If a CEO announces a cc and gives himself 6 weeks to do it and he can't "get er done" then it has been MISSED...
when he gives himself 6 weeks to "get er done" and cant do it in that time frame, he is late...late as all get out...and i dont care if it was called tentative or not..he gave himself way more than enough time...if he had no clue that he could actually pull it off, then he shouldnt have said a damn thing...
its poor judgement, its poor business, and its plain and simply LATE....
"As far as I am concerned I am going to attempt to load at a bottom like a trader should and get as much as I can like an investor should"
so you can sell again like a trader should...lol
you traded today?..it didnt do much of anything all day except go down...the only way to have made any real money was to short...and i know you cant do that...so what are we talking about?..a few thousand shares for a .003 profit?...come on...you are trying too hard..
"But I am the one who says there is not "pure" spidersilk"
zf said that long before you ever thought it...you just repeated it..
"Seems I remember someone saying the PPS was going to go up"
yes..and it did...and i also said this
"Friday, January 13, 2012 11:02:35 AM
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the chart is not looking good...i dont know what kim is waiting for (and neither does anyone else) but unless he does something soon, we will be right back where we started.. .07... "
man am i good or what?...
"As soon as I saw the delay I knew this would probably be the last chance for a PR to cause a substantial drop"
what??
"But I wont be stopping you from making me money with your posts"
what??
"Just keep making exaggerations Mojo The more you do the closer to doubling my share count I will get"
lol
bottom line is its time to prove he has something worth selling..i dont know if he has a tiger by the tail or an alley cat...whatever it is, its time to do something with it or offer prove of just what it is he does have...
"I don't believe at all Kim is trying to deceive anyone mojo"
i believe he thinks its best to be able to say something without anyone later being able to hold him to it...like everyone says, hes a lawyer and they are famous for making insinuations and intimations without ever being definitive, allowing people to draw their own conclusions...and yet he cant be held to it because after all, you DID draw your own conclusions...a confusing set of circumstances helps to that end as well...
the whole process is turning into a convoluted mess and he doesnt seem to have the slightest intention of clearing any of it up...
to be honest, he reminds me of someone who has sold people on the idea that he has something that he doesnt really quite have...he may have it eventually...he thinks he will...and he thought he would by now...but it just hasnt come together yet....and since hes not a scientist, he has no choice but to wait and see if in fact it all does come together..
so what does one in that position say?...well you damn sure dont commit to anything...in fact you dont say anything at all if you dont have too...
The concept you appear to be having difficulty with is that it was horrendously stupid and pure bs...
Oh no you didn't!!...lol...an honest realistic assessment of the situation?...without Pom poms?...well good for you...
As for all the various generations with divisions between monster silk and later mutations not to mention the various rounds for each, who in hell can figure it all out..and imo, that is by design..Kim can pretty much say whatever he wants about gen x and whatever round and he can't be called on any of it later..because the mistake will always be yours..never his...
As far as I'm concerned, Kim is shadow boxing and is in the 9th round and about to get knocked out...
As for Kim's comment about pure spidersilk, it was said we must certainly have pure spidersilk because Kim is a lawyer and is so careful with what he says...on the other hand the same poster always says there really is no such thing as PURE spidersilk...so there you go...proof positive that we probably have something but who knows what it is...
I hope it wasn't with your retirement money...again
You can now add a 12.5 percent drop today to the 2 percent yesterday..and yes, you are right..it does say a lot..
Kim gave himself 6 weeks to come up with a cc and couldn't do it..of course there was never any doubt in my mind that he would do it on time..if you announce that you are going to do a cc and give yourself 6 freaking weeks to "ger er done", there should be nothing tentative about it...the reality is he shouldn't have said a damn thing about a cc..that just makes him and the company look stupid...
To whoever said they were not children because they had patience...that's just nonsense but it's also not good to have a child like trust in a pink sheet CEO..
Now that is interesting..it seems Kim is promising there to be more carrots in 2012...
The truth is you have no more clue than anyone else
Look up post 33964 from dec 2nd where I said you won't get a cc in jan but maybe feb...
Misinformation?...lol...I'm more right than anyone on this board...with no d/d even..lol
This all started with you saying spidersilk WOULD replace ligaments...and as proof you listed Fraser as saying it COULD...BIG difference....
Now you are addressing the pnas all over the place as if that's going to change anything...it doesn't...it was a simple mistake on your part..not even that big a deal...
And yes I repeat, no one has a clue if spidersilk will work as ligaments...ever though Fraser thought it COULD...
No thanks..not interested in going back to the bullet proof skin nonsense...is that d/d???...lol...I'll pass
Fraser said it COULD..you said it WOULD......let's just suffice it to say that all shareholders believe spidersilk will replace everything under the sun and cure cancer as well.....and that I will begin to believe that kblb has a shot when they manage to sell one spool of spidersilk to anyone...
"What do you think it's worth to an NFL athelete (or any PRO Athelete) to be able to repair tendons/ligaments in a way that spider silk would allow?"
paging dr champion!...come on..you have no clue if anything that kblb produces will work as replacements for tendons and ligaments...no one does...its a nice thought but hardly ready for monday night football...
"People are not going to forget what they have read"
most people never read it or heard it...most that heard it probably didnt really even care...
its already forgotten...the 15 minutes are over...did you see the huge jump in volume and pps?....no, neither did anyone else...
like i said...kim provides fraser with money...fraser gave kim accolades......
yea...ill give that what its worth...nothing..
especially since it was science related anyway...its not the science...its what kim can do with it that will make people money...so far he has not made a dime with it...
"Now compare the PR's released since then and explain to me why the PPS is actually lower and not higher"
thats more effort than the stock is worth...but generally, the last years pr's got the dreamers to buy...they will buy on hopes and dreams...
kblb now needs real investors to buy...and they dont buy hopes and dreams...they dont buy silence...they dont buy scientific achievement with no clear indication that the company will or is in a position to capitalize on those achievements...they dont buy promises...the iq of the ceo wont impress them......
investors want to see results...from kblb..not the scientists...they understand that they are not buying stock in the scientists...they are buying stock in kblb...kblb needs to prove to them they are worthy of their money...
i dont open those nonsense links...so no i dont the theme...you guys just keep fiddling away while nothing happens...