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Yes, and just at valid as the pumpers guesses, and for sure from a much more objective point of view. It all adds up to me.
9car
That is an easy one jever. Dnaprint is going private. There is no more upside on the public side. Dnaprint already admitted that. Common holders will get no more then the current value. With any luck they'll keep the dnag ticker trading as something like an herbal cure for something out of Africa or go dark and de-list to the pinks so they don’t have to report so much. They should, there is no more to be gained from the BB structure.
This ticker is the most prolific pump and dump in history complete with a dedicated group of followers and promoters. I bet the XKEM manipulators already in line to take this ticker over lol.
This thing is in hock up to its neck and even if Tony still wishes common investors would be rewarded it is out of his hands and has been for awhile. Hey Tony! I dare you to put out your monthly newsletter again where you promise to forward split your way to the big boards lol.
At any rate right now they are giving the devil his due and the one who pays is U.
But please buy like crazy because everyone knows that no one says anything bad about bad stock right lol.
I won't harp on this, but when it happens I will say I told you so.
BTW you do not have a vote. Most of this ticker is held in a few street names and the company has vast majority control. When this happens it will be quick.
Oh yes, where is the annual shareholders meeting announcement lol? I’ll be waiting for that one. The announcement should come soon, and it won’t be good. I’ll hold enough shares for a proxy. Would miss out on a ticket for that media event, and not because of a M2GEN deal.
Oh yes and if you liked that 10K you will love the 10Q. So please be sure to pump this as much as you can before then right Jever? I see you all are pulling out all restraint on your pumps.
9car
really when was that dew? Was it when I warned about the negative effects of derivatives or SEC enforcement against someone associated with Designated Marketing, (DNAG’s official, paid, promoter) Which was it that almost got me kicked off the board? http://www.secinfo.com/d15yrh.vkv.htm
“Designated Marketing will provide the Registrant public relations
and corporate communications services to assist the Registrant in communicating more fully and effectively with its shareholders and the investment banking community.”
Any of you receive effective communication from Designated Marketing?
9car?
Dr. Fru. It is almost THURSDAY. Don't forget to take out the trash.
9car
good thinking eom
stockholder this whole ticker is toxic, that's the problem, Tony needs it to go away.
Yes, they are dumping anything that will not be partnered with M2GEN, that means us. Common shareholders will get nothing.
9car
agree Gooch. Tenacious for sure. Stockholder tell you what when this ticker stops trading and you have some free time on your hands I strongly suggest you come down here and sell real estate. No kidding, really. I don't need a test to see you have realtor DNA, you almost always see the bright side.
9car
could you ask louise if Gabriel cashed in his deferred salary we owe him using the proceeds of the biofrontera sale?
thanks
9car
stockholder sorry but there is no positive way to spin this. Common shareholders will get nothing.
But don't worry Tony ans his private suitor will be fine though. And that's all that really matters right? We were just in this for the sake of humanity anyway right?
9car
Gooch haven't you ever been to a going out of business sale before lol.
9car
lizm67 I proofed this for you, very well written liz, just a few corrections. Much more accurate now...
"even the pumpers know this stock has no potential to be a winner imo, why do you think they are here day in and day out? for their health - lol, I don't think so - I think they are just trying to hype up some more expensive shares is what I think - jmho"
9car
Chris if that happens I hope I hear the sames voices. What we need to get there is a secret email by Billy or another official monthly investor email from Tony reminding us about the Big Board plans for dnag/p and that investors wil be rewarded stuff etc..., not likely.
9car
Stockholder this is 100% for sure no opinion B.S. Hopefully you are speaking of the imaginary friend you hear in your head so you can plead insanity.
9car
Frog, earsoup promised that DNAP had a deal with IBM's super computer way back so I wouldn't worry. I am pretty sure that there is a vast conspiracy to keep dnag's complex algorithms under wraps until the big news of state and federal funding is released as indicated by stockholder.
I don’t care if they forget if their ticker symbol is dnap or dnag or if they spell Moffitt correctly or not. Makes no difference. The secret societies in the world that control everything are collaborating with the pharmaceuticals to keep a lid on this big deal to be announced. And do you think the similarity between algorithms and Al-Gore-rhythm is a coincidence? I think not. I am pretty sure that the one who invented the Internet also formulated Genomics and I would expect to see news on this.
Satire by - 9car
lizm67 could you please come up with something more original. I have been awake searching for legitimate companies who had a big increase with a lot of so called bashers posting on pump boards the day or weeks prior the big rise and I can't find any. Please educate me.
Thank you so much,
9car
Yes I am smart, but my smart degree cost me more than a college education learning this game so I may not spell too good but I spell better than Dnaprint who couldn't spell Moffitt correctly. You said I should work harder; The implication is that posting is a job. You don't really mean that because I can tell you are not a pumper. True? Yes. You are influenced by the promoters. Now, would I accuse any individual of paid pumping? No. Not Stockholder or Jeerer. I said these boards exist for that reason. I can't judge who is just caught up in the drama from those who are the promoters.
You can judge who the promoters are by who makes personal attacks. You said I know everybody's method of operation. I wish I did but don't I know much about personalities. I do know some about OCTBB stuff.
When the board moderators and manipulators blast anyone who doesn’t agree with their agenda have you ever accused them of knowing "everyone’s MO"? When they accuse posters of multiple aliases have you ever accused them of knowing "everyone’s MO"? When they accuse posters of bashing have you ever accused them of knowing “everyone's MO”? When they accuse posters of being paid have you ever accused them have of knowing “everyone’s MO”?
No. This deal is intended to mislead and steal money from people who haven't read the fine print in their brokerage agreements. Fortunately that is changing.
9car
ice don't spoil the fun. You know the drill by now. Sell when they are pumping, buy when they go to vegas for a promoters convention or fake a reason to be off the board for awhile. If you post anything that sounds like a bash they'll turn to the "bashers only bash real stocks" script in thier employee manual and the suckers will believe them and run it up. So just chill and do the drill hey?
BTW for they few who don't know, there are no paid bashers on these boards except possibly the promoters. These boards exist solely for purpose of creating liquidity in penny stocks by promoters. If you think this is a forum for thoughtful and objective investors you are wrong. Look at the the Microsoft board. Should Dnaprint have much greater discussion than that multifacted company. No. This is a pump board in my well informed and humble opinion and if you need to throw money at this you should consider the realities.
9car
Nope. I should shut up since I am holding but the fact is that there is nothing except the possibility of Dnaprint spending money to move to Tampa. The Herald Reporter knew nothing about Dnaprint except what they told her and she is not planning to cover Dnaprint anymore, I think. In retrospect I strongly expect she would have asked for clarification of the alleged Dnaprint involvement with M2GEN if she had it to do aver again. Welcome to our world hey investor’s lol. She was doing a quick piece on a new company in Manatee county period and fell for the same were' gonna be rich hype Dnaprint exudes in private conversations. Know what I mean some of you?
Bottom line when Dnag responded with that pathetic email today and miss-spelled Moffitt (Moffett) lol they showed their stuff.
If there was a deal with Moffitt or M2GEN there could have been no mention in the media without a public release. Any deal is cooked now. All we know is that Dnaprint was invited to invest in the USF property helping Merck get the deal done.
Of course there cold be a deal with Gomez which common shareholders do no have a stake in. That could be why they don’t have to announce it.
This behavior from Dnaprint is typical and the reason they are held at arms length in the ****** community. I wonder what the 2005 SEC investigation of Dnaprint Gabriel mentioned was about, this kind of stuff? Let’s ask him what you say.
9car
stockholder101 I'd call these reporters to hear it straight from them before reading too much into their remarks.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/business/16502822.htm Sara Kennedy, Herald business reporter, can be reached at (941) 748-0411, ext. 4500, or at skennedy@bradenton.com
http://www.tbo.com/news/money/MGBOAJZJMXE.html Carol Gentry and Ellen Gedalius Carol Gentry can be reached at (813) 259-7624 or Ellen Gedalius can be reached at (813) 259-7679 Reporter Catherine Dolinski can be reached at (850) 222-8382 or cdolinski@tampatrib.com
9car
it says "The city council plans to vote on its part of the deal within a month". But stockhlder I still don't see how you can be so confident there is some benefit to Dnaprint in that deal other than Dnaprint moving up there to get closer to the action. Hope there is something though. I wish Gomez would be as communicative with investors the way he is with reporters lol.
9car
http://www.tbo.com/news/money/MGBQQ3E0IYE.html
Living in Tampa Bay, seeing and hearing all the news in print and on the air, and one committed to real DD by verifying stories, I can say that none of these reports is based on any knowledge of Dnaprint’s involvement with M2GEN, Moffitt or Merck insofar as receiving funding from any of the later. All of that was speculation by posters fueled by overzealous posters and un-substantiated comments by Dnaprint Official(s).
To sell this deal to Tampa, Hillsborough and the State, the players had to show as much benefit to Hillsborough county as possible; meaning jobs and occupiers of real estate. Dnaprint was mentioned as one of the companies interested in locating close to the new USF/M2GEN/Moffitt facility. All we have the right to conclude so far is that Dnaprint is willing to spend more money to get close to M2GEN. One on-air reporter noted that these companies like to be close to one another.
There has been no affirmation by Moffitt or updates concerning Dnaprint / Moffitt trials or collaborations since 2004 from anyone credible and that collaboration expired last year. Any new trial or collaboration would require public notification if it were a material event which could effect the value of the company.
To buy into the Dnaprint M2GEN dream at this point would require feeling there is some super secret deal cemented but not culminated in writing until an opportune time. Hope so, I bought that, but there is no solid reason to believe that at this juncture.
What we do know is that Merck got their deal done and having a handful of companies willing to invest in Merck's project didn't hurt Merck. Are those other companies hyping deals with Merck on bulletin boards? Could be, haven’t checked. If they are I bet they are funded by Brooks and Donson or a race car driver lol. (sorry couldn’t resist)
If Dnaprint moves out of Manatee County to Hillsborough County the result is a gain of 20 "well paying" jobs to Hillsbougough. That's all the news and politicians care about. BTW there was a noticeable lack of comment from the Sarasota County press. (Dnaprint moved out of Saratsota recently). No way those guys will give DNAG any press unless it is real, and I suspect the Manatee Press will be more careful about repeating Dnaprint Official(s) comments without verification of claims in the future.
Now, I am like the rest of you interested in this, except for the hypers that is. It does seem that Dnaprint has a lot of irons in the fire and some of them could or should be relevant in the mix here. What is irritating and worth questioning is the lack of accountability and the historical misleading of investors by the company and the promoters. I would strongly suspect the troubling period around 2005 would have made it difficult for any prestigious institution(s) to be named with Dnaprint. More troubling was the report that "both Gomez and Dnaprint" will be involved with the Moffit M2GEN project. Is there a difference between Gomez and Dnaprint? Moffitt isn't afraid to announce real collaborations. On Feb 15 they announced a predictive test not related to Dnaprint, So why not announce any Dnaprint test developed in collaboration with Moffitt?
The most hopefull thing I saw lately was DD dr fu mentioned. I consider him objective and misjudged. I just hope that the one time he bought into something positive he came across and took a stand on, that it wasn't wrong. How sad that would be. I have unique resources and I can't find whatever he was referring too, but I hope he is right.
9car
Yeah the other side would be better but we didn't want to be perceived as spying lol so it was just a drive by photo, and it's very nice inside I understand. A lot more space for a lot less money too. Its a real building, the decorative stucco facade is typical.
I am amazed they haven't announced what is going on at the new place yet.
9car
New Facility
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/9car/New_Web.jpg
9car
No len, good wisdom. But the crooks will take thier money as long as people are willing to give it to them. Very happy I got out long time ago after falling for the scam.
The ONLY thing that would keep me holding one of these POS's is that eventually they will go to shell and then be manipulated by a new scam and run up by another generation of fraudsters. So if you think you have another 20 years to live then hold lol.
In the meantime, send the kids to community college.
9car
thank goodness BoooM now that I know you won't sell your 300000 shares I feel much better.
By the way in America we say "not for sale" as opposed to for "not for sell".
9car
fru there is a chance that stockholder actually believed this stuff. I did. When you finally figure it out why not get real and be willing to post the truth? I was a die hard too. this was a real company granted, but they got mixed up with manipulators and bad financing and privately funded companies got way, way ahead. To believe that you or stockholder are manipulators would mean that you were on the payroll of several administrations. I doubt it.
Now. Dnag is just another OTCBB ticker and the news to follow will be just like every other POS. The line is crossed. I hope they pull off another pump and dump so I can sell. This stock no longer has real potential. I can tell you that dnag has no clout in the industry. They are a joke and to think that government agencies and reputable institutions will further associate with them is unthinkable.
I purposed not to pass judgment on posters motivations and I won't. I never accused stockholder101 as a pumper or you as a basher neither have I responded to the pitiful hypers (some moderators) of this board who discredit and accuse me. I know where I stand.
One person wishes they could ignore me won't even sign-on to pay for the pleasure. Ignore-ance is not a virtue. Others look at every poster as either a basher or a pumper. I am happy I don't live in their world. In my world there are reasonable people who look at all sides. When someone hides their head in the sand all we see of them is their stinky arse.
Dr. Dew wo constantly accuses me is an assistant moderator of this board and is not a paid member or grandfather member. Lurkers, ask yourself why reasonable people who give real information and ask valid questions get blasted by moderators and others, then you may have an idea who the real manipulators may be.
Then ask why real professional people in the industry don't post here. They wouldn't be caught dead here. Ask why professionals don't chime in to tout the great alliances DNAG BOUGHT. You could find those answers with a few phone calls. I did.
I was attracted here by the reasonable discussion between frog and virgil. Even they must see by now it is all a moot point.
So to you pumpers, where are the posts about big pharma and buyouts and alliances and special knowledge of the big news to come? TUESDAY, THURSDAY ect..?
9car
anyone. what is the reason for certain sentences highlighted in bold print caps in the SB-2 such as... "IF WE ARE UNABLE TO RETAIN THE SERVICES OF MESSRS. RICHARD GABRIEL, TONY FRUDAKIS AND HECTOR GOMEZ, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS."
I honestly don't know and am not implying anything.
I am inclined to think that the company is trying to legally warn us to cover their arses but that's a guess. There must be a reason. I don't know why I am asking anyone here since I haven't gotten any real facts here yet, but possibly there is a a "lurker" who knows these things. Private mail mail me please if you don't want to post.
tia
9car
Michiko have you heard anything at all over there in Deutschland about Biofrontera?
tia
9car
Well Ann according to the SB-2 Donson Brooks has voting and dispositive powers over the shares owned by Designated Marketing, LLC. These shares are held in escrow and will be issued based upon performance of specific milestones.” So I’d say we are in good hands with Brooks in charge of our share dilution. Right?
½ of those shares were given upon acceptance of the agreement on 8/29/2006 so Brooks and Roundtree had them then... sold in the dump the other day? Don’t know. Dnaprint Genomics, Inc. does not indicate that any of those were sold before yesterday 9/14/2006.
A little D.D. on Brooks and Roundtree of Designated Marketing, LLC assuming these are the same persons of which I can’t be sure. I know DnaPrint investors want good DD right? There is much more but I don't want to bore you and you can find it yourself I am sure.
http://www.com.state.oh.us/press1/00releases/sc0809.htm
http://sec.gov/litigation/admin/2006/34-53925.pdf
http://sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr17756.htm
9car
right on chiggah we should be sure before we jump to any conclusions so lets do some due diligence to make sure the person mentioned in this SEC litigation report is not the same person who signed on to provide “public relations and corporate communications services” on behalf of Dnaprint Genomics in the 8K form “released” on 9/52006
http://sec.gov/litigation/admin/2006/34-53925.pdf
http://sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr17756.htm
save us your paid basher crap. people lost thousands here and I have a million shares to loose myself so spare me.
9car
well vern I suggest you take that verse in context...
"Matt 7:1-6 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."
Hi fru. Wow I see that now God is judging you as the bad guy here. Oh my.
9car
can you see VNDM UBSS NITE OLMP lined up on both sides of the fence like hovering vultures. Fluff news can't be far too away.
9car
We should all join in welcoming our new Market Maker Vandam Securities VNDM. UBSS NITE and OLMP will be thankfull you are willing to share the burden of selling all those shares.
And please extend our regards to our new friends at Designated Marketing. I am trust yall's relationship will be mutually beneficial.
9car
stockboy I'll meet you for dinner and after the main-course we can discuss re-course. Serious. It's time. The dots are conected. Have you DD'd the new players? Un-friggin real. They should have known better.
9car
I ask who would need to pay to bash this? If you have a theory on who would I’d love to hear it. I doubt Dr. fru is a paid basher so whatever your frustrations are they are misdirected.
Fru’s stuff is at least based on history or fact which is more that can be said for most here. For instance fru says “This latest pay-for-pump deal appears to be of less credibility than the former two and smacks of extreme desperation on the part of management.”
The Designated Marketing Site says they specialize in “Distressed Company Financing”. So by DM’s own words fru is not wrong.
The worse personal attack you could point to is his alias “dr fru” but I doubt the real Dr. Frudakis would take offence. If he did he would deserve it anyway since he has led you and me into a deep abyss so far and yet still continues to talk-up the great rewards to original Investors last I heard so the one you should be frustrated with is Dr. Frudakis and not fru if you are so inclined but our fru is an easier target isn’t he.
I hold more hope than dr fru but his view dosen’t threaten me and odds are he will be the one who is right.
If someone picked on Jeever or Stockholder101 i'd defend them too since all these accusations are just a smoke screen to avoid the issues but I guess it's too much to ask for people to backup their statements.
9car
Thinking out loud here. In June the company paid out $100,000 in fees, $451,250 worth of CD shares Plus, a 1.4 million in promissory note. However, in the latest 8K we see in July they only paid out $161,751 for 13,859,396 shares to Dutchess (.0116 per share) and 6,250,000 shares to Designated Marketing. Unless I am missing something, this looks vastly better than April May June.
Then there is Designated Marketing. Imagine for arguments sake they are legit. Then recall that Richard mentioned the private investment option for Dnaprint Pharmaceuticals. Designated mentions their preferred method of financing is 144’s (private investors).
If Dnaprint is running another pump scheme why not just give more payments to Wall Street Group so Dnaprint would not have to disclose a payment to marketers, Wall Street Group can do that legally since they are our official investor relations firm and Dnaprint cannot sell their own shares into any run anyway as per Dutchess agreement so what is the point of freelance pumping? That would only help Dutchess.
Could Designated be working on 144 financing for Dnaprint Pharm? Richard said (infomercial) he was consulting with Wall Street Group to find new financing for Dnaprint Pharm. Too bad Richard won’t be forthcoming with us.
The problem is that if you would take an hour and DD Designated Marketing LLC it would not make you feel good at all to put it graciously.
stuck in a quandary.
9car
ps just considering all the angles. I won’t buy anything until the company shows their hand.
Very funny Jeve. I thought since you moderated your tone the least I could do is reciprocate lol. Plus I am in a good mood today since the 9car won both the Busch and Nextel cup races in California this weeked!! weeeeee. What no NASCAR fans here?
No one will believe this, but I don’t change my opinions based on how many shares I have. I expressed my concerns and still have the same. It’s not my place to tell people how to behave, but if everyone would moderate the nasty accusations toward other posters life would be a lot happier.
For what it’s worth I am not loaded up. I have ½ of the position I would have if I knew this thing was ready to make a turnaround. I sold ½ when the Biofrontera deal feel through. If it comes back before the end of September I probably will by them back.
If I see a lot of pump sites show upon the DNAG “news” and see a lot more new hypers show up on the boards I will take that as a bad sign. Today I already have a concern… OLMP is back at the top of the sell list.
9car
No problem Ann, nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't consider that hype and at least you are not one who feels a need to slam other posters.
BTW anyone notice the PPS is drifting upwards even though there has been much less hype lately.
9car