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jfmcrr@ Thank you for your answer - and your right' I did get your post wrong about the HIV.
Your are of course absolutely right about 'spreading fear to the public is 'so damn easy' - and 'the money to be made' So BIG.
Put on top of that the number of MSM media 'always looking for sensation - that gives the best viewer numbers (social media Fake/'Silver Hat' news) - you have a cocktail - that 'the next moment will be claiming - 'Virus is Invasion from Mars' to take over the Planet.
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I will set a link below with a story from back in 2009 - about how WHO changed the criteria (made it easier) to proclaim a New Flu - to be a 'Pandemi'.
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88.000 people died in this season in USA from the 'Normal Flu' - without anyone shouting 'Pandemi'. WHO's own nummers says around 500.000 Worldwide dies of the flu every year.
Now here comes along this 'new virus' from China. I haven't heard any of the 'experts on Media try to explain 'why this much smaller number' is much more dangerous for the general public. It is 'exactly the same group of people that dies from this virus - than from 'normal flu'. Primarily old people in bad health. How is Covid-19 different from already known Flu Virus's ?
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Alle the best to you and your wife.
Jasbg
Irish@ Love your spirit - and I agree :)
The truth is that 'the trial' wont change the Value of Vascepa for Patients one bit.
It's all theoretical - 'what if' !
Are Generics 'Thives' actually able to replicate Vascepa (took 10 years for Amarin to develop)?
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Of Course everybody that knows the truth about Amarin - hopes that the Judge rules in favour of the company - that 'fought and payed in 'Years and Sweat' for the development of Vascepa.
But even in the event that 'Generics Thives' - manage to have some sort of support from the Court - they are stil just cynical 'THIVES' !
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Amarin and Vascepa - Will Conquer the World :)
Jasbg
BB@ Admire your energy and enthusiasm regarding Amarin future.
Even maybe not everybody here - agree 100% with all your points - it is in the end 'Doer's that move the World Forward' !
All the best
Jasbg
Everyone knows - you'v got to make others bye the stocks you own .)
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Succes it not easy to come by these days in the market. As a complete wild shut - entirely Based on the Fact that Baker Brothers sold part of AMRN and bought this one instead - IFRX - i bought 1880 shares yesterday at 4.10$.
Bragging - today it is up 7.45% - that's succes - Yes :)
Downside' total value of Investments (cash/pensions/401) down 'a landslide' - like 3- 4 nice cars - even in Denmark with 125% tax on new cars.
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But that's life - i haven't sold anything 'At All' through the Corona Storm - and I'm not going to.
What I worry most about - is our darling Amarin AMRN - the trial and near future. As a lot of people on this board - I'm if fact Maybe To Hard into this stock - which is right now down 'all together' - some 30- 35% from were I came in. But I do still believe that Amarin will concure the future :)
Have a nice and Corona Free weekend to everybody.
Jasbg
JRD@ Funny - Mr. Rich Guy :) - Soap does wonders !
jfmc@ I congratulate you . that you lived through HIV - which people my age remember as probably the worst killer in modern times.
But with all respect - as of today I will not compare this 'Latest Flu' - to the deathwarent to even young and healthy people of the HIV virus in the first 10- 15 years it played out.
Covid-19 - will in future be considered 'just another Flu-Virus. HIV was one of the vorst merciless killers of young 'otherwise healthy' people ever.
ATB
Jasbg
WhLat@ Every time Authorities says -'Dont Panic' - People 'PANIC' :)
Lemmw@ I Heard on MSM that the Corona Virus test costs something like 3.000$ - and that it is not in all States yet decided/informed that you wont have to pay that your self.
That in itself garantes that 'not every possible infected person' seek authorities for testing.
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I dont know if it's correct - but I think it was actually here on iHub i saw someone mention that China is now offering every citizen (was on CNBC) 1400$ compensation for seeking testing - if they suspected infected with the Virus. And if correct - of course that does indicate that they take it very serious over there.
Jasbg
Lemw: Thanks for answer: To the point your making (about the 3% - against normaL 'flu rate death' - 0,1 - 0,2% - experts actually expects covid-19 to end in the same range (given that there is likely hundred of thousands/millions 'being exposed' to virus - with small to no symptoms).
Right this moment dont remember if it where Danish or American expert that pointed this out. That the expectation is that 'death rate in the end is like 'already known Flu Viruses - 0,1 - 0,2%.
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No'one wants to respond to the fact that WHO changed their policy - making it easier to declare 'Pandemi' ? :)
Not difficult to find like 'a thousand' reasons to 'Have a Pandemi' every 5 - 8 years - looking at the number of impacts this fenomena have on the economy (donations to UN and WHO) Bio Industri. Lots of big Money interests.
And that is not even counting in the Major Political influence this could have in an election year in the USA.
Jasbe
nor400@ You commented on an article I Quoted couple of days ago - subject that WHO did change their definition of 'Pandemi' - to make it much easier to push the panic button - exactly what we see right now.
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1: Even though you responded' - it was not to the matter of WHO's new 'Pandemi' polisy.
Please respond to - the fact that WHO's definition for 'Pandemi' suddenly was changed - making it a lot easier to declare 'Pandemi' ?
2: As I take you for qualified in Medicine - Will you please explain to me the difference in Covid-19 - to a 'Ordinary Flu' that hits every year.
I just saw on Fox News explained from expert - that 88.000 people have died from the usual 'Ordinary Flu' in USA alone this season. Up until this moment 14 people died in US from 2020 Corona Virus (the latest Flu).
Why is Covid-19 declared a 'world threading Pandemi' ?
Jasbg
BraST@ The market is very much a psychological game - of Fear and Greed - and in the end $$ and more $$.
I personally have an ambivalent perception of Wall Street (the Money Market general). It is in many ways rather rotten' (run by a bunch of Selfish ignorant Brokers - only caring about themselves and money).
Problem is that 'alternatives are even worse' (China - Rusia - Cuba - Venezuela - Ukraine).
So in 'Real Life' - still prefers Wall Street - and the European Markets.
Jasbg
studh@ It has already been brutal' - waiting forever' for this fantastic drug to be Valued Fairly.
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If you believe in the big number of 'Real Medicine Experts' (who many takes V themselves) - here on iHub - and others on Yahoo - this drug is a Lifesaver - like nothing they ever seen before'. And that's why this is a HIGH VALUE stock - no matter what.
The trial that is soon to be ended - might have impact 'short-term' - but it will not stop' this revolutionary drug from going to be a Worldwide Succes - saving millions of CV patients from early death.
Jasbg
no40@ Did you actually read the tekst i set up on the board ?
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loblo@ I'l bring a marching-band with trompets and banners - and sunny weather.
You just tell you'r butler to 'make a call' when you bought the Manison :)
Problem is that UN - has become a 'free in the air floating' - undemocratic State among States - with 85,000 'much to highly paid' employees.
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UN keeps making / feeding their invented Money Machines - be It 'CO2 Climate Nonsense' - or as here - 'Another world threading Pandemic'.
UN 2020 - Don't Solve Problems - The big Bureaucratic Monster 'Creates Problems' to serve their own benefit - living in absolute luxury.
loblo@ Can I come visit - Airbnb LOL :)
Sometimes Truth is 'Relative':
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Under here an article from a left leaning Danish paper - back in 2009.
Already then suspicious of the direction UN and WHO took:
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jfm@ Best of luck for your wife.
That's a hard road you and she have been traveling. Really hope Vasepa will help her get better !
All the best
Jasbg
IN8@ NOT!!! - Believe in AMRN - But !!!
BioC@ Good for you. As long as you hold on to AMRN - you'r OK - Yes :)
That's hysteria for you :)
They say the have vaccine by the end of the year! This problem is long over by then !
This input is borrowed from Yahoo. I dont understand everything - but i think it will be of interest to a number of the 'Bright People' here on iHub':
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Wallowinit21 hours ago
Because the teddy bear anonymous drives me nuts with the constant spamming of mis-information I am going to post this which is of relevance to Vascepa and AMRN. I normally avoid the mindless spammers, but in this case because a new person to the AMRN board might take the threat of MAT9001 seriously I will debunk that threat. First off, there is no robust data comparing MAT9001 to Vascepa. In the one trial that was run, with 42 subjects, by a for-profit entity, MTNB did not dose vascepa properly (with timing or dosing) with the result being that the comparison of triglyceride lowering between the two drugs was wildly flawed. That this is evident can be seen by noting that they obtained about a 9% lowering of TG by Vascepa, whereas the much larger, MARINE, ANCHOR and REDUCE-IT trials all got between 20-30% lowering of TG. In their new trial, called ENHANCE-IT (a silly presumptuous name when they have only 100 patients) they will study 100 patients, but again are using a sub-optimal dosing of V in an effort to not make a real world comparison. It will again be run by a for-profit agency. This trial will prove nothing vis-a-vis the relative TG lowering ability of V vs. MAT9001 although it might demonstrate the feasibility of MAT9001 to lower TG. Spamonymous also claims that MAT9001 will be eligible for a 505(b)(2) pathway to an expanded label for MAT9001. Nothing could be further from the truth. MAT9001 is a very different chemical composition to Vascepa. If any drug would have qualified to piggy-back on Vascepa via a 505 it would have been Epanova, from AZ since that had a very large amount of EPA. Instead, AZ chose to run a large 5 year CVOT and it failed. This brings up the other reason that MAT9001 will never get a 505(b)(2) clearance - there have already been too many failures of other omega-3 fatty acids when it comes to CVOT. As a matter of fact the FDA recently declared publicly that TG lowering is not a surrogate marker for lowering CVD risk. The FDA would have no reason to grant that pathway. Compared to statins where every statin tested had similar methods of action, and also produced LDL-C lowering, the omega-3 class has not shown that consistency. Therefore, MTNB will have to run a 5 year CVOT. This is especially true given that MAT9001 has a very high DPA composition and two recent studies released in 2019, in very large numbers of subjects, independently showed that EPA levels correlated with a lower risk of stroke and high DPA levels correlated with a higher risk of stroke by more than a factor of two. As a matter of fact this is a big enough concern that it might preclude it from ever being prescribed as a chronic medication for lowering just TG! Further, even if it lowers TG, why would anyone prescribe it when you could prescribe Vascepa and know that you are lowering TG and CVD risk? That would just be dumb. And if it is price you are concerned with, well there already is generic Lovaza for TG lowering.
Conclusion: MAT9001 is dead in the water without a CVOT.
veni vv@ Noticed :)
Albi@ The important thing here is' That the Corona Virus is 'not that deadly at all'.
Even experts have difficulty arguing how this virus differs from a 'normal flu' - which kills 'times 10' more people every year - without anyone shouting 'PANDEMI'.
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Back is the days of the A-Virus - WHO also pressed the big PANIC button - and 'heaven and hell' was set in motion to produce a Vaccine.
A year later 'the show' had cost fortunes for the Industrialized World. And there were Vaccines in WHO stock for more than 10 billion$ - 'that were now worthless' - because the A Flu - sort of just vanished - when spring and dryer weather conditions appeared.
You could suspect that these events are 'Very Useful' for keeping up donations to the enormous UN WHO organisation.
And the long list of Bio related companies - that makes fortunes on the 'panic' we see right now - it's not from them' you will hear - that this' (like eg. with the A-Flu Virus) - is wildly overblown.
Jasbg
JDR@ 2 options:
1. Health authorities around the world acknowledge that virus cant be stopped - life and trade normalize (in max 2 months).
2. Health authorities do succeed in containing the virus - and life and trade normalize (in max 2 months).
That the market knows this' you saw yesterday. Right now brokers just take advantage of the public (MSM driven) 'fear' to push volatility a bit longer.
The US market 'Does Not' fear this virus, but of course they take advantage of the trade options the panic offers. :)
Jasbg
BB@ You make a strong case. I would be all for 2:1 :)
An article around the subjects discussed in podcast:
https://www.investors.com/news/technology/biotech-company-gilead-buy-forty-seven-ftsv-stock-soars/?src=A00220&yptr=yahoo
BB - are you serious about possible Gild takeover/BO ?
Just noticed article already posted here - well no harm done :)
ggwpg@ I had a friend from my youth die some 3 years ago, from what was called the A-Flu Virus at the time. He was 62 years old.
He was a brilliant man - but very fond of cigarets and alcohol all through his life - and in the end it cost him 20- 25 years shortage !
I made a mistake in trying to locate biggest BO deal in billions:
This one is bigger (and I dont even like what this product does :) ):
AGN ACT q 88% $66B 11/14 #msg-108238424
For whom want to hear John Thero talk on conference of today - link herunder:
You just register and Web podcast starts.
http://wsw.com/webcast/cowen57/register.aspx?conf=cowen57&page=amrn&url=http%3A//wsw.com/webcast/cowen57/amrn/index.aspx
Forgot to put this link in post earlier - about today's fantastic market.
Look at that colour - and see the numbers. Not saying that the virus-scare is over - but American Investors and Brokers showed today - that the US market' - as of early 2020 - does not back down for a little headwind !
https://finviz.com/
Super - Super - Super - Dow up 5% - that I have never seen before !
US Investors and Brokers have ba**s - Real Men - and Woman (minus the ba** thing) ! :)
Resti@ And 20- 30 more 'Really Sharp Minds' in this forum !
That why us 'almost normal' come here to learn :)
There sure are a big number of Buy Out's in the Bio Business - but the larger part is smaller amounts (relatively).
Very big number billions are unusual. Biggest number i found on the list is:
DNA Roche 16% w $46.8B 3/09 #msg-36224175
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lo bl@ I have the same on a regular Win system. Bin there for the last week or so - and pops up - just about every time you shift the page.
Very annoying for sure :)
I tried both with' and without' Adds - makes no difference !
marjac@ Thanks again - for you almost Manifestial input about where Amarin and Vascepa is going.
And your right to point out 'that it's not only experts in Medicine and Law - but as you say - in Science' - Markets' and other areas of expertise.
Jasbg
marjac@ Thank You. It's great inputs like this - that make this forum 'Stand Out'.
I'v actually seen a number of Analyst - in almost a jealous way - wonder why Amarin and Vascepa is a 'Board Darling' i think someone called it.
I believe I can tell him why:
1. I guess something like half of people in this forum is actually on Vascepa themselves. And to this day I haven't seen (or heard from) a Vacepa user anywhere - that i not satisfied with the Drug. And that is itself a great achievement - compared to eg. statins.
2. There is a big number of 'Real Professionals' in Medicin and i Law - witch attracts the rest of us who can really learn a lot following a board like iHub AMRN.
3. And maybe the most important factor. When you invest in an index via ETF's - or in Banks - or in Oil - it's an 'investment'- that hopefully will pay of for you.
But for a very big number of people investing in Vascepa - it almost like 'A Baby' for them. There is so much 'hopes and believes' invested in this amazing drug - that it's hard to understand for outsiders - like the Analysts.
How often dont you read about 'that this drug will save millions' in the future - from ordinary investors.
A lot of passion and emotion from investors is put into this Bio Stock - in a way that i personally have newer seen before.
Backside of this involvement is'- that many of us takes it almost personal when 'the stock' - despite all the good vibes' - falls back in SP - which it has done a bit to often. It hurts to see 'Your Baby' not being recognized and fairly treated by 'the rest of the world' :)
Jasbg
Bill B@ Uni. of East Anglia: "Hide the Decline" Climate Gate.
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Suddenly remembered this "Great University" - they were deeply involved in the fraud of 'Hiding the Decline' - that to this day' is the Basis for UN's big christmas COP holidays.
2500 IPPC highly paid "Climate Experts" + their servants - MSM media NGO's (goddess Greta Thunberg backed by the Pope). All in all 40.000 people travels in big aeroplanes - every year to COP holyday - to Save the Planet.
All because of the Scam of University of East Anglia - Climate Hysteria scares every kid on this earth - being brain washed in Schools and Uni's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy
JJPow@ - Problem even the kids dont get sick- they still spread the virus.
And an 'unknown' case on a school is not a god senarie for tracing the spread.
The fact that they newer found 'patient zero' i Italie made it impossible to track down the area where it started (which areas to shut down travel etc.)
The real challenge with Covid-19 is obviously 'the easy spread' more than in fact the decease itself. Unlike eg Ebola in Africa.
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-outbreak-end.html
bubreawerwPPP@ FUNNY !