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What for? That was 5 years ago and the whole plan (including site)is different now.
Zoom in on the electric power substation:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3221167,-87.0052188,1660m/data=!3m1!1e3
Supposing they have ordinary human nature, asking them to "hurry up" is likely to provoke the opposite reaction.
In light of that information, you'd think the only people who will really get hurt are those who want to buy but have been holding out for a cheaper price. Getting off the pinks is likely to drive the price up.
BTW, Fred gave you an interesting nugget in his email and I'll have to give "Dave" credit for telling us about it several days back.
THX "Dave"!
That sounds dire. But I doubt if you have the slightest cause to worry.
As far as you know...
Maybe you were speaking of Fred Mertz or Fred Flinstone who both share the enthusiasm & intellectual gifts of "Dave". Though I've credited those two with more plain spoken sincerity.
Fred Frisco has every reason to reassure anxious people by mentioning that he's worked for free these many years. It suggests a state of dedication and seriousness of purpose not found among anxious people.
At any rate you claim to live in Louisville. Then you are aware that KY governors regard themselves like monarchs only a little lower than the "Sun King" himself. They do not travel to NJ to meet the heads of startup companies. You could've worked out in your own head that the assertion was false - hence the source dubious. I reached that conclusion with his very 1st post. But the gov? Why not tell us the Emperor of Japan has arrived in Atco?
Now that you bring it up my 10 yr anniversary is coming up in September. Fortunately - life goes on in other endeavors.
Look up CellarCraft and Winexpert. If you've got the space to allow for proper aging you can make better wine than you can buy at any price.
I hope our management will not neglect to patch relationships with the German stock exchange (is it in Frankfurt??)
If I remember correctly you have spoken to Fred Frisco - the authorized spokesman. So your information is just as good.
Maybe introduce yourself by name & phone # without any reference to your vast holdings. He may already know what you've got since the list of shareholders is not very long.
If you have a specific question concerning a timely & actionable topic I'd include that in your phone message. I'm a little person in my company but my interactions are mainly with the SVPs & Grandees of the organization. They count their minutes as I'd count $100 bills. The protocol is: "be quick; be precise; be clear what you want from me". Try phrasing your phone message that way & good luck.
If I appreciate it, why do you find fault?
Thanks. That was very interesting.
I noticed Doc's post was deleted, as well.
Meanwhile, crazyJoe advocates doing what is immoral, if not also illegal and that post remains several days later. All this suggests the "interest" in this board proceeds from somewhere besides USFF management.
Hope you read this quick as it will probably not be up more than a few minutes. All of mine seem to get deleted these days.
I understand that!
Gorbal warming. Silliest scam in history.
Thanks. Hopefully the 2012 audit is a pretty certain bet since current management was on the job the whole time. They don't need to wonder what is recorded on hard drives in somebody else's possession.
Best wishes.
You weren't among us when I told of speaking with both Mr. Baggot & Mr. Schwarz on the same day. I called on a Thursday afternoon. No answer so I left a message & went home. Mr Baggot called back 30 min after I left the office and again next morning. Mr Schwartz called around 10:30 the same morning. So they are willing to talk to idle strangers & I didn't disturb their peace with any mention whether I own 5 shares or 5 million. They treated me with the courtesy you'd expect for the latter.
The question actually is whether your talk is wasting their time. They are careful to keep the conversation to information already captured on the website. 30 minutes spent with you is 30 that could've been spent furthering our projects.
From my perspective it's better to let them work while I go do something productive.
Thanks. And glad to see you're still here as well. Conversations descended into silliness, so I guess we all went silent for the duration.
Contrary to popular opinion, the issue of massive stock grants to the various grandees seems like a good sign. Doc said something a few years ago that I thought was uncommonly wise: He doesn't care if they prosper more than he does. He just wants to prosper with them.
Glad to see you're still around. I guess serious people are still lurking here in case anything serious turns up.
Maybe not bi-polar but probably operatiing on an agenda that the rest of us don't share. Anyhow, I don't take the dinner story seriously.
At the bottom of the article about the lawsuit dismisal, you will find Paul Adams email address. If you write to him there, he will respond. He will not tell you things that you are "not at liberty" to share and I think it unlikely that anybody else has had a different experience.
For once we agree. I'd like to be off the pink sheets as well as anyone.
I just don't see a point in speculating that whatever is in the audit will be "bad". If you've ever had food poisoning, we KNOW the description of it will be unpleasant. But once it passes, the next step is to get out of bed, so you can get on with life. To me, the audit is just that.
Frankly I don't comprehend your fixation with the audit. No serious person can expect the audit to show a thriving concern. Particularly during the felon Fairweather's tenure. Hence the only possible purpose can be to re-establish proper reporting status which fell dormant while he was among us. My opinion only.
Audit is certainly not unimportant to many people. Myself included.
It will determine when the little enterprise becomes fully reporting again. It will signify end times to those who wish to buy shares but have not done so. It may signal doomsday to anybody fool enough to short a company likely to suceed.
You're quite right to think it's still important. Boom or bust. No in between. We will or we won't. Don't you love being in the "game"?
As I see it, the most significant difference is the scale of the project. CTL projects have been in the works for years but always been hard to find investors willing to take the risk, which might run into the billions. The smaller scale of the current project means it will take a lot less money to build, so the potential pool of investors is likely to be larger. Furthermore, the difference between being classified as a minor emitter and a medium to large emitter is huge, with respect to permits. The permitting process is shortened from years to months.
I don't think many people really appreciate the unfortunate events of late 2007, when Bear Stearns was attempting to arrange bonds for another project at Toms River, NJ. When Bear Stearns suddenly went belly-up, it was surprising they didn't take this little enterprise to the underworld, in the process. That was really only the beginning of troubles which continued for the next 4 years and I will not rehash, as they are well known. Kindly refer to Mr Tom8toes illustration of success for the rest of the story.
In summary, "what's different" is that the current project is cheaper and easier to do.
What a different world that reminds me of:
I grew up in a very small cow town in south Florida. The side walks were raised boards, and the cowboys wandering on main street looked like they could've walked right out of the silver screen.
Anyhow, on Saturdays, shops closed at 5 PM. So parents would bring their hordes of semi-barbarous children to the Saturday Matinee, while they went scavanging among the shops. Armed with 50 cents to get in and 25 cents for popcorn and snacks, we were set for the whole afternoon.
The new design company seems capable, so it's a positive development. Starting to look like we're getting our ducks in a row. Patiently waiting to get on a better exchange.
Try this instead:
http://www.rwenergies.com/index.php
Si! Let's have some more.
I was told in September that there would be a very significant bio-mass component to the fuel. I believe I said so in the fall. This announcemt fits with that information. This is just a means of "farming" for convenience sake.
What I think is important is that USFF becomes a producer of the miracle bio-mass fuel - required for some years by the EPA but previously non-existent. So we fill three important niches: low particulate emissions, low sulphur and high bio-mass content.
Remember that the algae is not a significant source of carbon. It can be thought of as a substitute for water, which is also important in the process.
Maybe somebody with his shorts in a twist. No sympathy. But better still if it's new people. As you say, all the old timers have hands of steel, so getting > 1MM may take some effort & appropriate lubrication.
I'll be surprise if you can get anything out of them.
From the USFF Investor Relations page:
On March 4th, 2013, US Fuel received two boxes of company documents from Mr. John Fairweather, Past President of NSOL, but no computer hard drives.
When Mr. Fairweather was terminated on March 23, 2011, he left the US Fuel offices and took with him a number of company files, records and computers, making it difficult to accurately determine the state of the Company. Mr. Fairweather refused to return the corporate materials and his actions are currently the subject of a case entitled The State of New Jersey v. John Fairweather, a criminal action pending in the Municipal Court of Waterford Township, Complaint number S 2012 00165, in which Mr. Fairweather is charged with theft of company property. Mr. Fairweather failed to appear at scheduled court hearings and US Fuel was seeking a warrant for his arrest when the documents were returned.
Based upon a preliminary review of the materials returned to US Fuel on March 4, 2013, management initial conclusion is that none of the information provided is relevant to the ongoing corporate audit. Management will consult with the US Fuel outside auditor regarding the new materials; the audited corporate financials will be posted upon completion.
On the surface, I can derive nothing meaningful from this but I think it's meant to be meaningful. There's no point in telling us he returned a box of love letters and pizza delivery receipts unless it signals something more important. You like to analyze the 'tells'. So why did they post this message?
Dr. No: Your thoughts?
I ought to say the only thing I despise more than a widow plundering short seller is a communist. They still exist and are fairly out in the open in the era of hope&change. Maybe these two denizons of perdition are really the same - I don't know but will treat them as if they are.
Communist bluster!
What do they teach in schools these days? Occupy Wall St-etc is a strategy for self-confessed losers.
Those who wish to succeed: Make the best decisions you can based on the best information you can acquire. Work your heart out. Sometimes win-sometimes fail. Pick your posterior off the ground & repeat.
Occupy nothing but your own place on the wheel of persistence.
Of course those are your words - not mine.
Carry on. Your own folly will be your reward. Let nobody stop you from claiming it.
Putting myself in a stranger's shoes:
Yes-in fact you maligned Mr Adams & cannot be excused. When you alledge (without ANY basis) the company is nothing but a website - you do factually claim Mr Adams to be no more than a liar. Thus - he is guilty or you are. There's no gray area here. It's him or you.
Now I'll remind you of Mr Potter's fatal flaw. There's no untaught multitude here. We've been through it all & (in the words of the imortal Dr. No - we await our fate). You cannot change the minds of any significant shareholder. Don't waste your time.
Interesting discussion here.
An alternative speculation as valid as yours:
Suppose Mr. Adams is a serious person engaged in a serious enterprise which requires most of his attention.
Now - further suppose he regards you as a silly person who has effectively called him a liar on multiple occassions. (You have repeatedly said the company is no more than a website - thus dismissing anything he had to say).
Now - supposing your real motives are actually pure & sincere... as you insist...WHY in GOD's name would he want to converse with YOU? You'll just attack him again.
What do you mean to say here?
Is it possible the so called "bottom play" was little more than a bottom feeder - at the end of his own rope?
So I imagined during the day but was not entirely sure.
However it may be today - end of rope is near. In my not humble & rather agressive opinion.
Lots of sunshine and optimism today!
Maybe I should cough up another $50 while it's still profitable to do so.
I've thought for six months that some individual was selling shares back and forth between his own accounts in a determined effort to bring the price down. It appears the object is to create a selling panic while never actually losing control of your own shares.
Trouble is... if you offer something for sale in a weak market, there's still a small probability that someone else will jump up suddenly and buy it from you. In which case, the scheme becomes a losing game for the very person practicing it. OH what a tangled web we weave, when once we practice to deceive...
I mean it wasn't radiation. It was a density detector.
The company line at the time was that radiation can be shielded, therefore radiation detectors are useless. Density cannot be shielded, regardless of the container used and density specifically identifies the material being scanned. It was the topic of numerous arguments between myself and MLM, which I eventually dropped because his case began to appear more likely to be right.
You don't remember all this. Are you a new comer?
Just needling you a little but I understand this is way out of your field.
I won't say I feel sorry for you. But since you're retired I think you should be out doing things you enjoy.
As for proving one thing or another I know as much as you do. As an aside - all the depositors in the banks in Cyprus thought their savings were safe. Do you know any SAFE investments? So far this one appears safer than a government insured bank balance.
The entire world went mad about y2k and doesn't look like it'll recover real soon.
As a general rule I don't do that which I find disagreeable. Certainly not a whole lot of it. So it's surprising when someone does.