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Thanks for the opinions. Any thoughts on the Form D & what it may mean positive or negative for them? Sounds like if it dips it may be worth putting a little "play" mony in it.
http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=7085828
Seeing as there is no activity here whatsoever, I am guessing there is no truth to an E-mail I got today & it's just a paid pump. Here is an excerpt from the link in that E-mail:
Google, Microsoft and Yahoo’s secret bidding war over
CRWG could make early investors instant millionaires
as their $1 shares shoot up to $17.70 or higher
as CrowdGather becomes one of the internet’s
largest information networks.
http://www2.smallcapfortunes.com/crwg/index.html
Just doing a little research to see if I should put a couple dollars into this or not. Anyone have any thoughts or see anything else on this?
And yes I did see the disclaimer about it being an ad at the bottom - I just wondered if it was worth checking into. Thanks for any info.
My wife's theory is that they are making it look worse than it is to drop the PPS so both the company and "friends" can buy back as much as possible as cheaply as possible.
I told her it's just a standard pink stock coming out the way it was expected though.
Basically, I think could go either way though.
Looking with no emotion at the results themselves though, they aren't that bad. It basically it looks like the recommend it as a drillable but suggest more testing first. That's not exactly the negative results people are making this out to be. Now instead of happening as soon as we expected, we now have to wait for more testing to take place.
Although by the time these next results come out, we will be into May, when they can dump more shares for more dilution.
Ah, if only we had a way to know Friday was going to be the high for now - and what's going to happen from here.
Either way, I'm just holding. I have nothing to lose seeing as this is a retirement fund that I can't touch for close to 20 years without having to pay the penalty anyway.
Well, that's my $.02, all IMO.
Let's hypothesize on this for a second. Let's say that the results come up as positive as they can.
Barrick has 984.4M shares O/S with a market cap of $39.5B.
So with nearly a billion shares, they are sitting at $40/share.
I did not check their A/S, but let's say they don't actually want to pay any cash for VIPR, so they make a deal of 1 share of ABX for every 100 shares of VIPR.
If our O/S is maxed out to the 2B A/S, that is only adding another 20M shares to their nearly a billion out there already, which is like a drop in the bucket & would barely affect them at all.
But, it would affect all of us quite nicely....
OK, cue alarm clock, wake me from this dream & take me back to my f'n desk.
Schwab showing last trade was 12/16/09.
I thought I said I only put a few dollars in that I CAN afford to lose....
If I didn't, that's what I meant.
I have a foolish question, so please indulge me. This to my own admission is way out in right field.
I follow postings here occasionally on this stock, but I am not here every day reading every post. I only put a few dollars in for a few million shares that I can afford to lose. The company itself looks like it may be headed in a good direction to me, so that's why I took a chance.
Schwab shows that BBDA has only 499.9M shares outstanding, which gives the company a market capitalization of just $100k.
I know based on chat here that the A/S was previously unlimited, and it was recently stated that it was limited to around 9B.
Schwab generally shows empty boxes for O/S and market cap if there is a question on what the numbers are, and normally only posts what they know to be fact.
Could we actually be in better shape with the O/S number than everyone thinks? Could there be buy-back going on without the company wanting anyone to know? That way, the PPS doesn't go up & they get it at these bargain-basement prices. Could we have a gagged T/A and no updates for that reason? I know usually you see reporting on that kind of thing, but not always in the pinks.
Thoughts?
Yup, I have thought that was it & interest suddenly ended the past couple days right about this same time of the day - then boom, there it went!
I personally agree 100% - but that's not his normal pattern. He & his people are in & out for a quick profit generally based on past history that I have noticed. They don't seem to go with stocks because they believe in them, but rather for a quick flip. I'm not saying that is 100% because I don't know his/their thoughts or anything - I am just saying that based on what I have seen that is my conclusion I would draw.
Yup, Pgh, PA. I actually work in the South Hills, with my office about 5 minutes from the Village - anywhere near?
Shakerzzz is the smart one, gets in a little before telling most of the people who follow him at a nice low point, tells everyone on his boards he frequents, then all the people who follow him start buying the crap out of it. That helps drive the PPS up quickly. Once it's up to get some profit, he will sell, and yes he would be smart enough because he is selling 1st. Then his followers start dumping with a profit, and that's when you see the effect. Depending on the stock, it can be minor, or it can completely kill a run depending on how strong the stock itself really is. Since there are literally hundreds of people who at least watch him, never know who will sell at what.
Also note that Shakerzzz & crew are in since at least yesterday - Expect them to dump at some point very soon as it starts to go up for their quick profits like they generally do & slow any kind of run we might have, at least for a little bit.
Gooooo BKMP! To da moon!!!!!
Since today is a boring day so far, anyone know anything or have any thoughts about the previous post I made with that report I found (the one I am replying to here, don't want to repeat it all again & be redundant)? Did anyone ever read it, and is it something good?
The reason I ask about DD on JICL is because it appears that the president of the company referred to in PR's & documentation as Javan Enock is actually Javan E. Bidogo. JICL seems to stand for Javon Investments Company, Ltd. The listed website (http://www.jicl-tz.com) doesn't work. I also found the geological report of the "MSANGACHUKI-LONDONI GOLD PROSPECT SINGIDA REGION." I have no clue what it means or how to read it, but it was apparently completed in October 2008. Here is the document in case anyone else understands what the technical stuff all means:
http://members.merxmotion.com/VIPRIndustries/images/pdf/Msangachuki-Londoni.pdf
The document looks pretty good & official to me, having maps, addresses, phone numbers, etc. That's also where I found the web site. I would also think that all the technical info would be a plus for giving credibility to this all being real as well.
This may all be old stuff that has already been discussed here, but I just came across it for the first time today. Sorry if it's already been talked about, but if so, I would appreciate if someone who was here prior would just summarize what the conclusion was in a quick reply.
Doing some DD just out of boredom - Has anyone checked out JICL Consultants?
Eh, a slow climb can be better in some cases than a quick boom - Instead of giving the flippers a chance to buy then quickly dump & kill a run, it gives a higher base for news to come later to give the holders a chance at some real money. IMO of course. :)
Thanks, looking good so far today!
Anyone have the lunchtime L2? Thanks!
Woo hoo! Looking forward to an interesting day tomorrow. Let's hope for that PR in the next few days to keep the momo going!
I'm showing .001 for close in Schwab, anyone else see it?
Yup, a .001 close along with today's volume would probably set off some alerts. If by chance we end up with the addition of an after hours PR with some positive results of the exploration this will fly tomorrow!
Nah, no offense taken, I was just annoyed at the time by another loser being a smart alec, so I was in a mood. I also hope you didn't take offense to my "10 whole posts" comment. My wife tells me I need to stop carrying my mood from 1 person (or situation) over to others that have nothing to do with the initial annoyance. In other words, I hear this a lot - "Stop coming home yelling at me because you had a bad client at work!"
I am actually here because I did decide to invest in this company becasue I like the idea of the Hydrocarbon Decomposition, so I have absolutely no reason to bash (other than hoping the initial one I am still unhappy with loses his shirt out of spite). Regardless of whether or not I personally believe in the so-called "carbon credits," I still think there is money to be made from the people who will fall for it - and I am more than happy to be one of the people who profit as a result! It's like the vegetarian who owns a McDonald's franchise.
Heck, I even stocked up on "real" light bulbs for when they are outlawed later so I can sell them to the people like me who hate the fluorescent. So while I wish it wouldn't happen, I see where things are going, and am more than happy to invest in the same alternative companies myself.
Actually you are partially correct. When I said global warming was a hoax, I meant the idea being pushed that it is caused by man is the hoax - So I admittedly did not word it 100% correctly. I didn't mean it to be a discussion though. Since it started as a joke, I was not careful with my wording.
I fully admit that there is both global warming and also global cooling. It takes place depending on sun cycles & activity more than anything. It just doesn't have anything to do with CO2 emissions or what we as human beings are doing. If it did, then mars would not be following the same overall pattern as earth, which it is.
Thank you for using one of your 10 posts ever to give me the warning to move on though. I much appreciate it!
Um, yes - It obviously WAS old news since IF you read the thread, my reply was to the reposting of an OLD news article. I just found it humorous that within the last week or so global warming was proved to be a hoax. Nice try at what, being funny? Sorry if my sense of humor don't hold up to your standard.
In fact, teh one I replied to started with "Here's a PR from 5 months ago."
Now that global warming has been proven to be a hoax (even though Al Gore & the others won't admit to it) through Climategate, I wonder if anyone will still be interested in those fictitious "carbon credits" that was planned to bring in extra income? ;)
Hey, D! Figured I would check to see if you have added anything with the Ken1 situation back at the BKMP board since you were so good with your DD.
Reading back, I saw the info you posted about your son. Sorry to hear that, and will keep him in my prayers. I hope all the treatment pays off for him.
Give a shout if you get a chance. I think I had sent you my real E-mail address at one point in a PM during happy hour if you still have that.
For those of you who are talking with Ken1, good luck to us all.
For those of you that think he is going to do something with you IP address, all I can say is that he has not asked anything that would not be readily available about me from 5-10 minutes of looking online. And in case you didn't know - any time you post on IHUB, your IP address is also captured. Of course, if you have your computer wrapped in aluminum foil, it may help stop that, much like it stops the CIA from beaming things into and out of your head if you wear it as a hat.
On a serious note though, I did some standard checking with the info that he provided (which was more info volunteered from him than he asked of me actually), and unless he is really part of some big conspiracy that has somehow gotten fake info to replace major web site database info, he seems to be who he says.
Of course, as you can see from my logo in my signature, I am a 32nd Degree Mason, so it may be a big conspiracy that I am in on myself!
Actually, just throwing in my $.02 here. If you are interested, talk to him - if not, don't. From what I have seen so far, it can't hurt anything, and you never know what may come of it. My millions of shares of BKMP and billions of BKMPP are now worth basically nothing - I am not exactly scared that someone may somehow get them from me. You want to put the time & effort into a scheme to take "nothing" from me, then that's exactly what you will get. I see no reason to tear someone down when you won't even take the time to send an E-mail to him or have a phone call with him though.
Either way, good luck to all!
So, I am watching this one mainly due to the volume increase today. Based on the lack of any interest on the board, should I keep away from this one? Anyone?
News - VIPR Industries Announces Additional Financing Commitments, and Other Events
I have never seen a board here that didn't have the PR posted the second it came out, but nobody posted today's. Guess it doesn't mean anything to anyone?
Anyway, if anyone is interested, they did post a PR today about noon:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/vipr-industries-announces-additional-financing-commitments-and-other-events-2009-09-08
Sep 8, 2009, 11:59 a.m. EST
VIPR Industries Announces Additional Financing Commitments, and Other Events
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA, Sep 08, 2009 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- VIPR Industries Inc. (PINK SHEETS: VIPR) ("VIPR") is pleased to announce it has received additional financing commitments for up to $1 Million, to be followed by an anticipated non binding commitment for an additional $5 Million.
VIPR (the "Company") has to date received approximately $500,000 in financing during the previous quarter. The funding has been collected in stages from accredited investors who have provided the Company with a commitment for an additional $500,000 in funding. Once the $1 Million goal has been attained which the Company expects to be completed within the next quarter, an additional $5 Million commitment is likely to be exercised with the same accredited investors. Although the financing commitments are on a best efforts basis with no assurances that the total amount can or will be collected, the Company is optimistic which is as a result of its recent success in raising funding during what is thought to be by many in the industry as a difficult period for junior exploration and mining companies.
VIPR has been accumulating its cash reserves in expectation of utilizing these reserves jointly for further exploration on existing properties as well as additional key targeted acquisitions and/or joint ventures. The joint opportunities were not available prior to the previous quarter due to financial constraints. The more funding the company can secure, the healthier its options on various fronts. In other developments, VIPR has identified and isolated what it believes to be key target zones to be used towards any further exploration on its Singida-Londoni property in Tanzania. Additionally the Company has recently been using the services of key, well established professionals in the industry who are facilitating some key introductions on potential sought after acquisitions and/or joint venture opportunities. Further news and updates to be released as they become available.
VIPR 7.5 times avg 10 day volume today on financing news
Agreed! I just have some awkward number showing in my Schwab account & it, of course, told me I had 0 shares when I put in a sell for ATNP. Would be nice if I could trade like others are. Guess by the time it changes over with them it will be at .0001. Thanks, Schwab!
Just got back from lunch, did I miss a PR saying the F/S is canceled? Back down to .042???
Come on, west coasters, start buying!
Well, at least it stopped my postions page from showing "N/A" & it's now taking what I paid for it into account for P&L numbers. That's about as positive a step as we can expect at this point I guess! Haha!
Well, I am glad I have my Google alerts setup or I wouldn't have known about anything that's happening since I don't even check BKMP much any longer.
I too am curious about what the SEC would do with any shares they confiscate from Sandy.
At any rate, I see a lot of the old timers are here - hi, everyone! Much like a funeral, it's a shame it basically takes a "death in the family" to get a lot of us back together!
Schwab is showing their current Market Capitalization at $222,000 with a share price of .0012. That works out to there being 185,000,000 shares. I have no idea how accurate that is though or what Schwab uses to some up withe their figures.
Hey, Stock & everyone else. Been a while since I have posted, if any of you still even remember me. I have been following things on teh board sledom to never, seeing as nothing much is happening with ANY stock I own. Hope you all are doing well, had a nice Christmas holiday, and have a happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year!
I just wanted to mention that I may actually get to see how my investment money has been handled by seeing TFN finally! I have to go to Edmonton the last week of January on business.
Anyway, I still hold my position here (mainly becasue nobody will buy it from me, haha), and I'm still alive. Take care, all!
Yup, my point exactly. They would have done it that way, not suddenly come in & start scooping up huge blocks at 1 time like this to end up paying more than they have to. Plus I'm not real great with the exact rules, but aren't they only allowed to buy back something like 10% of the last 10 day average volume or something to that effect? Legally, I don't think this could be them right now.
Admittedly, I am not the kind of person to watch stocks every day, so while I have been in this for over a year, I have not kept a close eye on it. I generally buy something then sit on it until something interesting happens like what is going on here, then that's when I start paying attention, so most of the regulars here would know better what has been happening than I would. I was just putting in my own thoughts.
IMO
It is possible, but I see reasons why that would not be the case.
MM's generally would not cover at the highs. They are too sneaky & dirty to buy at these prices unless absolutely necessary. They have too many underhanded tricks available to them to be forced to cover at a high like this.
As for Sib, if they were interested in buying up shares, they could have done it quietly for quite a while now in the trip 0's, buying a few million per day without setting off alarms, causing others come in & take it to the higher levels like this.
My personal opinion is that it is either someone buying who got wind of something that will be happening in the near future, or it is the flavor of the week for people like Shakerzzz who got in low, then decided it was time to pump & get their people to start buying to jack up the price so they can make a quick profit.
This is all IMO though.
Nice to see some belief still in here. To be honest, I don't know if I am a believer or not any more, but I do know that I am in until the end one way or the other - Whether that is this taking off at some point & surprising everyone, or if they R/S my initial investment into nothing.
I see no reason to just take the 68% loss by selling when (if?) the bid comes back. I figure it isn't much different to have 30% left than nothing, when the other possibility is a heck of a profit when I didn't put a ton of cash into this in the first place.
One side thing - I am finding it hard to believe that nobody has done at least a test buy or even decided to throw some money at a .0001 stock because it has nowhere else to go but up (if no R/S) since 4/18.