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They would have paid already If they wanted to. And they'd have all the dates and it was a done deal. This is just them milking the idea. Abusing the "dividend policy".
Irrelevant Siaf can't pay 5cents.
More likely to see dilution before that.
It is exactly how it feels now: just a press release leading to nothing.
That's all it will ever be.
The problem is they produce no seafoods either...
I think the Christmas present will be what they can produce: more shares.
"Premium dilution", good for share holders. Little bit left of the "$0,55 batch", added value for share holders.
Common sense: management sells shares at 2% books = scam.
Common sense: management never buys at -98% discount = scam
Common sense: claimed 780M assets company can't get bank loans = scam
Common sense: claimed 40% EPS of total market value in one Q = scam
Common sense: abusing "dividend policy" = scam
Common sense: downfall of -98% and all promises broken = scam
Lying is no issue for them. These guys are broke and claim 780M assets and EPS in one Q that is 40% of the whole market value of the company.
And calmly talk about fruit trees in CC when share is down -98% and hundreds of millions missing.
Pathological liars.
They will publish the death of dividend.
For now.
But will keep milking the idea, hopefully some authorities will stop the madness.
Siaf/Nortus is not legit, just a trick trying to lift the share price. Nobody from Siaf has been to Angola, Siaf can't develop it's own projects, Nortus is not mentioning this anywhere.
Those news you read are just re-sending the things Siaf feeds them as legit news, they include no analysis or understanding of Siaf. Who understands Siaf understands it's a scam. There's no P/B 0,015 and P/E 0,5 companies that are broke, lie and dilute. Only scams. And scams don't get these contracts and couldn't do them even if they got them.
Fake news.
They don't grow shrimp. They make reports about growing shrimp. The reports sell shares. That's the business.
It's perfect circumstances NOT to pay dividend.
They wouldn't have done that anyway but now "everyone will understand".
Expect dilution to begin soon.
They are just passing on the press release. One of our local analyst/financial content companies did as well. I'm planning to educate them a little bit about Siaf so they see all the impossible numbers and irrational actions so they know what they promoted. Surely they won't pass these on in the future after been given Siaf reports&plans vs. actions&dilution history.
It is what it is...
I'm not the producer of it, they are.
I realized Siaf is a scam on my own, didn't need zero for that. All Siaf numbers are totally unbelievable, their real life actions contradict 180 degrees it having he assets and businesses they claim. I don't know what Zero really does, but what he says makes sense with the real life actions of Siaf and he has predicted right.
This sounds like some former version of Siaf that's "active and agile".
My guess is this is just an announcement and absolutely nothing happens.
Somehow i don't think the other party is ready for bribes&Megalies operation and in Africa if things go wrong you can literally lose your head so it needs to be lucrative. Solly would have to go over there and probably pay first something to get the goons greased and Solly is not the kind that pays first. Nobody likes broke story tellers, not even in Africa, i don't see anything happening from this.
Actions for management or for share holders.
It's highly unusual and disturbing to see "experts" make excuses for random dilution and call it "premium dilution" that's "good for you" and see the share plummeting in front of your eyes because of it.
Very weird indeed, certainly not actions that are for the best of the share holders.
What business? Who's better?
Their share selling operation based on no agricultural production has been done reasonably well. Good internet marketing, good milking of various "announcements" etc. but if you have no business and can't have yield by definition and dilution is the means to income it must come down of course and it can't last forever. TRW scam was good thinking pushing the boundaries of time trying to make it last longer.
I think they made all the right moves including selecting blue-eyed Scandinavians as target investors and listing in Scandinavia as well.
It's a decent scam and got quite high at top, it is almost admirable what they did. Especially considering some still don't get what's going on (or maybe pride not letting admit it) and promote them it's really not that bad job at all from Solly&Co.
There's good points to scam marketing. But they have nothing to do with reality.
It's not making profit it's not making anything.
Come on, if they did why they don't take bank loans? Why they can't pay in cash to Siaf instead give out shares willingly? Why it's same management and people running the.. ..what it is.. ..web page?
Why we see no customers, no harvests?
Why the market doesn't believe any of it? Siaf is 10M company now, that is INCLUDING 36,6% of TRW. Therefore maximum valuation for TRW is about same as Siaf valuation now if all else Siaf has is worth $0,00, If not TRW is worth a lot less.
Busted scam.
LOL, imagination flying high. It certainly has NOT been created for this. Solly hasn't even ever been to Angola, the other guy never been to China. Both of them never spoken about this before and Nortus still doesn't like to. And they have a company for this since 2014? =D
No way. Need to get real again.
This is a Siaf trick, probably paid for. In shares as usual.
Share holders can expect that dilution as Christmas gift.
The market isn't wrong.
Ask your mama "Can it be real that somebody is selling 780 million company for 10 million and there's also 20 million cash dividends coming and 500 million deal in Africa..."
Your mama will say "Son, that's not possible, it's common sense, they are fooling you."
Then tell your mama that "But there's in the internet this very convincing guy who says that.."
And your mama will interrupt and say "no internet for you for one month!"
You have been subjected to repetitive decisive scam selling here. Over and over every day tens of messages speculating the upsides it finally detaches people from reality. Completely ignoring the voices of reason blaming them bashers and shorters and whatever.
That's how the internet marketing works.
This is a very obvious scam if you take a step back and honestly look at the past performance and the figures.
And OF COURSE the management would be buying like crazy if they knew these things will really happen.
They know best, they have never bought.
He needs the loan sharks and other lenders. He pays them in shares which means he has to create silly stories for silly investors so they would keep buying the shares so he has currency he can pay with for the lenders.
"Mega-this, mega-that coming soon, buy shares great value", oops didn't happen but the shares investors bought paid the lender and Solly got the money. Share holders got only dilution.
It appears Siaf doesn't produce any agricultural products, it's just a scam and shareholders are just financing the shady businesses and share holders have no other part in them.
Or you can finally admit the reality. And those options aren't available in it.
Nothing to conclude has nothing to do with with Siaf.
$0,21 now. 10M corporate value including Siaf, CA, TRW 36,6%, Cattle, fertilizer, fruit trees, almost 20M of dividends and memorandum worth 500M.
That must be close to the world record of BS anyone ever has invented.
=D
I think the paid out sum was something like less than one million per dividend? Preceded and followed by heavy dilution. From their claimed profits in a year being around 100 million, that really sucked. Just an effort to keep up the appearances so people didn't blame them being a scam. And they could do only the very minimum 1 cent.
It has always been just a scam those hundreds of millions could never have existed and certainly don't exist today.
From all that previous knowledge it is very much impossible that that they would pay out $0,05 next month. And their "policy" for next year is laughable.
Just abuse of policies and misleading investors to desperately trying to keep the share price floating.
Hopefully the promoters really have invested in this because there will be reward for misleading people. This will certainly go below 0,10 next year. Below ONE CENT if the reverse split taken into consideration.
Pure pond scum the whole stock, that's the closest they get to aquaculture.
1 cent dividends followed by dilution and reverse split.
What's your total yield now? Siaf investment calculator can calculate the "dividend" ( = tiny refund from dilution) there in the total yield.
-95% loss?
EVERYTHING makes PERFECT sense.
You just need to let yourself admit it's a scam.
Assume they have only perhaps 1 aquafarm or maybe not even that, but what is done there is done just to have some "front" for the market. Assume there never was any loan money between Siaf and TRW, it's just show to flash money. Assume (like it is publicly) that Siaf and TRW are the same scams, same Solly, same aquafarm pics milked. Assume that all the other businesses are JV stuff where they have no right for cash flow or ownership.
Now after this, the share price $0,21 makes perfect sense, no dividends makes perfect sense, no bank loans makes perfect sense, no selling of assets makes perfect sense, all toxic loans make perfect sense, dilution at "1,5% of the book value" makes perfect sense, all the stories without result make perfect sense, no customers seen makes sense, no harvests make sense...
Just a scam. It mind boggling that you admit that it makes no sense but you don't allow yourselves to let it make sense.
There's reasons, motifs and sense in this world. The Siaf management is not irrational, they run a scam and this is what it looks like.
The most important thing for you now is to buy more. If you don't think the assets and businesses are a scam there really is no other way. 70 times assets value to the share price. Good EPS in both Siaf and TRW. What does it matter if they can't communicate or share is a bit depressed? Just buy more, truth will always come out.
There's no 50M anywhere. 10M companies don't have 50M cash to lend. That money is not coming "back" because it never was and never left in the first place. Solly lending Solly 50M... yes sure... Sure the problem is not that they don't have 50M (or any millions), the problem is they lent it away and can't get back from his own company.
That would be ruthless fraud on Siaf share holders or as it is more likely: silly stories for Siaf share holders to make them believe in the "big business".
172% dividend and 7000% assets, wake up, this is childish and stupid to believe in something like this and become net payers of a scam.
From "syndicate of five banks"? =D
This is already diluting toxic loan scam company. Them Garrets and Ale-Ale-handros get deals for shares and dump them right on you.
The days for bank loans are long gone.
If they get a loan, share holders will pay it.
Solomon Prince of Angola has $780M funds he wants to move to all believers for the price of 10M only. 78 times profit!!!
That's what this is about. And some complain the Prince of Angola is stupid because they have not received their money yet and investment has gone bad. They even want to give advice to Prince of Angola. =D
Damn that Nigerian Prince was a fool, we could have made so much money together, now I just lost my investment because THEY were so stupid!
=D
It's $0,00 Angola contract. Share price reflects reality. Money talks, BS walks.
On paper they have all the cash flow, assets and money to pay their bills without toxic dilution loans and they would have perfect case for any bank to give them real loans if it was what they claim it to be. But it's all so weird and shady their cash flows disappear into internal "loans" and "capex building" etc. fraudulent behavior.
There is no valid reason. It's a scam who knows what debts and shady loan deals these guys have.
Siaf and TRW are the same scam in practical sense. Used for the purpose of printing and selling Siaf shares as high as possible. And of course for loan scams too. They will always be controlled by the same management. That will never change, nobody can run such books they will be handed to the authorities when current management disappears.