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The share is 98% down, dilution is millions of shares per month, all promises have been betrayed and you demand proof that something is wrong because obviously nothing is wrong??
What?
You deserve this "success" because there is no "proof" that it is not "success".
LOL
Well, i do hope you act based on those things. Actually i do agree. The promises are criminal and the main crime is dilution. There's simply no basis for that with the reported figures.
But i don't think there's any business in TRW and not in Siaf either, hence the reality is what it is.
It's not ridiculous, it's a scam.
They have proceeded as expected. Share sales are ok and they make money for themselves.
"Dividend policy" is not binding.
And even if it was these guys surely can delay it.
You have nothing there.
TRW is another company that makes it's own decisions. You have nothing there.
They just had CC, if they had something to give they would have given it already. But they never have and never will.
Dividend was basically shot down already.
Fruit trees, come on wake up LOL.
And Siaf ALREADY OWNS 1/3 of TRW.
Shareholders got nothing from the claimed businesses and cash flows.
It's proven already they couldn't help Siaf one bit, things just got worse.
It only proved TRW is a scam as well.
There's no money, no value.
Same board of directors, same Solly, same promises they betray.
Amazing how blue-eyed people can be believing something that never delivers, never has money and always let's down will give something "any day now" because of some vague mentioning somewhere.
And shares for TRW are worthless, why wait some seremonial distribution, the market will not give a rat's *** about some unlisted desk drawer already scam proven company's shares.
It's just the same scam as Siaf.
It can't be legit, that's the answer.
Haha, didn't notice this before. Cow dung fertilizer inventory is worth that $0,25 alone in the books! It's just because of the bashers that perfectly good dung pile (or a mountain of it?) is not appreciated to the fullest!
We never doubted, O/S change and heavy volume have almost always gone together.
People who get these freshly printed shares always dump them more or less immediately.
But that's nice 1:1.
This is how the management and people knowing what's going on appreciate this share/company.
The more you know, the faster you want to get rid of the shares....
Why would a heavily diluting company pay a dividend? Even if they could it would make no sense. Just pay off loans instead of dividend, the dilution hurts you much more than the dividend would help. It would be massive sales after ex-date. Dilution at about 1% of the book value and if you believe the books the divi will cost shareholders hundreds of millions to get just few lousy millions. And the company needs it desperately if the dilute this much.
This whole thing is more crooked than a cork screw and you all know it. Just hoping for a very shady dividend announcements which are even shadier if they were actually paid out. Seems to me people who believe in this are fascinated by the early dividend paid from who knows what unpaid loan or with some scammed investors money. Or the believers have met "Solomon" in person and he has put some sociopath spell or charm on some of those who have met him.
The honest thing would be join forces as shareholders and DEMAND stopping the dilution, but people just belittle it at these unreal levels and play along with excuses. Seems to me everybody understands it's a scam and just want to cover the ugliness as company shows the way to do it and get a temporary fix to fool the market.
Weirdest thing ever to watch all this unfold...
It's a scam. The most simple explanation is usually the one that is true. And it surely is the case here. Nobody dilutes at 1% unless they KNOW there is no value. The management knows and they do this.
It's a faked assets/businesses scam which they cash in by printing and selling shares. There are no other believable explanations.
Wake up.
Ouch scam promoters being punished! =D But hey there's really goldmine and lots of hidden gems too. Just wait until they dilute until 100 million shares and share price is $0,01, then believers will be rewarded! =D
It's been $100 party marketing, $10 party marketing, now it's $1,5-$3 party marketing.
These guys promoting this here learn from their scam masters at the company.
Continuous lies without any consideration having been wrong every single time before.
And then they call us who have been right liars.
It's possible it never gets this high anymore. =D After couple of weeks it's very likely actually. Lower levels are guaranteed by their dilution and complete inability to perform in any way.
There's no goldmine. It was supposed to be "hidden gem" before, $100 party, whatever.
It's an assets portfolio/dilution scam, not a goldmine.
Should be obvious by now.
And they surely dilute you way under 20 cents with discounts and margins to loan sharks and whoever.
I have been telling you guys over 1 year already get street smart, stop believing the reports and only evaluate their real life actions which is dilution, being broke and having excuses = worth nothing.
He is pretending to run, manage and micromanage multi billion companies.
In reality he is running a 12 million dilution scam which is going down fast.
Multi billion $ stuff is hilarious though. Fruit trees and all. =D
They are worthless anyway.
Siaf owns 1/3 of TRW already. TRW 1/3 is in the Siaf share price already. No cash flow, vice versa. No harvests, no customers, just same board, same Solly, same scam. You don't need any ceremonial distribution of papers.
If TRW earnings were real Siaf would be without debt now and trading at $5-10. But the TRW earnings were NOT real. It's proven already Siaf isn't getting any help from there. TRW is just an excuse where they can make imaginary earnings disappear and claim making big business and earnings without having any money.
Perfect excuse not to have money because of the typhoon.
Of course it will be used as an excuse to them being flat broke diluting company claiming awesome businesses and assets. They can save the excuses they were about to use with this Q-report and use them for the last Q.
One vital function for a scam company is the ability to explain and have excuses for the important question: "where's the money?".
"Big flood and wind, fluit tlee die, must fix aquafalm loof." "No have money this time."
You'll see.
Selling is the only option. It is dilution scam you can go only backwards by waiting.
It was really low price one week ago, one month ago, six months ago, one year ago, two years ago... It's a scam with inflated books and no real value. Only dilution.
They fooled you.
"Selling is not an option" is just denial of the situation and will deepen the losses.
"I will not accept this price", "i will not admit this price", "i will not sell at this price so i will not lose.."
It doesn't work that way.
You need to sell to get rid of it, other option is to ride down with even more losses not admitting the reality.
The share is overpriced, company sells it at about 10 cents with discounts and in a hurry because they know it's going to zero. This is a scam for blue eyed novice investors.
P/B 0,015 =D Hidden gem? =D
It's for dummies.
=D There's no averaging down, only more worthless stuff and more losses. Promoting a scam is better done without buying.
Maybe going in China planting fruit trees might help? =D
It's overpriced RD. Game over everybody knows it's a scam.
How about admitting the truth instead this madness of losing money?
HAHAHA i can't believe these dudes don't get it, BUY MORE PLEASE!!!! It's cheaper now, please buy! =D
RD stop with these already please. You lost. I's a scam.
At P/B 0,015 they are at the end of the road with numbers game. Can't get better than that. And they need to put EPS down a little from the days it was current market value per Q (where is that money btw? =D ) because they never have money for shareholders.
However this typhoon is a lucky strike for them because it can be used as an excuse. Because as usual with next Q results they once again, as always, will not have money for the shareholders or for themselves. And dilution continues.
It's drastically overvalued. They can't do any farming of any kind with results to benefit shareholders and they dilute heavy. Only one way and it's down.
Typhoon will not affect them writing books and reports one bit so don't worry.
Worry about the dilution cause that determines how fast this goes down.
Market values it as a scam. The company itself values it as a scam by diluting at 1,5% of the book value. All promises broken, no money, no bank relations, prawns dont grow adult. New thing is fruit tree business. =) How much more obvious a scam can get? Do they need to wear “I scam you” t-shirts so you get it?
Mr. Fister LOL
Go back one year, look my messages, look Zero's message and then look RD's messages one year ago.
Look what we predict.
And look what has happened. You will spot the liar easily.
This forum is the main marketing channel for a SCAM.
Bank relations = no dilution
Actually the market laughs at the fruit tree business and cow dung inventories.
The market doesn't believe the income they claim from their operations and TRW.
Dilution at 1,5% of the book value is reality, shows how the company values itself. Company itself doesn't believe.
We just put the unpleasant truth in words what they actually must be doing.
Therefore you distort the reality, you should be able to prove that the reality is not what it is.
Track record is not good, reality has been reality, it hasn't turned the way you and the company reports describe things.
The starting point is not to believe their reports, that's foolish optimistic theory, not reality. The starting point is to believe the market and the company actions to be the reality. That means 1,5% is true. And trust is going down...
Kum112, it is not a poorly run company.
It is well planned and executed scam.
Using the same images and a video here and there + 1 aquaculture guy. And then a portfolio of other irrelevant agricultural stuff.
They have blown out their books into hundreds of millions with these simple scam elements.
Then, they use very basic psychology: although promises are constantly betrayed, compared to the huge book value "it's so cheap". Greed sets in. Even they dilute and seem dishonest, even if all of it is not true "the wins could be so big".
That's how scams work. You buy something you would never normally buy, bad management, dilution, bad track record. But they use psychology of greed. Book value is hundred of millions, earnings are there that are tens of millions. And the company is only 12 million. "I might get rich!" Unfortunately when things look too good to be true they are not true. It is just a scam using this psychology. Look back on it and everything supports this.
Actually, their business is GOOD. They have been selling lots of shares lately.
When something isn't working sell EARLY. When you're selling too late listening promoters whose motifs you don't know this is what happens. Should follow normal rules of investing and not plunge down with stock because of greed or emotions or whatever.
There isn't much options, of course it can temporarily go a bit higher but not significantly. It is a dilution scam by definition it can not go up and in the long run it will always go down.
The equipment shown is basic stuff, whether you're a mini- or megafarmer it's expected.
Peek video of some filtration unit isn't much.
What is highly alarming is their better documented stuff is just hobby level stuff, prawns not growing, fishes dying, and now with latest trial nitrites spiking and bacteria getting out of control.
That's poorly designed experiment and filtration.
All just hobby level trials, where's the publications how the xxx metric tons are produced?
The evidence of them having the big production, turnover and profits is
-Big harvests
-Happy customers
-Share holder value increasing
None of this we have seen. Nothing ties them to their claims. All evidence is exactly as Zero laid it out.
The evidence AGAINST big production, turnover and profits is massive:
-No big harvests recorded
-No customers seen
-Share price plummeting, no cash
-Dilution, no bank relations
-Even front operation farming "trials" look amateurish
-No focus on aquaculture, "we have cow dung business so let's start with fruit trees"
-CEO ramblings are even worse than aquaculture experts trials
-Long track record of broken promises