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Omni is Mia. If it got cheaper I might buy some in a few months. These things run up until they get custodianship awarded and then they fall back. Most don't make significant gains after the initial couple run UPS, Until they're at the end of the actual reverse merger process. That usually takes many months. There could be another dead cat bounce in this... But I would put too high a hopes on it.
No results...YET!!! I just don't know why you guys can't let this fall down to sub pennies. There are 2 very knowledgeable experts that have experience in the Arctic that post over on reddit. Have been pretty clear that there's not going to be a buy out until Merlin is confirmed and Harriet also hits oil that will confirm its other neighbors strike. They have also shown the detailed industry calculation of what an exploratory company can expect to get on a site that has no infrastructure set up. They're talking 10 cents to 20 cents on the high side... No dollar for share.
If you all just let this drop under a penny everybody can buy 4 times as many share in November and wait for the pump and/or buy out at the end of next season. Why you guys wanna support it now when nothing's going to happen until next year anyway is beyond me!!! You don't have to sell what you have, Just wait til you can buy 4 times as many later. That is a true long holder strategy.
P.s. I don't want YOUR shares, there's 3 or 4 billion open out there I can get without your help
I Do a little of what you call day trading. When trading more like a swing Or middle length investor, I understand how frustrating It can be when momentum Traders seem to Keep a stock from advancing..... However most of those are only looking for 5 to 10% gaines before in-and-out. But without the usually massive numbers that come in on a rising stock (hyped, pumped or not), The pricing and volume needed to Make the stock rise significantly will not be there.
I have Had a number of really good stocks based on their financials that have Gone up only 10% in 3 months Mostly because a there's little to no trades or volume on a daily basis. That same stock when finally Was made aware to the broader investor public And finally made it to the most active list on sites that track stock Media interest like Thelion.com... Ran up 400% in 4 days. With in A-day it had lost 200% of that run , and within a week It Had leveled out to still being up a 150%.
So the question is, You want to wait 6 months For maybe a 50% jump Waiting for unpromoted Long term investors only.....to see its value? OR, Have the opportunity for profit taking as high as 400% and still and up with a 100% plus return at the end of the day..... By bringing it in An array different investor types and the volume they create?
A decade ago I used to think like you as to why waste money on a promoter. The reality today is that stocks move more on momentum than they do on their actual Status! A couple days ago I berated some of the long term holders here about them not wanting to Promote this stock elsewhere in fears That it might be seen as being "pumped up"!
The only way a company is going to get To a point where investors see the financial viability of it...... Is if they actually know the company exists 1st. Companies can put out P r's but in Today's reality that doesn't go very far. If they can find a good IR firm they will be able to put fluff pieces in 2 or 3 investor magazine's with somewhat regular intervals. AND YES, THEY ARE MOSTLY PUFF PIECES!!!! But they still are seen by a lot more people and through a lot more websites Then a basic SEC info notice!!!
Remember the old saying, There is no such thing as badd news. 8 out of 10 investors reading these "articles" KNow they're usually just fluff....BUT It's usually enough to make them at least take a look and the other 2 out of 10 Take it as an honest evaluation and end up in vesting.
So yes, in their case, they need a GOOD IR firm And given the last 2 detrimental Items that came out.... They need it sooner than later. Volume in momentum is everything in the OTC!!!
If this was George Sharp or Lazer on even SS Mono, It could be one of the few that skyrocket in short term on speculation. Omnis too new...and "running silent" isnt helping there visability. Still a chance theres no skeletons and a good merger happens...but most likely we are talking months if not a year. These are so hit or miss!! I keep some in all RM from 4 organizations
Anybody notice OMNI has gone MIA with their twitter and announcements?
If you read the post you would know I'm talking about Holding management accountable for Either stupid mistakes or lack of information. Investors buy and sell all the time at different points for different reasons. The one thing that's hard to make up is when a company either give bad information or the perception Comes off as something's wrong or they're trying to hide something for not disclosing it earlier or in a manner that is not clearly detailed. Most of those that sold off are probly gone for good And for everyone that was looking at this long term we have to make up for It by bringing in that many more new investors. Companies like this struggling to get the kind of visibility that will bring in new people.... Can't afford to lose old investors Over mistakes in judgment or miscommunication. Or have people worry about what steps they might take delute shares.
Given the CEO communicates With one of the investors here I'm also gonna guess that he occasionly peruses the site to see what the sentiment is. That might be wishful thinking but if he does I hope next time he thinks about doing something that could be detriment to the stock price..... He will have my posts in the back of his head And think A little more specifically about his next move.
Fool me once shame on you, Fool me 3 times ending with a comment, "oh, my bad!".. Shame on those that don't make the company aware they're not gonna put up with the shenanigans. Nothing illegal about putting out potential measures With the express purpose of getting investor feedback.... It's done all the time!! If they're capable of being a CEO, They should be able to take a little verbal "spanking" . They're more likely to be more careful in the future hearing from angry investors then those patting them on the back saying, " its OK, You just try to do better next time"
Hes a seasoned investor... He knows these things happen..Most likely He got on the bounce as well. But it still doesn't excuse the lack of sense coming from management.
The only way stock prices goes up as if you bring in new investors. This goes back to my 1st point this morning. True it may result in more volatility, But in general, The more eyes on a stock and more information they can get about it.... The faster it will go up and hire in order to sustain larger dips.
P.S. What ticks me off the most is given the price had collapsed so much along with that response Kurt got about them redoubling their efforts.... I convince somebody else to go in on this yesterday. Now I have to explain why And convince them the CEO is not a complete M____!!
Why do so many investors think that because you show displeasure or anger over stupidity coming from management... All the Sudden that means you bailed on your entire position. I'm expressing my dissatisfaction here and a quite nice letter to the companyIn order to help AVOID... This kind of outcome in the future.
Some of us have been around long enough To realize when company mistakes like this result in an oversold situation... So yes I picked up some at 9 going if nothing else I could get back at least some of that loss.... Even if it's only a dead cat bounce!!!
It's becoming a recurring theme!!!! The 1st stock offering with no clarification, No direct communications are P r's of any substance. This new fiasco without considering what it could or would or did to the share price. The point is... Call me old school in I realize this Taboo to even think about this us today... Occasionaly, I remembered not to repeat my mistakes in the past... with help from a belt on my backside. Too many mistakes that any reasonable CEO should have saw coming!!!!!
Dear, CEO,
Fat good that's gonna do all these investors that just lost half of their value in this company. You realize you probably lost a 3rd to half of those that considered themselves long term holders, due to your Negligence . Even with the best PR in numbers in the world it's gonna take weeks to rebuild that trust and bring in a new set of confident Investors!!. May I suggest laying off partaking of You're growing product!!!!
You know it's OK to be upset about crapp like this and let management know your dissatisfaction, right? You're all dancing around this fiasco like you're stepping on broken glass And it was all simply a "misunderstanding". They knew darn well the potential that that new offering could do to the stock price... They could have and should have clarified what it was all about. Sometimes it helps companies to know you're ticked off and not always try to soft pedal to them to try to gain their favor. Them "liking you" is not going to make one bit of difference as to the stock price
More specifics...YA THINK!!! And here's an idea.... How about letting investors know what you're doing....BEFORE, Making the stock go ape sh**. And these guys are in control of millions of dollars of contracts????? "Don't worry, we're going higher a Public relations firm from the proceeds of selling a 100 million shares at .0001"
Oh Curt. Your boy has some splainin to do!! I took a position a couple months ago Taking a chance they really had all this potential. I resisted taking a much bigger position because of one reason. When I came on here I posted a number of times that the stock needs to get some visibility and that the investors here needed to spread the word and get new Eyes on its potential. Most people only saw a shell company and not what had merged into it.
At that time I was berated by 4 or 5 posters here saying stuff like, " Aww, we don't want this to be known as a pumped stock"..." We want this stock's price to go up naturally on solid information and information coming from the company". " We don't wanna burden management with too many issues or questions". ..." It will be successful on its own merits, Not by bringing in a bunch of investors rhat are only interested in day trading". I'm paraphrasing of course but you get the gist.
So how is that strategy working for everybody now. Do you want anything left to this company? Every one here should be sending emails and phone calls to management saying we need clarification and P r's....NOW!!!! Get your friggin act together!
In this Corner we have the Whiz of the OTC, George sharp. In this corner we have Mr. Lasar, The reverse merger mangler. Who is going to come out on top of this All out grudge match to win the honor of representing Goff? IT DOESNT MATTER..EITHER WAY WE HAVE A KNOCKOUT!!!
Sounds like they both won it and one of them is going to get it. The publicity of this fight should be enough to have this double or triple by now. No in these 2 powerhouses want this.... Why in the world would any Buddy be selling now. OTC traders just sometimes Don't have the brains to be doing this
They will grab on to it eventually. So is lasar the one that hes taking away from ? I can't imagine he would have problems financially
Where are all the " Sharpies" to Pick up the shares. I figure data have this to 10 cents by now
Now!!! Time to work on stop sign!!
Someone brought this to my attention And the fact they just finished filing their articles Of incorporation. It does not look like a reverse merger play. Does this company actually have any revenue or infrastructure at cetera That would warrant the market cap value? Looks like a good potential play, Just trying to get more specific information
When you're talking half. a billion cap I would think the number of companies that would reverse merger opposed to IPO or spak etc would be almost non existent.
You think little CHME will pick up some investors soon or will it have to wait until an actual completed merger?
Omni Still silent
Back to an earlier question I was Thinking about. If a new merger company comes in and the exaggerated market cap value Shows the company having a 200 P/E Or other "out there" ratio... New investors would not want to buy because it is perceived to be way overvalued (By that time it not a speculative lotto play)... Wouldn't that eventually lead to A sell off from frustrated investors not seeing gains. Starting out with A falling stock price I can't imagine would be good for any company. Just the crazy kind of things I think of cause on the surface.. It doesnt make sense.
There are definitely a lot of things that don't make sense here. Just the fact that if this was one of George's play, It would probly already be up 500%. It also seems like Omni has gone silent for some reason. They never even posted that they got custodianship of C HMP and had that come from someone else. Is that in about self not a good sign for their particular stock custodian ships?
P.s. You've been real good about schooling some of us on Nuances of these trades.
Where do we get that link to communicate with S FIO on Facebook . I think it's time multiple investors Asking questions on the site. It might help to push them in the right direction or get them to start being more aggressive in getting answers from OTC. At this point I'm not worried about ticking them off they're either going to do this are there not but a little friendly encouragement might help move things along or At least take the situation a little more seriously.
But they had a product, Production, infrastructure Exponential growth sales And were considered the leader in their technology. PLUS, Musk Had already been part of a very successful multi billion dollar company, People assume there was money to keep his operations expanding.
Nobody knows what's going into these things. Most that do are not going to have multi million dollar revenues or profits or have billion dollar Manufacturing facilities. I understand having a high valuation May help a new company but I can also see be a detriment down the road.
In the "real" world market place, MOST Stocks Value Are hypothetically valued based on a price per earnings(or other type) ratio. I realize there are the outliers that defy reasonable ratios but most don't trade beyond A certain multiple range. In theory I hear you saying that these shells can be worth millions if not billions and it doesn't matter. If a new company coming in Ends up being way over valued for its earnings or profit.... Wouldn't that keep the price from increasing for quite a while which could leave it stagnant. It would seem silly for a company with 2 million in annual profit to be trading for a market cap of 100 million.
That was a sarcastic commentary on all these reverse mergers that have no value but have 50 million dollar market caps.
Everybody here should go around posting and all the other reverse mergers that a large Stock evaluation is preferred... And little old CHME is over here with barely any value in it whatsoever. Come help us to pump this up and make it mergable!!! ;)
My understanding is a custodian has to show financial interest in the company so that's why I'm assuming the price of these stocks shoot up A-day or few before they announce a court date. And you're saying the custodian can sell these preferred or get a commission of sorts for his role. Sounds like these guys doing these reverse mergers are Super duper cleaning up financially on these plays!!! Given the custodian is supposed to have the general shareholder interest at heart. It doesn't seem quite right that he can just give a bunch of preferred shares to just anybody wanting to take this over. Shouldn't it cost the company coming inSomething more given they're going to be given controlling interest? Just doesn't seem quite right, does it?
If the higher valuation is coveted, What's to keep these stocks from being pushed to just increase indefinitely? Is any cap evaluation too much?
But what about a message or statement about having the CE removed? And it would be nice to see the actual numbers of the revenues from the various companies in the conglomerate. This reminds me of all the silly spelling and language Mistakes In the lawsuits around the last election. They really need some solid PR or information to keep this from sliding back to where it was. I hope somewhere there can get their head together and get this done.
Then who are they for.
Wasn't it kind of implied there be some information about the CE removal today? Has anybody got the answers on that Or any other announcements they're planning to make? I hate to see the momentum die out now.
Not to doubt your numbers, but Where do you get that the 900000 from Dun and Bradstreet is only The revenue from one cafe. These are a century like Dunkin donuts they have never heard one making that kind of revenue and a year. Any way to Don't want to pay the $60 for the full Report
Exactly, All of these shell and reverse merger type plays are precarious at best and automatically have a level of suspicion built into them. A seem so good about putting out per updating people in the beginning and now of a sudden nothing. That is not the sign of a good leader or someone that cares about the future implications of a depressed stock or disappointed shareholders. Having to raise this money through stock offering was a minor red flag for me already... The silence isn't helping anything. Has anybody had investor relation contact through the company our website at cetera?
This may seem a silly question to you, How do current shareholders and officers of the merging company coming in, Get enough shares to maintain control?. Wouldnt they not want the Share price to be the lowest they could to be able to buy into it? Is there some other legal way for them to get a bunch of the shares without having to pay for them? Or is the new custodian at cetera allowed to give them out of thin air a significant number of shares or do they do it through giving them preferred shares that can be converted to enough for controlling interest? I think this is where the big confusion for me lies.
I'm trying to be patient with this stock but it's killing me. The poster that has the personal connection with the inside guy.... What is he saying about all of this, Financials mergers at cetera?
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It would be real nice to see some actual financial revenues from the conglomerate. Revenues of $20M With a realistic P/R of 5 for an unknown company, (for the US investor) would get reasonably to 20 cents. A "profit" of 20 million would get us to 60++ cents. In the short term I'd be plenty happy with a 20. Be careful not to be too wild estimations on this till then or it may be accused of a PnD.