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How so?
Explain that? What exactly does that mean?
Are you accusing him of stealing money now? What exactly is that accusation?
Dianne, where is this phantom moneysnip press release??????
Come on, where is it?
I think this is total BS. I smell BS. All talk no show
How anti climactic. Isn't it.
Where is it?
If Seth sold some Shares when he was no longer an affiliate, then he didn't have any reporting requirements
The filings made it very clear that he wasn't an affiliate after May 2014
If he sold some then he sold some!!! What is the problem here?
Seth has done right by shareholders always. He has the right to sell shares if he wants. So do you. So do I.
This is bordering on crazy.
Seths holdings were disclosed in July 2015 in the proxy statement
Hope that helps
How do you know?
Maybe the company ripped him off
Shouldn't we wait to see the arbitrators decision?
Why is there always this rush to condemn him?
Makes no sense
I think you need to be careful accusing Seth of wrongdoing or somehow being part of a scam like Spongetech
I believe that Seth is a very honest person.
Please provide us all with a link or links that show that Seth Shaw was prosecuted for involvement in Spongetech either civil or criminal.
You have made numerous references to such. And I think it's outrageous unless you can show some sort of link that proves that Seth was found guilty or prosecuted for wrong doing
I really hate seeing stuff like this. Seth may have been a shareholder, fine. Many people are shareholders of stuff like that or worldcom or tyco or Enron.
But at this point you Should really be able to provide us with a link or concrete evidence.
Thank you
I am very serious
Seth Shaw is anti reverse split and always has been.
He was not the person who advocated the reverse split for BVAP and thought it was awful. It was one of the main reasons he resigned in August
Seth cares about shareholders a lot. And that's the only reason this company is still alive
DECN to me seems like a complete scam
Almost like management has been trying to hide something very very bad
Just has that stench to me and Tauriga would have been doomed if it had done formal business with a scam
That is ridiculous
Seth has done a miraculous job to give this Company a Shot at success
None of what you wrote is remotely accurate
The stock was delisted from the OTCQB to the OTC PINK LIMITED INFO Tier
That is known as a DELISTING
Cherry Bekaert -- Bill Meyler forced Tauirga to hire Cherry Bekaert and the previous CEO Sung signed the engagement letters. I'm sure you were aware of that from the filings
Cowan Should have voluntarily reimbursed those fees as they were part of the 2014 financial statements. Cowan chose to withhold all Info about malpractice from Tauriga. And they will have to pay dearly for being dishonest and making a bad situation worse
Some of the comments you post are totally incorrect. Not sure where you get this info from
I won't respond anymore because it's the same merry go Around. You are wrong about your facts.
Wait a minute. That's not true at all
When Seth became CEO of Tauriga in July 2015, The previous CEO had left him with vertually no cash and what the company did have had to be spent on the proxy to amend authorized.
Just days after Seth became CEO the Pcaob censure came out and the company was delsited on July 31 of 2015
Seth had to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to settle Company debts, most notably cherry bekaert and pay for the significant audit and accounting bills associated with catching up on filings and of course Paying legal bills to the lawsuit
Your quote "Otherwise Sethie has accomplished nothing. No cash in bank, no business, no business model ..."
Haven't we established that Seth had to keep the company afloat in light of what happened the past 18 months. And blaming Seth for "no cash" is very misleading and IMO highly inappropriate.
He kept the company afloat with his own blood and sweat and he deserves all the credit in the world
It's Admirable
Tauriga shareholders are very lucky to have a CEO with the integrity and decency of Seth Shaw. That's why I'm here. And the only reason.
To clarify again
Seth Shaw was paid more than 3,000,000 shares by Seafarer to amicably settle that dispute in 2013
Seth Shaw is the plaintiff in the ROII dispute
And Seth Shaw was defendant in Goldspring dispute 12 years ago and he settled it for $75,000 in June of 2006
My question is - what exactly is the issue here?
Over a 12 year period, this all seems well within normal business function to me
Are you suggesting somehow that these 3 events are down sort of crime? What's the problem exactly?
I'm just confused about what the big deal is. I don't get it
Also -- where is Moneysnip's bomb shell press release??
I'd love to see it. I'm calling BS all around.
Just so I'm clear
Is Seth Shaw supposed to work for free?
I think he has been more than fair and considerate to shareholders with his compensation. Clearly he has taken much less that he could have
Also, if Seth Shaw chose to legally sell some shares when he was no longer an afiliate, then that's is perfectly fine.
I think these criticisms of him are totally wrong.
A foundation is being created so business can be built
Seth has had to save the comPany the past year plus. So obviously the environment was not conducive to building business
Watching the stock everyday waiting for a sell order isn't productive
It means nothing
I am fairly confident that Seth has no current plans for a reverse split.
He is correct in his opinion that revere splits are generally extremely counter productive
You are wrong. Plain and simple.
Cowan Gunteski caused the Delisitng.
this is a waste of time to even discuss. So black and white
A few comments here
I'd recommend you ask Stella Sung about the mysterious sale of the 9% ITL stake. It wouldn't surprise me if that money went into her pocket through her insane salary and endless benefits. Just a hunch
And the these 700,000,000 shares you refer to. They are not Seth's fault. And let me ask you this? Does he get any credit for keeping the company alive the past 18 months.
It seems to me like Seth has single handedly kept the company afloat. Tell me, does that not Count for anything.
Also, I know the Typenex situation very well. As I was so angry in 2014 when Stella Sung made that catastrophic arrangement. I must tell you that I discovered back then that Stella Sung introduced the Company to Typenex in 2013, Stella Sung single handedly negotiated that disastrous note, and Stella Sung even personally signed the note on behalf of the Company in 2013.
IMO Stella Sung didn't give a damn about anyone other than her greedy self.
My point is that you are not correct with your Assumptions. Do some research.
There won't be a press release
I'm calling a bluff
You'll be waiting till the end of time.
If Moneysnip had anything credible, he would have already aired it
There will be nothing
And the stuff that you listed is small civil cases. Some he is plaintiff and one defendant.
Your organetix reference is misleading. Seafarer sued the transfer agent for an injunction and ended up paying Seth 3,700,000 to settle. Seth ended being paid by Seafarer
Let's make sure facts are correct here
Money snip -- where is this phantom press release????????????
Very simple
The company was delisted on July 31 of 2015 and the stock declined, lost most of its trading liquidity, and could no longer raise money relying on rule 144
These are facts and the judge will see them as very damaging to a tiny company.
If it were so meaningless to be on otcqb vs. OTC pink limited info tier, then why do companies spend so much money and time being compliant with so many rules to maintain that listing
Your argument that the Delisitng had no damage value simply because the stock still traded is an incorrect argument. And not grounded in reality
The company has made it clear that it won't be fully reporting until Q2 fiscal 17 is filed
All of us are aware of this. Read the press releases.
So the Company will not be current after November 14 until Q2 is filed
this has been disclosed already. It takes time to complete financial statements and audits
That is a very one sided and over simplistic analysis
I think that blaming Seth for everything is inappropriate
For example, where is Stella Sung mentioned in this - especially with her $14,000 per month salary and abysmal performance??
And where is Seth given credit for keeping the company alive this last year and a half?
I think Seth deserves credit as well.
That would be a very reasonable approach because if the circumstances
That would make perfect sense
I wouldn't be surprised if OTC Markets granted a very reasonable request to the company
Also please refrain from calling Tauriga a "conpany". I find it offensive
Once again the company was not delisted due to minimum bid price
It was delisted due to its failure to file its fiscal 2015 form 10-k
This discussion is moot
Seth Shaw is a good person and an honest person
Any fraud that you may have uncovered, will have nothing to do with him
Not even the slightest question in my mind
That is absolutely incorrect
The stock was under a penny at the end of July 2015. Yes - from the bungling year and a half of Stella Sung (who I think is a disaster in every way of the word)
However Tauriga was not yet at risk of being delisted due to sub penny share price. Tauriga had at least several more months to comply with min bid price and there was no imminent risk of being delisted at that time
In fact perhaps he company could have completed an acquisition had it not been for the Cowan malpractice feuled Delisitng and perhaps the share price would have been well over a penny prior to the necessary time.
More importantly, Tauriga would never have been delisted anyway due to share price as the company could have decided to reverse split the stock to comply. This is very common.
So in summary -- Tauriga was never at risk on being delisted last July from share price so that analysis is completely wrong.
Please get the facts straight
Seth was never a Board Member of Breathe -- check the filings
I don't disagree with you -- Breathe was an embarrassment and Seth should be embarrassed for ever being involved with a moron like Josh Kimmel
Seth is not perfect and will not be successful if he cannot judge people Better
But where I feel the Line gets crossed is when Seth is accused of committing "massive fraud"
That I can promise you - never happened
You don't know Seth, I do. I can tell you with 100% confidence that Seth did not commit fraud. Saying that I would not be surprised in the least if Josh Kimmel or someone else involved with Josh Kimmel did.
I think the exact opposite is true here
If Seth Shaw were a "gold digger" he certainly would not have continued as CEO of Tauriga
The discovery process will prove that Seth Shaw and Tauriga shareholders were the victim of malpractice and a brazen cover up attempt that caused a lot of damage
And because of that, the company had no chance to build value for 18 months
I am willing to bet on it in fact
There is no argument that is rational to blame Tauriga or Seth for what Cowan did
I'm sorry but that it not reasonable
I strongly strongly disagree
Seth is not trading stock or promoting stock. He was trying to make an acquisition last year to create shareholder value after Stella Sung pillaged and virtually bankrupted the company with great efficiency.
Seth immediately lost his ability to raise capitals and rely on Rule 144 upon becoming CEO because Cowan caused the company to lose its fully reporting status. These are called facts
Juries aren't dumb and they will be outraged at the hideous conduct of Cowan Gunteski and heartened at the stand up and honorable nature of Seth Shaw
This is exactly why I am here right now. I see this clearly and any attempt to defend Cowan is very wrong.
Wow - great job Dianne
That's only the 5th filing that $133,000 has been disclosed in
I read that too. I also read that this $133,000 was already repaid
That money was used to save the company from Typenex (another scumbag fund) in June of last year
Because the previous CEO Stella Sung, who in my opinion is an imbecile, decided to give Typenex some crazy settlement. I remember when it happened real time.
I have no problem lambasting her - she richly deserves it. She is a poster child for ripping off shareholders for her own benefit.
In terms of god awful CEOs, I have never seen her equal. I actually blame her for a lot of the problems today'
I am also a friend of Seth's. He is a top Notch person and very bright. And I am a supporter of the company
It at first confused me to read all these negative posts but after spending some time reviewing them I have discovered that they simply aren't true and I'm not sure why there is such a persistent effort to target Seth Shaw
But I'm going to back him up continually and challenge these
Without Seth Shaw as CEO, I wouldn't invest a penny in this company. I wouldn't even keep the symbol on my computer screen.
Non sense
Cowan Gunteski is wholly responsible to insure that it complies with the rotation rule. You should also read Cowan Gunteski's internal controls
Plain and simple - Cowan is paid for providing a service (independent auditor) and is responsible to comply with the rules
And not only did they not but they concealed their error as well. Blaming Seth Shaw for Cowan's conduct is idiotic.
Non sense. We shall see what he court says.
I don't like to see the indiscriminate blaming of Seth for these things. If It is really Seth's fault then what you are essentially doing is trying to make an excuse for Cowan Gunteski
That's absurd
That is a complete misrepresentation of what the filing actually says. These shares were not issued primarily for investor relations
Secondly since the Delisitng last year the company only had equity available to hold a team together
These conclusions are completely incorrect and not based on facts or on the contents of the filings
I have read the filing carefully
You are missing something
Cowan Gunteksi represented in writing to the Comapny before signing off on fiscal year 2014 financial statements that The firm was fully compliant with all independence regulation inclusive of rotation rule.
That written confirmation is critically important. I can assure I have done my due diligence on this
Seth Shaw is not to blame for this in any way and the court or jury will be able to consider everything properly
I'm not sure what the case is ultimately worth. But the facts are pretty damning against the old audit firm
On a positive note, the company has filed its Q1 fiscal 17 quarterly report this morning. Next one is the fully reporting trigger.
I have cautioned Seth not to rush into any deals or transactions because he can ruin all this hard work with a mistake. And that would be a travesty
I asked the same question.
Cowan Gunteksi assured the company in writing that the firm was independent. And if you read the deposition that Seth made public, you'll find Meyler admits that he concealed the PCAOB investigation from the company.
Cowan Gunteski made the decision to deceive the company - in hopes that there wouldn't be a major issue
Cowan did the wrong thing all around.
Blaming Seth Shaw for that??? Absolutely not. That would very unreasonable.
Seth should not be attacked all the time when he is not to blame. How would any of us feel if someone were constantly doing that to us
I happen to like Seth personally and that's why I'm here. I think a lot of this stuff against him is downright unfair
What's your time frame?
I made a lot of money by investing in Seth's 2005 Lightbridge
private placement. At one point stock was up 1800%
Several years later was still much higher
Kodak is lower now than it was in 1960. So is GM
Define your time frames please
Many of Seth's deals provided investors opportunities to make a lot of money. Why do you think I'm here now.
If you want to chat about it I can go over some charts with you. No one said Seth is perfect. But he's not some crook or some loser. And I don't understand why he only gets lambasted and doesn't get credit for the things he does well.
That doesn't seem right to me. Sorry.
That's absolutely false!!
Let's get the facts the straight here and stop with opinions. Facts are needed
The company had to re-audit fiscal 2014 obviously. Then had to review all the 10Qs from Fiscal 2014
Then had to make adjustments to fiscal 15 10Q which was filed in May of this year
Then all of 2016 and now Q1 and Q2 17
Absolutely is 15 quarters
It's clearly factual that fiscal 2014 had to be re audited. As we all know those financial statements were not independent. So start from there
Yes. 15 quarters.
Let's get facts straight here please. It's not difficult
Understand your frustration. Everyone should be able to buy or sell stocks in his or her portfolio.
I ask you, who is to blame for this?
If it's not Seth then maybe you should be supportive. All of us would have completely worthless shares without his hard work and dedication.
That's my point.
When does Seth get credit for pulling through the last 17 months and Keeping this alive. Those of us in the financial industry actually understand how difficult and unusual it is to see someone achieve what Seth has. Iiterally on his own
That's why I sometimes feel obligated to mention this.
If someone reads IHUB they would think Seth is a crook and a horrible person. And I can tell you the exact opposite is true.
Once again, I ask why LMAO?
Does Seth not get any credit for Sticking with this and making progress?
He has to fix the delinquency issue before any company will take Tauriga seriously?
How about giving Seth credit for what he has been to Achieve?
I think he has shown himself to have a lot of character and this is someone that I want to back
Instead of criticizing Seth all the time, with respect to becoming fully reporting
How about complementing him for actually raising the money, staying the course, and pulling it off. He made it happen and I don't know of anyone else who would have cared as much about shareholders as he does, in order to make that happen.
Look at the IHUB date page.
He had to re-audit fiscal year 14, file 10k for fiscal year 15, 10qs for q1 q2 q3 of fiscal year 16. Then 10k for fiscal year 16. Then Q1 and Q2 for fiscal year 17.
I don't think anyone can ever blame him for that predicament. Cowan gunteski caused that mess without question. That is certain
Can we be fair and actually give the guy some credit? This is very unusual to see a company catch up like this. Very unusual