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brig where have you been?
I herd from BWR recently..
I take that as a no... thanks.
Can anyone answer the following questions:
1> When does this co plan to release their 1st Q Report with numbers (a date)?
2> Do they expect a profit or a loss on their 1st Q Report (how much per outstanding share)?
To those in touch with Trevor Bone... can he give his expectations on this. I don't care to hear anymore predictions or targets on the pps anymore.
So does that mean the 1st Q Report won't come out until 2006?
With all the talk over this thing (news, PRs, BWR, BlueChip... Dwudman, etc.). The P/S trend is no different than any other BWR stock.
To those of you who are in touch with Medify (Trevor Bone), can anyone ask him when they plan to release their first Q Report (with numbers). If this company doesn't release real quarterly reports with numbers, I can't see staying in this.
I tend to agree more with bax. I recently bought another 10K shares at .56. I don't mind being patient with a flat or sideways stock... but I've herd the be patient talk back in the .70s. My original position is in the .90s.
There must be something going on because there is volume. Are insiders or people in the know buying at relatively low prices from people like us... or are they selling at relatively high prices to people like us? Who is moving in and who is getting out?
I am of the belief that hopefully more sooner than later, pos quarterly reports will come. I hope I am right.
Read the 4th paragraph of this link:
http://www.fool.com/foolu/askfoolu/2001/askfoolu010221.htm
I am still long 10K shares (.90 post split)... obviously I am not as happy as everyone posting here who got in recently at these new lows. However I am considering getting more... (if ~.50 post split) but I won't chase it on a run up. The reason is because I believe they will make money... based on the PRs (contracts, partnerships) comming to fruition.
I have a question... the Medify web site posts 500,000,000/80,000,000 authorized/outstanding shares. I also read the 500,000,000 authorized shares on pinksheets.com before the split. As a matter of fact, pinksheets.com also notes the date of this figure well before the split execution date (pinksheets.com is down now so I can't get the date now). When a stock splits, the number of authorized shares (the whole pie) splits, not just the outstanding shares (part of the pie)... So my question is... either the Medify website is wrong ( correct is 2 billion authorized post split) ... or pinksheets is wrong (correct is 125K authorized pre split). I am hoping that the Medify website figure is correct. In that case, should they not correct pinksheets.com? If this is not corrected, this is a red flag for me.
I've seen this before and never asked about it but it always bothered me. Based on the date for the authorized shares, does this mean 2 Billion shares today (post split).
Authorized: 2 billion shares (post split)
outstanding: ~80 million shares (post split)
Is this anything we should be concerned over (anyone)? About 4% of the company is essentially public?
I never felt comfortable about this but after doing a little research here is what I know:
(Positive Side):
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1) I understand google has a disproportionately large ratio of authorized/outstanding shares (but I don't know how much... anyone else?). Yet their stock price almost tripled within a year.
2) Earnings per share are calculated based on outstanding shares not authorized shares.
(Negative Side):
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1) On the negative side, and I am not exactly sure how this works... I believe that insider stock options are exercised based on authorized shares... which can mean stock dilution.
Thank You,
This is jmo... After the big rally today, this pattern looks like someone is trying to drive down the price.
The spread is pretty tight with low volume transactions. The price is trying to drop with low volume transaction. Then all of a sudden, someone decides to dump 45K shares at .51, after it has been trading in the .60s. If they wanted out they would have gotten out in the .60s. Immediately after the dump, its scooped back up again at .54 (tight spread).
Folks:
Click on the level II quotes. Here are the last 15 trades. Maybe some one can make sense out of this. The 45K shares traded back to back followed by a 500 share trade is interesting. Too bad we can't tell which are the sell/buy trades. Any help or insight is appreciated.
(still 10K shares long @.90 post split)
0.57 500 14:58:06
0.54 45000 14:57:43
0.51 45000 14:57:37
0.56 500 14:57:32
0.56 1000 14:57:04
0.58 500 14:56:53
0.57 500 14:56:35
0.61 1000 14:38:50
0.59 1000 14:32:43
0.58 100 14:32:30
0.61 1000 14:32:27
0.58 500 14:32:24
0.61 1000 14:32:10
0.58 500 14:32:07
0.60 1000 14:31:34
Anyone have any ideas on why the big sell off?
-11% yesterday on 1.3M volume.
-9% this morning on 390K volume (and counting).
the last post is in reply to msg 1088
How can you tell if a web site looks real or if it has pnd written all over it... I can't tell at all but I would like to...
What about FBGO's website, or GALB's website, or BTLGF's website... all pnds... what is the difference.
For what its worth, when these picks fall off the cliff, I don't believe it is from anybody shorting like they tell us. It is from dumping. Here is what I know from ameritrade:
(A) Ameritrade does not allow shorting of non-marginable equities (i.e. OTCBBs or pinkies)
(B) Ameritrade does not allow shorting on equities priced under $5.
i.e., We are told of price drops because of some one shorting, when in actuality, it's insiders dumping.
I'm still staying long with this... 9 months. I still expect to see the profitable quarterly reports with the stock taking off like they claim. If this thing evaporates, we were pumped and dumped.
If this thing posts profit (beat estimates etc.), pink or listed, it will go up (check out TRLG - a pink posting profit). If not it will evaporate.
I almost bought more at .75, but I don't like the down-trend. I will keep what I have for 6-9 mos and see what happens.
As far as I know Blue Chip is the investor relations contact for both of these companies. I think they brought them both public. I would think/hope they want them both to succeed. If I am wrong, I wish some one would tell me with something concrete.
HLLF has backing from HSBC so I would think they are OK.
toofoolishtoo - how does this concern MFYS? In your post you mention:
(this DOES concern MFYS as it involves a direct contact to them)
So you don't want anyone saying anything negative on stocks you're long in but you have no problem bashing stocks you're not involved with?
MFYS backed off after their anouncement of the split and then doubled after the split.
HLLF (the "new deal") has not performed as well as the MFYS launch but it's still up ~60% from it's launch...and
Blue Chip is just as positive on it.
folks;
I don't believe that the large price fluctuations has anything to do with the BWR subscribers. I have been following the BWR picks since the first one in November 04.
Every one of these IPOs makes a short term run, takes a dump and then stabilizes or keeps dieing. So far MFYS is the only one that looks like it is stabilized at ~.75, which by the way is still up above its IPO (.75 X 4 = $3.00). This stock and HLLF are so far the only two stocks I have had success with.
My strong opinion of this behavior (run up and falling off a cliff) is that some-one or some-ones (insiders) are shorting or manipulating these stocks at the subscribers expense. And we don't know when it will happen. Sometimes its 2 weeks, sometimes its 2 days. I lost a rediculous amount of money with BWR's first pick (GALB) because I bought in at 3.60 on the 8th day. The same day it dropped to 1.20, which is where I got out. Then it came back up to 2.50 and eventualy 3.00. Today it is ~.30. I had no idea it would do this nose dive, and I don't believe any of the other new subscribers thought of this as well. The second pick I got in at 2.50, the stock went up to ~3.20, then tanked to ~2.00, I lost ~$2,000. The last pick was the worst, FBGO, I got in at 1.12, it went up to ~1.20 the second day, the third day I got out at ~.45 (10,000 shares). I am doing OK with MFYS (10,000 long), and I am doing OK with HLLF (15,000 long).
MFYS did not do much of a dip when FBGO came out and it didn't do much of a dip when HLLF came out. When it dropped from 1.50 (post split) to ~.80 (post split) there were no BWR picks.
I think shorting (selling stock that the seller does not own) should be illegal. If a persone wants to short, let them go find optionable stocks and play puts. That's what they were designed for and there safer than shorting.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=HLLF
(click on news)
OR
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=HLLF.PK
(click on news)
folks;
Halal board of directors declare 4 for 1 stock split
Jun 16 2005 4:00PM ET
I think I can answer your question. Whenever you buy/sell any stock, there is an ask price and a bid price. The ask is ALWAYS higher than the bid. The ask/bid price is set by the MM. The buyers pay the ask, the sellers get paid the bid. The MM pockets the diffence. He is essentialy a broker who hooks up buyers and sellers. He pay the sellers the bid price and charges buyers the ask price.
If the stock was trading at .73 this morning and you had a buy order at .76, the .73 may have been a sell order, not a buy order. The ask might have been .78.If the stock is in a down trend, you may have got your price. But if it is in an up trend, there may be more buyers than sellers, so the bid/ask price goes up. Hope this helps.
To get the bid/ask price go to pinksheets.com. They are delayed by ~20 minutes. To get the immediate bid/ask, you need to call your broker.
Hey AXCLR846, if you don't mind my asking how deep are you in these?
I'm in at 10,000 shares MFYS (.90 post split) and 15,000 HLLF (1.20 opening day). I originaly had 30,000 shares of HLLF but sold half yesterday at between 1.55 and 1.60. My plan is to hold MFYS for ~ 6 mos to 1 year. I plan on holding HLLF ane riding a post split run (maybe 2 weeks). I will also keep some for the long term also. I missed the big gains with MFYS because I sold too early, before the split. The split is suposed to be anounced this week and then execute next week. I herd they wanted to wait for it to go to ~3.00 like MFYS did.
I'm OK with knowing when to buy, but I don't know when to sell. I typicaly get paniky and sell too early. So far I have done that with both of these.
Sorry for the long message.
Why do some messages get deleted?
Also, how can we check the fundamentals of MFYS or any OTCBB. I only know of pinksheets.com. I herd on this message board that MFYS is trying to get listed with NASDAQ. Someone told me that one of the requirements is that a stock has to be above $1 a share for 30 consecutive days.
be safe.
Anyone know what the sign up to HLLF email list is (above link)?
BWR is my informant. I sold half my position (15,000 shares) at ~1.60 because I had too much at risk (30,000 shares relative to my entire portfolio). I now have 15,000 shares which I am going to keep.
I got in early with MFYS (20,000 shares at 1.30) but pulled out way too early (~1.80 pre-split)...I was afraid of another BTLGF. I got back in (10,000 shares) after the split at .90... which I am keeping and forgeting about...based on the contracts they have I'm expecting them to do well within the year. Based on the news with HLLF, I'm expecting them to do the well also.
I believe that ultimately the bottom line for any stock OTC or listed is that if the company makes or will make money, the technicals will follow (it will go up). TRLG is an OTCBB, they went from ~1.00 (august 04) to ~15.00 (today). GOOG is a Nasdaq. They went from ~100 to ~300. Both of these companys release positive quarterly reports. I never bought GOOG, but I bought in 1000 shares of TRLG at $4.00 in Oct 04. Unfortunatelt I sold them at 3.80 in Nov 04 on a dip. I think TRLG and GOOG are overpriced right now. I'm hoping we are in MFYS and HLLF at the ground floor.
I own 30,000 shares of HLLF. Any one know why the stock tanked...even with good news.
I also herd the stock may do a split like MFYS did. I was and still am expecting...hopeing for a similar run up like MFYS did (1.50 post-split = 6.00 pre-split).
I still have 10,000 shares of MFYS (bought at .90 post split).
Anybody want to guess what this thing is doing or is going to do?