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Yep. Amazing as that may seem.
Are there people on this board who actually believe PAIM is a real company?
lol, what happens to Canucks and people who don't qualify as "accredited investors"?
Well, it has to be made public, if investors are expected to "subscribe" to it, though I don't really see how they can do that, since there's no signature page.
There doesn't seem to be any restriction, since the Offer alludes to possible dilution.
Thank you, KV.
It appears that the whole debenture deal doesn't go down until December. So why are the brokerages segregating 90% of investors' stock NOW? If I'd owned any pre-June 15 stock, I'd be complaining. Vociferously.
The Rights Agreement says that qualified investors need to subscribe to it or not. Now how're they supposed to do that?
LOLOLOLISSIMO!!
Could you please reveal your true identity?
I'm exactly who I say I am.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/10/26/250019/index.htm
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting it.
Kinda looks as if that "exchange" didn't actually happen on 15 June, doesn't it?
Yep....right round the bend.
No.
...did NASD say that the new system might take a few months to get working?
It can't be completely coincidental that the barrage of trading restrictions by large brokerage firms seem to have hit high gear at the same time the pink short reporting requirements were initiated.
But why? The short interest reported is for the most part negligible.
Yep. Worth a whopping $200K.
but that is their only US real estate and that that asset is verifiable.
You seem to have an attitude problem. Why all the mindless personal attacks?
No, that was for the SHO list. FTDs were "grandfathered", which is reasonable enough, given that naked shorting wasn't illegal before the new regulations were passed.
As for the OTC short interest list, it isn't relevant. Short interest in any stock is what it is on any given day. It ain't cumulative.
That was the short interest for the first couple weeks of July.
No it wasn't. It was the total short interest in PAIM as of 11 July.
I think those posts should stay, though. There was plenty of commentary casting doubt on the authenticity of the "PR", so no one's likely to become confused.
I'm not even sure I'd like to see him booted; maybe he needs to be given more rope. No doubt he's spreading his BS all over the Web. At least we can find him easily if he continues to post here.
which PR are you talking about?
This alleged PR:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12461750
I don't know where 500 found it, but it seems more than a little doubtful. Notice the wonky capitalization, and the lack of the kind of info usually found in PRs. It appears to have originated with the "stockholder11" character, who subsequently tried to "explain" that he worked for the company and had released it prematurely.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12462559
The obvious point of this "release" was to goose the stock price. And it worked. As I've said before, people have gone to jail for doing that. I think I'll report "stockholder11" to the SEC. It's stuff like this that gives brokerages legitimate reasons to restrict trading.
I haven't really been keeping track, but it seems to me that when they did this in the past, the stocks in question were genuinely dicey in a way that could be demonstrated. For example, many brokerages refused to let customers buy CMKX when it was under threat of revocation. That makes sense.
But what they're doing now seems to me to be different. Many on the board I pointed you to believe it has something to do with the publication of the OTC short interest list, but that doesn't do it for me. If anything, the list showed that short interest in nearly all OTC stocks is negligible.
My guess is that somebody, for reasons that will probably never be known, had a very bad idea, and somebody else approved it. Obviously the people answering the phones don't know much, if anything, about it, and so are giving callers a great many different and conflicting "answers".
What "barrage" are you talking about, and why on earth would short reporting showing negligible shorts impact broker decisions.
There actually does seem to have been a pretty dramatic increase in the number of stocks brokerages like Ameritrade are "restricting". And to make things worse, they're not being consistent; they're "restricting" them some days and not others.
You can see Ameritrade's list from the other day in the iBox here:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=6401
Yep. Some move, some don't. Some move only once, some more than once. In the case of PAIM, I think the critical elements were the PAIV story ("PAIM!! The next PAIV!!) and all the confusion and hype surrounding the "buyback".
will you LOL to yourself and admit that you were wrong about this company?
The "company" and the share price are two entirely different things.
Have a great weekend!
That site has the most amazing collection of different chile plants I've ever seen. Just about everything imaginable.
Oooooh, that's a good idea! I'm thinking of slipping some into salads as a surprise for guests. Maybe I'll paint little eyes on 'em.
God forbid anyone should eat a whole one raw, though. They're VERY hot.
I've seen the TV stories about the flooding in El Paso. Very weird. I thought they practically NEVER got rain.
Yes, I have one Hungarian wax plant that I picked up at the supermarket after I realized that ALL the peppers I'd ordered were either jalapeno-hot, or way hotter. The poor thing was pretty scraggly at first, but now it's doing better.
I just love my caterpillars:
http://www.chileplants.com/search.asp?ProductCode=CHIARG&SizeID=&ChileForm=&SearchMode=&...
They look even more like worms in real life, and the plant is extremely prolific.
lol, maybe we could split it. Sometimes we get way too much. I don't mind the rain, unless it goes on for days, but I hate the humidity.
This is what the Black Caymans look like when ripe. Only three of mine have ripened so far, but dozens are close behind:
http://www.chileplants.com/search.asp?ProductCode=CHIBLCA&SizeID=&ChileForm=&SearchMode=...
Well...it's been just awful here too, but the humidity's so high that nothing much browns out. I'm sure I've said it before, but I think southeaster Pennsylvania should be declared a National Rainforest.
Ah, I'm wrong. They ARE supposed to be yellow:
http://www.chileplants.com/search.asp?ProductCode=CHICAR&SizeID=&ChileForm=&SearchMode=&...
Right. A prepubescent Peter, so to speak. I'll keep you updated on all peppa-rekated developments.
Today the Carmines started to ripen. I think they were supposed to be red, but it looks as if they'll be yellow. That's good; I don't have any other yellow ones.
Most of mine are growing fairly straight, though some are curving at the tip. I suppose there's considerable variety in size and shape, since they haven't been widely cultivated. I got mine as a five or six inch plant. It's now at least three feet tall, which is at least one foot taller than it's supposed to be. That could be why the fruits are growing fairly slowly.
God knows. I'm REALLY disappointed. They could have cut a deal with Enzyte or something.
I think you don't get the, ah.....full effect till they're full grown and ripe. This is the photo from the place I bought 'em from:
http://www.chileplants.com/search.asp?ProductCode=CHIPTR&SizeID=&ChileForm=&SearchMode=&...
The plant is now several inches taller than the balaustrade... And the tepins are chest high. Soon I won't have to bother with clothes when I water them, which will be a mercy in this heat.
Ummmmmm, I guess I'll use some as I go along. Dry some. Freeze some. Make hot sauce. And probably give a lot away, if I can find takers.
Yes, I have:
http://www.ratboyz.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=15
The latest there are from 20 July, but I didn't get them up till almost the end of the month. By now everything's even bigger.
The Peter is a much larger plant than it's supposed to be--bigger than what you see in the photos--and finally I have fruit. None are, um, mature yet, but naturally as soon as they are I'll have pix. Everything else has peppas now; some ripe and ripening, some still green yet. The Black Caymans are gorgeous, a deep mahogany brown and very shiny.
lol, I know. Perhaps we're just less committed.
That kind of ignorance needs to be stamped out. By anyone who sees it.
You seem a bit obsessive about who posts to whom. This is, after all, a discussion board, and anyone can join in.
That's Equitable Mining. Whether or not they have anything going with PAIM remains to be seen.
Or ever.
Oh yes....I'd forgotten about that...