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you don't get it do you? I'm sorry it's hard for some investors to understand. I'll try and explain it in very simple tearms, then I will link you straight to the SEC website on when an 8k is required.
lets look at what we know as fact:
according to sfor and their filings. They are not profitable, and revenues are horrible. This has been a FACT for many years.
that means according to the SEC if SFOR was to receive contracts, deals, sales, money from heaven, etc that was outside of the NORMAL sfor money, they would be required to file an 8k on that.
We have an example of this with SFOR already, the MSFT settlement, the settlement itself was under a NDA, yet SFOR had to file an 8k on the monies they received. why you ask? because it was a major event shareholders should know about.
So we can conclude without question that nothing has happened at SFOR that will impact the financials in any material way (Like a large influx of sales, contracts, YUGE deals, etc.)as of yet by the lack of an 8k being filed.
Now the AAPL example we can see clearly doesn't apply, because AAPL is a profitable company that sells many products and Iphones. But, if AAPL was to have a "MAJOR" event shareholders should know about (something outside the NORMAL) then they to would be required to file an 8k.
Form 8-K is the “current report” companies must file with the SEC to announce major events that shareholders should know about.
There are no contracts with govt agencies or Hospitals, nor any other company. If there were contracts with businesses sfor would have to file an 8k on them, as they would be material and something shareholders should know about. Even with a NDA an 8k would be required on the income, don't believe me, then look up the MSFT settlement that sfor received, there was an NDA but Kay HAD to file an 8k on the money, because it was meaningful to shareholders.
With no 8k, THERE ARE NO MEANINGFUL (as in money for SFOR) CONTRACTS OR DEALS!!
Kay has a proven history of making up stories, 17+ years worth of documented lies. And you can't just make up a valuation that has no basis in reality, 50 million LOL.
Many mad investors who bought into the bullch*it are gonna be chasing after Mark Kay to kick his a**.
Fixed it for ya!
LOL, thats funny. I hope thats you!!!
Please let that be you
SafeVchat will not help secure Microsoft's exchange EMAIL servers.
E-mail is not video conferencing...
don't crawfish now, dig them past post up, how many times have I been correct?
I'm waiting........
I didn't misrepresent anything, I'm sorry you dont understand when an 8k would be required to be filed. I tried to spell it out for you, even provided you links to the SEC website.
If sfor inks a deal with a large company, for any meaningful amount of revenue (given sfor's current and past revenue, it wouldn't take much for it to be meaningful) there would be an 8k required to alert shareholders/potential shareholders of the "big deal" that will bring "revenue outside the norm" to sfor.
Without that, it's just like the past companies and past YUGE deals sfor has announced, IT MEANS/MEANT nothing for shareholders. it's just a pump.
It should concern you that they are following the same business practice of funneling money AWAY from sfor thru private channel partners.
Yup, a pump that meant nothing monetarily for sfor, about a product that still isn't usable after 3 launches :)
ah, so a deal with no money that didn't mean anything business wise for sfor outside the norm. A FLUFF PR or PUMP.....
You do realize your proving my point right?
Correct, as long as you understand that them being a customer means nothing to SFOR from a monetary standpoint, ie there is no "yuge" deal with that company for corporate licensing or that would have required an 8k.
so the tweet was nothing to be excited about, just another PUMP in this PUMP AND DUMP!!
Your original post insinuated they were a "big" company and the first of many or something similar.
SFOR funnels its deals to private channel partners, it's right there in their filings.
I'm sorry you don't understand. Really I am.
without that filing, it MEANS NOTHING SIGNIFICANT FOR SFOR....
It appears you didn't go to the SEC website link, and read about 8k's and when they are required. So ill help you out.
if there is not an 8k filed, you should not expect any revenue outside of normal revenue for SFOR (a loss).
a single user of safevchat would not require an 8k, but a deal with a big company well that would. You should learn when an 8k is required, that way you won't fall for promotional pumps that mean nothing.
when is an 8k required?
8k? anything meaningful outside norms (LIKE REVENUE) would require an 8k, no 8k just more lies or deals pushed thru private channel partners.
THERE CAN BE NO MEANINGFUL DEALS WITHOUT AN 8k
aww, did they ruin your pump and dump party?
So many questions. Not mad, not doing this out of spite. I trade sfor off and on, but only a fool would go long here. It is a pump and dump company it has PROVEN that over MANY MANY years. There is money to be made here, but not at these levels. buy this turd low, and sell on the pump. Just don't be part of the problem, don't post how awesome it is, or how it's gonna be bigger than zoom or msft (those statements literally have no basis in reality.)
What can I say it bothers me when people lie and scam people out of money, and Mark Kay has made a good living doing just that. He is a scumbag, and he has an army of scumbag posters that do his bidding here and at that other site. If the paid pumpers or shareholders with "agendas" would stop posting LIES and to da moon, I'd probably disappear. but every YEN has a YANG!
as far as sharing my trade history, umm no. Only with my accountant.
it was answered, it just seems your reading comprehension is as bad as your take on SFOR as a company.
Just like that last 4 produtcts and lies that were pushed, are you going to ignore safevchat questions and push the next product when SFOR is finished with the safevchat pump?
Where are the deals?
where is the 8k on all the money it's going to bring in?
Didn't see the filings on what your claiming, I just seen sfor filings on issuing more convertible debt, and "preferred shares". I guess the forgot to file that with the SEC?
Don' get mad at me for pointing out it isn't usable on the market yet, call Mark Kay and let him know that THEIR website says it's still in the BETA phase......
Issuing shares to raise capitol is not a change in institutional ownership, it's called toxic financing, and it's part of SFOR business strategy!
Your response to the FACT that the product that is being pushed has launched what 2 or 3 times now, and still isn't usable?
You consistently refuse to acknolwedge the facts on the ground have NOT changed in this round of pump and dump.
Saying "yuge things" or "zoom killer" doesn't mean chit.
Yuge things were promised on "ALL" of their past produts, and NOTHING relevant EVER came from ANY of them. But this one is different how? new mgmt? new strategy? Nope, same ole recipe and "channel partners". But were supposed to believe this time is different why exactly?
Safe V chat has had what 3 launches now? IS IT EVEN USEABLE YET?
Nevermind, just answered my own question, someone might want to tell SFOR and Mark Kay that their product launched on the 8th (again.) because their website will only let you sign up for their "beta" program.
LOL!!
Yes 100% sforce scam.
have you seen any announcements of deals and revenue?
any 8k?
oh, just general vague promises of "yuge things" to come.
Is safe v chat even a useable product yet?
LOL, it's 2016 again.....
why does everyone get upset when it gets pointed out the "emperor has no clothes on"?
GREAT SCOTT!, 2016 called, it want's its pump back...
I don't know if sfor mgmt has quit trying or realized they don't have to change their lies up at all. They just keep repeating the same lies over and over again with new product names, and they are sucessful in duping new investors with "gonna be YUGE" starry eyes every time.
Nevermind the facts that sfor is a turd of a company, with terrible products (most are open source), a history of toxic financing and screwing investors, channel partners that keep most of (if there is any) the money and deals away from sfor coffers into private hands.
I mean, people keep falling for the same chit,,
Mobile trust = FLOP, promised YUGE Things, YUGE, just don't ask about any of the money or deals now, were talking savevchat now ;)
Guarded ID= FLOP, again promised yuge things, just don't ask where the money and deals are its safevchat time
Protect ID - FLOP, again don't ask about money or deals, its safevchat time
Privacy lock.... again more of the same. safevchat time
and what happened to BLOCSAFE oh, I forgot, not supposed to ask, it's time to pump safevchat..
Is safe V chat even a functional actually useable product yet? I mean it's been "soft launched", then premature ejaculaunched, and now the "hard launch" is supposed to be here today, I wonder if the "hard launch" has turned flacid?
LOL......
read the fine print. They sell thru "channel parnters" NO MONEY EVER MAKES IT TO SFOR.... NOTHING MEANINGFUL....
The company is setup that way......
Oh, I hope you stick around......
LOL, guess he forgt he already launched safevchat
lol
Sfor HAS ran up, on yet another FLUFF PR on another Fluff product. these signals are unmistakable, as sfor mgmt does this over and over. You were right about one thing, a Meltdown is coming and it's way overdue for a crash.
Just another mark Kay sfor lie....
Really?
IPIX called, they were worried about you, seems you disappeared there after the DUMP also!!
You always show up to believe in the story at PUMP time, and disappear at dump time...
HMMMMMMMMMM,,,,
Im talking about the R/S that got it out of the trips. You know, the start of this round of pump and dump.
lets see, that was after the r/s when they were at .05. When they came up from trips, because of dilution right?
Longs gonna have to eat roaches to survive :)
I think it broke your CAPS LOCK and SPELL CHECK, better call support to check it out, if you can get anyone to answer!!
well my friends friend says your friend don't know what he is talking about.
look,
statistics don't lie... don't get mad at me for pointing out the obvious stuff that potential investors should look into. You know, like the "targeted Market", real deals, filings (or lack there of when yuge deals are claimed.
Global Finance Ranking of National Tech Strength
Ranking Country Composite Score
1 Norway 3.682965
2 Sweden 3.681769
3 Netherlands 3.677732
4 Denmark 3.666274
5 United States 3.65128
6 Singapore 3.618698
7 Finland 3.590665
8 United Arab Emirates 3.587424
9 South Korea 3.552165
10 Hong Kong 3.550809
11 Switzerland 3.550804
12 United Kingdom 3.493129
13 Belgium 3.486736
14 Canada 3.468602
15 Australia 3.400257
16 Luxembourg 3.39885
17 Taiwan 3.37134
18 Spain 3.339395
19 Germany 3.331451
20 Estonia 3.312652
21 Japan 3.277817
22 France 3.272701
23 New Zealand 3.239487
24 Ireland 3.235211
25 Austria 3.230004
26 Qatar 3.216313
27 Lithuania 3.202866
28 Czech Republic 3.184814
29 Israel 3.131437
30 Latvia 2.994696
31 Malaysia 2.987913
32 Portugal 2.966322
33 Slovenia 2.949676
34 Poland 2.937988
35 Hungary 2.930656
36 Kazakhstan 2.92409
37 Italy 2.888797
38 China 2.82051
39 Croatia 2.804712
40 Thailand 2.8023
41 Slovakia 2.757885
42 Saudi Arabia 2.756118
43 Greece 2.698966
44 Ukraine 2.68495
45 Jordan 2.684056
46 Russia 2.683851
47 Argentina 2.678766
48 Romania 2.665403
49 Chile 2.582911
50 Mexico 2.509091
51 Bulgaria 2.495615
52 Turkey 2.46682
53 Iran 2.334855
54 Philippines 2.317305
55 Brazil 2.308031
56 Vietnam 2.301261
57 Peru 2.296431
58 Morocco 2.276783
59 Colombia 2.246969
60 India 2.223931
61 South Africa 2.211977
62 Indonesia 2.079112
63 Venezuela 1.65962
64 Algeria 1.643397
65 Egypt 1.602698
66 Myanmar 1.600593
67 Pakistan 1.567116
the truth is the truth, south africa is literally one of the worst tech markets to be in...
wouldn't they just use facetime/video chat? why would villagers purchase a secure video conferencing software?
This is just getting ridiculous at this point. plain stupid, if you trying to say african villagers will be users of safe v chat.
i mean, WTF