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There has been a lot of changes on the court schedule. Can someone kindly post the latest scheduling ...Thank you in advance. The settlement by Apple today was very encouraging!!
Covers the whole lawsuit as a whole. Can not claim ignorance in a court of law,this case is over 6 years old.
In accounting and auditing there is a term called DISCLOSURE, of which failure to do so would be viewed as fraudulent, and criminal in nature such that the directors, the lawyers, etc that were involved with the buyout, may even face closure and jail terms. Bottom line everyone is aware about UOIP's case and they are buying the company "as is". COMM has made its projections, and probably will recoup its expenses from the buyout in 2 years....Arris sales are 11 billion a year if i remember well? The main point to take out of this deal as i see it is that every business needs clients to sell its product/service...there for, in my view part of the buyout money is to give to the 13/17 infringers to help in the settlement of the case and keep them as customers to sell their products to, since they already have an established customer base. Also part of that money will come from the general liability insurance coverage and any additional revenues eg rentals made to house holds ...on modems...will be settled by the 13/17 and their insurance
The final buyout price for Ariss is USD7.4 BLN.....part of the money will be used to pay off debt.
https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/press-releases-pmn/business-wire-news-releases-pmn/commscope-to-acquire-arris-approximately-7-4-billion-transaction-accelerates-commscope-vision-to-shape-communications-networks-of-the-future
IMHO that debt includes the UOIP issues....remember this case has been going on for over 6years. The new company owner would want, imho to cut future losses and have this settled asap. The former owners of Ariss would want to maximize on profits gained from the buyout....best way out... negotiate a settlement!. The new owners would want to keep the clientelle, that is the telecom companies. IMHO i believe the money to pay UOIP is now available, based on the SALES of the modems. The telecom companies would then be liable for revenues they received on eg rentals of the modems. Iam sure they know exactly what Billy wants and that was budgeted for in the buyout price....Big question is who will buy the patents....This technology is still needed for 5G wireless...PAPA
Thank you!
would be great to get 5.2B
I agree, our case is bigger and stronger than today's win by Cisco....see link.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/arista-to-pay-cisco-400-million-in-patent-settlement/
Right. ..just to add they are still receiving, benefiting and enjoying the income received during that time
I believe it depends on which costs we are referring to. The direct costs ..exactly linked to the litigation only yes...but the cumulative infringement costs may spell something else...jmho. Any ways its a free country...they do what they want to do.
Agree with most of your points...however the case has been going on for years and everything is working against the 13 and the manufacturers.....After all these loses sturboness (sorry spellings)only leads to more expenses...they still have shareholders to answer to. The markman hearings and the discovery process are very strong processes
Even if cisco sold in 2016, they benefited from the initial sales, and from the sale of that department to that European company?? if i still remember well...those transactions can still haunt them. The European company can even turn around and sue cisco for off loading a hot potato on them.. big mess all over. As it is that European company is infringing...i guess...all because of cisco..jmho
I believe Carter did his DD before sueing...being that he understood the food chain...that is he knew who makes the most money out of this...cable companies. So he sued those and in turn they would recover their costs ..if they so wished from the manufacterers. By then he would be gone!! Also according to American law the manufacters can still be sued by Carter...Anyone who manufacters, sells or distributes is liable...
And the way i see it, the insurance companies may play a huge role in pushing for a settlement, to cut/reduce risk.... this may settle any day....jmho. This lawsuit has a lot of players in it...including Canadian companies.
I was thinking the insurance, Arris and Cisco my decide to split the bill...in agreed portion/percentages.
Most likely they have insurance in billions to cover this whole thing.
There were go my man!! Zomby is a deep thinker and has done a lot here and much appreciated...just thought i could ask a bit of questions. I am a forensic accountant...Auditor by profession. so i ask questions.
True. But what i feel is that validity of a patent goes concurrently with infringement. If the patent is valid, and the supposed infringement follows the technicality and design of the patent and functions as the patent dictates there is... proven infringement. Remember privacy laws will protect anyone if they felt they did not need to answer to anything. The fact that the lawsuit has advanced this far says otherwise.
Zomby i see the fine line you are talking about. However the discovery process right now is about how UOIP came to the infringement dollar amount?...how did they evaluate the dollar amount??...thats the debate on the discovery process... How do we jump from proving infringement to accessing infringement value? r u a lawyer....u can walk that fine line!!! impressive.
Finally Mama...we r in canaan. Remember those early days.lol
Great analysis Gold...chart does not work well AT the OTC!
I dont understand Spanish ...but surely i understand GASOLINA. Is this song close enough to what we are seeing on here??
Something of interest...ref patents.
https://www.law360.com/ip/articles/1013951?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=section
How long does it take from subpoena to testimony, anyone has an idea please? ...just thinking about Cisco and Arris last subpoenas/testimonies?....are they completed yet?
Cisco is carrying a very big money bag!
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/23/goldman-predicts-significant-returns-at-cisco-adds-to-top-stock-list.html
Pacer entry.....note Arris group issues most likely will be done with here.
Friday, March 23, 2018
226 notice Notice - Other Fri 2:36 PM
NOTICE of Third Party Subpoenas (Cisco Systems, Inc. and Arris Group, Inc.) by Atlantic Broadband Group, LLC, Bright House Networks, LLC, CSC Holdings, LLC, Cable One, Inc., Cablevision Systems Corporation, Cequel Communications Holdings I, LLC, Cequel Communications, LLC, Charter Communications, Inc., Comcast Cable Communications, LLC, Comcast Corporation, Cox Communications, Inc., Mediacom Communications Corporation, RCN Telecom Services, LLC, Time Warner Cable Enterprises LLC, Time Warner Cable Inc., WaveDivision Holdings, LLC, WideOpen West Finance, LLC (Ying, Jennifer)
and also 13 companies ??? who would they all sell to??? uoip is winning imho
yes they did, and I believe its a good sign, for settlement negotiations...lots of examples I have come across like that, eg strikeforce vs Microsoft etc. I added today.
Great point ...but again its both Billy and Cisco, Cisco is under pressure big time as well. Right now its customers, the 10 infringers are spending large sums of money and time on those court cases, and they will turn against Cisco sooner or later, and sue for their legal expenses etc... settlement may come sooner...watch for "cases terminated on pacer" could be a good sign that settlement has been agreed on.
Thus killing innovation right there!! Probably the judge gave it to cisco ...as a "hang your self judgement!!" knowing there is no easy way out. in the judgement they ignored a fact that the tech performed and cisco could not explain why ...but instead chose the expert testimony
I agree with you here. Even if it took someone with a basic degree to create the invention.....not everybody with that basic degree took the initiave to create the invention! The fact that the inventor took that initiave to utilize available technology and come up with a unique product should not be viewed as punishment to deny them the invention/patent
Excellent points ...Cisco has to deal with this fire asap before it consumes them!!....that is lawsiuts from the other companies!
A deal would be great and may come unexpectedly! This ruling may just be giving Cisco and the other companies some leverage/discount on the dollar amount they could have paid
Hopefully Arris will be denied that appeal!!
Did you read the final decision by any chance? Termination...wow Ram do u have an account there please? Thanks in advance
UOIP make them pay!!!!!..... and pay!!!
Here is Kays interview.
Not yet..... while we await SFOR.. USEI maybe to calm down everyone!!
Ram my friend ..i still hold SFOR....but hey dog chasing its on tail ...dizziness or business?? ...pot party today HMPQ!!!
i still believe the fundamentals are good here....It may take some time for ATT to start manufacturing those machines and selling them.....with the projected revenue here management may be in time........at that time.....to go for the newer high tech machines, hopefully.