GlobeTel Wireless division has been awarded a contract to install wireless networks in three German cities.



Friday , August 05, 2005 00:47 ET

(financialwire.net via COMTEX) --August 5, 2005 (FinancialWire) GlobeTel Communications Corp.'s (AMEX: GTE) GlobeTel Wireless division has been awarded a contract to install wireless networks in three German cities.

The contract will provide high-speed wireless networks for internet connectivity starting with the town of Kaiserslautern, and continuing with nearby communities. Kaiserslautern is a city of 100,000 people, located 100 miles South West of Frankfurt. Construction of the project is to begin this month. GlobeTel Wireless, which along with its parent company competes with Terremark Worldwide (AMEX: TWW) and Qwest Communications International Inc. (NYSE: Q), will install these first wireless networks in Germany as part of the roll out plan to deploy wireless communication networks to non-DSL communities, in identified geographic markets.

"We have had tremendous confidence in the radio technology that we developed for our Stratellites," said Leigh Coleman, co-president of GlobeTel Wireless. "This technology allows us to deliver a superior wireless product and thus has created an entirely new business unit for us. We are inundated with opportunities for this technology and see this first contract as just the tip of the iceberg for this new business unit."

Several more networks are expected to be installed over the coming months as part of the plan to roll out networks to approximately 140 non DSL cities in Germany. Expansion plans call for development in other countries in Europe, Africa, Russia and other geographic markets.



http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/news.htm?eid=3.1.26c8a868c0540b391fe31b5be89ad1341f5af92936....



(I see this was similar to news a few days ago - maybe a correction?)

Kramer has bad-mouthed other stocks I have owned before - with the expected negative results.
He is usually loud, not fully informed and generally obnoxious IMO.

I don't know why anyone would want to get Kramer involved with GTE - he is likely to just continue trash-talking GTE.

He will never correct himself or give you any good PR no matter what you email him. - IMO

Let sleeping dogs lie

I wonder if he still owns/manages a hedge-fund?

PS. Caradoc - not complaining about you - just following the Kramer thread.

Question aboud R/S & AMEX -

Won't these 2 events cause all shorted shares (especially the "naked" ones) be accounted for?
A short squeeze of sorts?

I am excited about AMEX and the floating Sanswire One.

TIA

Rocky - Thanks, Yes I guess the Discovery filming could have been done before the unveiling.

It just seemed unlikely that they would want to waste that much tedlar. I believe it can only be heat shrunk once; did anyone attending see any huge piles of tedlar in the corner - LOL

My only pet peave is the constant lack of tying the Sanswire project to Globetel & thus GTEL stock.

I'm sure any investor doing DD will make the connection.

LuckOne

Discovery Chan. Sanswire Question.

First, the video is pretty amazing - great exposure.

http://www.exn.ca/video/?video=exn20050425-blimp.asx

Now I noticed that in the video the Sanswire One has quite a bit more tedlar skin applied than there was in photos a week ago at the "unveiling"

I assume others can see this difference as well.

Does this mean that they are not going to disassemble the ship and tranport it to Edwards/Palmdale?

I can't believe they would waste the covering only to tear it down later.

Or, is it possible they will test flight the ship where they are after all?

Any ideas, theories or info?

LuckyOne (proud investor in GTEL)

agentjon - Have to agree with you there. - LOL

Any poster that claims they have secrets and then says: "I am not at liberty to cite my sources" because of Non-disclosure agreement has some serious cedibility issues.

Anybody can make an unsubsantiated claim like that - pretty much a Zero value statement, if we are seeking facts and information about GTEL.

The best posts, either pro or con the stock, are ones that at least have links to back up the info presented.

agenjon, like you I was skeptical, weeks ago wondered if GTEL even had an airship. I was not at the viewing but am enthusiastic about the pictures and general reports from those that attended.

LuckyOne

P.S. (I am not under any NDA, nor do I have any insider info, and I am not a member of a secret fraternity) - LOL

newguy - You asked the same Q. 4 times and they are still posted messages 10097, 10122, 10182, 10253.

God knows how many others there were that Rocky had to delete.

It has been answered several times. By several people. Several ways.

Over 300 people attended the unveiling of Sanswire One held on April 12, 2005, including members of the media, personnel from the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. and international commercial interests, as well as investors and shareholders. Among media personnel, there were representatives from The Associated Press, Reuters, and television crews from the major networks and cable news channels.

http://www.globetel.net/press/20050414.html

Confucious say: "Man who has no ears can not hear."

It is not my problem you don't like the answer. Next time attend the event - or call the company.

jimcognito - Thanks! So the GTEL Sanswire airship is the standard that defines what is a Stratellite.

Cool

a moment in history I suppose

LuckyOne

bors - I thought so - LOL

A quick click here and any armchair engineer can be enlightened

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/home/index.html

BTW the Helios is one amazing little craft!

NASA/Dryden has dozens of still pics & even movies

http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/Helios/index.html

http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/Helios/index.html

This one has fuel cells

The first version of this system combines gaseous hydrogen from two pressurized tanks mounted on Helios' outboard wing sections with compressed oxygen from the atmosphere via a series of proton-exchange membrane fuel cell "stacks" mounted in the central landing gear pod. The system produces more than 15 kW of direct-current electricity to power Helios' motors and operating systems, with the only by-product being water vapor and heat. The system will increase the Helios Prototype's flight weight by about 800 lb to about 2,400 lb

"A production version of the Helios with the regenerative fuel cell system is of interest to NASA for environmental science, the military and AeroVironment for various roles, primarily as a stratospheric telecommunications relay platform. With other system reliability improvements, production versions of the Helios are expected to fly missions lasting months at a time, becoming true "atmospheric satellites."





More info here
http://www1.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/Helios/HTML/ED03-0152-1.html

Remember Proton fuel cells and Proton's contract w/ Nasa & DOD.

Look what they want to use Helios for: "primarily as a stratospheric telecommunications relay platform"

Sanswire One may be the solution and better than the Helios although using some similar technology

Ahh - to see a flying Sanswire One in the photo gallery at Nasa/Dryden complete with a big NASA logo.



LuckyOne

NASA Dryden - So who the heck said NASA/Dryden had no experince/competency at HAA. Solar Power or Remote Control

Heck they set a record in 2001 18 miles up w/ solar power!

NASA's solar-powered aircraft Helios sets a new world altitude record for non-rocket-powered craft: 96,863 feet (more than 18 miles up).




The Helios prototype flying wing is shown near the Hawaiian Islands during its first test flight on solar power.
(Credit: NASA, Dryden Flight Research Center Photo Collection)


oh wait here is another: 2002

NASA conducts two successful tests of a solar-powered, remote-controlled aircraft called Pathfinder Plus. In July, researchers demonstrate the aircraft's use as a high-altitude platform for telecommunications technologies. In September, it's tested for use as an aerial imaging system for coffee growers



The Pathfinder Plus—a lightweight, solar-powered, remotely piloted flying wing aircraft—demonstrates how solar technology can be used for long-duration, high-altitude flight. The aircraft could stay airborne for weeks or months on scientific sampling and imaging missions. Solar arrays cover most of the upper wing surface to provide power for electric motors, avionics, communications, and other electronic systems. A backup battery system can provide power for 2 to 5 hours and allow brief flights after dark. (Credit: NASA, Dryden Flight Research Center Photo Collection)

Notice the NASA logo on both.

This is from 2001 & 2002.

Experince from these will be applied to Sanswire One

LuckyOne

mitchell66 - Good luck on your investing. The more you read the more you know, and there is always something to learn - for all of us. And, Yes the GTEL board (thanks Rocky) is one of the finest examples of a library of information gathered about a stock.

Investing is harder when you have to depend solely on reading company filings (10K, 10Q ect). GTEL makes for an interesting story and at least some intersting and hopefully profitable investing.

Like everything & every stock there is risk; GTEL might not be the golden goose - but it is no turkey either - LOL

GTEL has potential.

Good Luck

LuckyOne

InTheGreen. Sanswire One was what was in the hanger. I do believe there will be a Sanswire 2 (and more). There has been much progress made - but no hints about any flying mystery ships - LOL

Give it time. GTEL appears to have a dedicated, knowledgeable team to see this thru and we will see a Sanswire airship flying soon enough.

The commercial applications are exciting but there are more than enough hints that indicate military applications may be first and foremost for the Strats.

Pretty much any major advance in technology has had a "civilian use" and a "military use". (Computers, robotics, satellites, airplanes) Why should a revolutionary product like the Sanswire airship be any different.

LuckyOne

Over 300 people attended the unveiling of Sanswire One held on April 12, 2005, including members of the media, personnel from the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. and international commercial interests, as well as investors and shareholders. Among media personnel, there were representatives from The Associated Press, Reuters, and television crews from the major networks and cable news channels.

Keep in mind all 300 people were probable not all standing in the same spot - LOL

Also, there may well have been people that came to the hanger prior to the 2pm "main event" or afterwards.

I want to express my Thanks to all those that attended the showing and have taken the time to report their experince & show their photos.

Before your pics - all I had was the computer drawing & my imagination as to what Sanswire one would look like. Sure its not finished - but it is REAL. Consider, that if the airship were some "penny stock hoax" there would never have been any unveiling - just a series of delays and secrecy.

Gadzooks! We went from this:



To This:



The prototype is now 2wice the size of what the original plan was, plus it is using a newer covering & more composite framing.

Yesterday's price was caused by confusion, stop losses kicking in, and the "buy rumor sell news mentality".

In reality the company looks better than it did a few days ago. The ship looks awesome.

LuckyOne

Cool enough - be sure to hurry back w/pics of your progress on your airship building project - LOL


I totally concede that:
If you expected a flying ship you have ever right to be disappointed.

If you bought all your shares at the high and expected to see a flying ship you have every right to be pizzed.

Posting/Saying that it is just pieces of metal slap dabbed together that you could do in a few days - well - comments like that makes you sound a bit foolish (I sure you didn't mean it to sound that way - your obviously just not happy)

Hey, I am not happy over the share price either or the apparent let down.

BTW if brett is a female name my apologies for "Dude".

brett - Your sure you can build one of these. - LOL









Don't forget this:




As your hot air is not enough


http://www.netsourcecomputers.com/gtelpics/


BTW if it makes you feel any better I don't day trade - I invest.

Seriously dude chill out - buy, sell, hold or just get otta the way

Yardbird - Well Put!

I am willing to listen to Huff's story and give him the benefeit of the doubt. And I do expect something in the way of PR or letter to shareholders to give us a proper update.

LuckyOne

D.Dog - My take is that Huff was placed in a no win situation. He issued a statement about the public showing being a teathered funtional ship and then he ran into some huge delays & problems.

If, in a PR, he recants that statement & delays viewing by another month I expect much of what you see now pricewise would still happen. Or, he keeps to the viewing schedule and shows you what is done so far. A no win and not a perfect soloution - I expect he picked the lesser of the 2 evils.

Most that went were very impressed.

A company has no obligation to update us with a day by day play by play of every event; yet that has to be balanced with the clamoring masses that demand to be kept informed.

Let me put it another way - before the public viewing and all the pics & video - many dire naysayers were convinced that there was no ship at all. What have we seen up to yesterday? A computer drawing.

High expectations - some of which Huff is to blame - got a little deflated yesterday. There will be many, many more brand new investors taking a look at this for the first time - will be impressed - and will buy in.

LuckyOne

Palmdale, Edwards AFB, & AF Plant 42

Air Force Plant 42 is located at Palmdale, California. It is just a few miles south of Edwards AFB.
The Facility has now become synonymous with advanced and black aviation programs. It became most famous when Lockheed Martin relocated their aviation manufacturing plant nicknamed 'Skunkworks' from Burbank to here after the 'Have Blue' program had moved out. It has now become 'the' place for Advanced Black Programs development and construction.
It became known as Air Force Plant 42 in 1953 officially and was taken over by the Air Force in 1954.

Situated on site are three main aviation contractors/companies and these are:
Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
Boeing
Plus Rockwell (Boeing North American) used to be located here.

The most famous aircraft to come out of Plant 42 is the Northrop B-2A Spirit when it was first rolled out in the mid-1990's.
Since then various programs have undergone construction here, some extremely secretly and some not.
Programs that have not been secret are the current Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Programs and these are being constructed at Boeings Plant and Lockheeds Plant and apparently collectively constructed at Northrop's Site-4 where the then, very classified B-2A was constructed.
It is at nighttime when secret aircraft may fly out of here, either taking a very short trip to Edwards AFB North Base or to Groom Lake and Tonopah. However a lot of secret programs are actually flown inside of a C-5B/C Galaxy to conceal them further while transitioning from Plant 42 to the test sites. Some aircraft when being transported are not even ready to fly.
And so transporting in a C-5C or C-17A is essential.
On a day to day basis, driving past this huge joint facility you may be able to see F-117 Nighthawks, B-2A Spirits and various other aircraft associated with the contractors on site such as Orions, Stratotankers and the like.

Plant 42 has an area of approximately Nine ²miles which is about 5,840 acres. Before the plant was here, only Lockheed existed with a small site. Since then it was to become Palmdale International Airport but that was canceled and it was then that major aviation contractors moved in.
Since the Aviation industry moved here however, Palmdale airport has arisen again and it is now a civil airport (Palmdale Regional) as well as construction facilities. Cargo and Passenger transport has got busier by the year here.

There are three main facilities within Plant 42 now, these are: Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Boeing / Rockwell. Rockwell were based here back in the 70s and 80s and actually built 100 x B-1B Strategic Bombers here as well as constructing all of the NASA Space Shuttles.
The whole facility in one is the main construction, modification and test center for the United States Advanced Aviation programs although many modifications go on here on less exotic aircraft such as the Orions, passenger aircraft and other fast jets.
Plant 42 is owned by Detachment 1, Aeronautical Systems Center, based at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio. It is assigned to various companies such as described above.
Sites 1 - 8 are owned specifically by the Air Force but are contracted out.
Site 9 is owned by Boeing North American and incorporates the former Rockwell's Area.
Plant 10 by Lockheed Martin (Skunkworks)
However Site 9 was owned by Rockwell and Boeing took over when Rockwell finished the B1 construction.
Site 9 was up for sale recently by Boeing Reality Corp and offers a vast amount of Hanger space of which a company called SR Technologies bought it. This company overhauls Transport aircraft and has a major deal with FedEx there at the moment.
One company that was interested was British Aerospace Systems' "Marconi Flight Systems" company who at the moment reside at Mojave Airport doing re-fits of the KC-135R and other aviation/space related programs. It is a major player in the modification and rebuild of aircraft for the three major Forces as well as British forces.
Within the Air Force Detachment 1 owned Sites 1 - 8, Boeing reside in Site 1 and Lockheed Reside in Sites 2 and 7, as well as the large Skunkworks which is Plant 10. Northrop reside is Site 4 and others.

Attraction to the area for the aviation companies was the main runways and ramp/taxi space. The main runway 07/25 is 12,000ft in length and is the strongest runway in the world, built to withstand an 8.3 Earthquake. (Plant 42 is near the San Andreas Fault). It also has some of the best fire fighting equipment in the United States and the fire crews are some of the best trained in the country.

When Rockwell were building the B1B Bomber and also building the Space Shuttles, personnel at Plant 42 rose to above 12,000 people. Since then, dwindling funds and contracts and companies going bankrupt has forced the loss of jobs and the personnel figure for today stands at approximately 9,000 people. Most of which work at Lockheed and Northrop.


http://www.dreamlandresort.com/black_projects/plant42.htm

It makes sense that there is some available space for the Sanswire construction (assuming it actually IS at AF Plant 42)

Palmdale AF plant 42 is so close and so associated with Edwards AFB that the lines between the 2 may be blurred - hence some confusion about Edwards or Palmdale.

LuckyOne

PS - has the Sanswire turned into a "special project" for the government? All the talk of Sanswire One having a AF logo & Airforce insistance that there be a "failsafe destruct mech" on board? Not to mention the quote: "When we prove what we can do the military will use this immediately," Coleman said.

How can the Airfoce insist on what goes on the Sanswire one unless they are directly involved in developing the ship?

Lotta questions - but I'm optimistic

Palmdale info:

Air Force Plant 42
Palmdale, CA
34°38'N 118°04'W
Mojave Desert Facilities


With 9,000 employees, Air Force Plant 42 is the Antelope Valley's second-largest employer, after Edwards Air Force Base. Plant 42 has 3.2 million square feet of industrial space and has a replacement value of $1.1 billion. Some of the plant's work involves production of spare parts for military aircraft, with other projects including maintenance and modification of aircraft such as the B-2 bomber and F-117 stealth fighter, and production of the Global Hawk and other unmanned craft.

Air Force Plant 42 is at Palmdale, CA, north of Pasadena in Los Angeles County. It is operated by Lockheed, Rockwell International, Northrop, and Nero. AFP 42 is located in the northeastern portion of Los Angeles County, California, within the Antelope Valley of the Mojave Desert, approximately 80 miles north of Los Angeles. It has over 6,600 acres (the government owns 85%) and includes approximately 4.2 million square feet of floor space (the government owns 45%). The site includes multiple high bay buildings and airfield access with flyaway capability. The facility also has one of the heaviest load-bearing runways in the world.


Rockwell's Palmdale assembly facility is where all the individual parts, pieces and systems of the Space Shuttle came together and were assembled and tested. Upon completion, the spacecraft was turned over to NASA for transport overland from Palmdale to Edwards Air Force Base, California. NASA's Dryden Flight Research Facility at Edwards Air Force Base is the site of the mate-demate facility for mating or demating the spacecraft and the shuttle carrier aircraft.



ect......

Much more including maps at link below


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/afp-42.htm


Seems like Palmdale is where a few big names reside/build

Yes I have seen that ABC link - the local ABC L.A. news had a camera crew and got 5 mins of video and an interview w/ Huff.

People claim to have seen video on local cable, ect.

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=GTEL&read=348810

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=GTEL&read=348686

ABC News - According to viewers (posting on RB) in L.A. ABC chan 7 KABC has a broadcast of the Sanswire viewing event. Was covered by Leslie Sykes.

I can't get California Cable here in FL but perhaps the webcast will have it.

Link to local news site

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/bios/bio_LeslieSykes.html

Pagan - Much Better picture for sure!

There is better sense of the scale with those pics & they show more detail.

Quite an impressive craft & some nifty engineering. I would have liked to have seen a bit more progress on the assembly.

BUT (if I understand correctly) if they are not going to fly it to Edwards and instead "truck it there in pieces" perhaps they are best finishing all assembly at Edwards.

2nd point is that since the plan is to eventually ship modular kits to be assembled on site(Australia, Peru, ect) - then some thought has to go into assemble and dissamble tecniques.

Like the military quote: (speculation on my part - but fleet & military sound VERY promising)

Associated Press
...

"GlobeTel foresees a fleet of helium-filled "stratellites," each able to stay aloft for months at a time and automatically held on station by electric motors powered by batteries charged by solar cells.

They would relay communications services including voice, broadband, high-definition TV, interactive high-definition TV and satellite radio at a cost far lower than traditional satellites in orbit, the company contends, and could also have military and government uses for surveillance and remote sensing.

"When we prove what we can do the military will use this immediately," Coleman said.

By positioning "stratellites" at an altitude more than a dozen miles high, the developers hope to minimize the effects of winds. There are still winds at 65,000 feet but the lower density of the atmosphere, combined with the shape of the "stratellite," should allow the motors to hold it in position, the developers believe."



http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/computing/20050411-1514-ca-stratellite.html


Bold & Underline mine

LuckyOne

THANKS poster Falon!

Solar cells may only be a part of the equation. Don't forget the regenerative fuel cell technology that Proton brings to the table. Ford Motors already has fuel cell prototype cars running around.

Proton Energy has contracts with Nasa and the Military too

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5828539

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5793957

In about 5mins on Google or in using the fine DD links above it is obvious that the military is keenly interested in airship technology.

Specific interest of the Military in the Sanswire/GTEL ships may well translate into some type of military contract. Granted this is speculation - but IF Uncle Sam wants a Strat or two (or more) you would likely see a fast-track approach and a "work- out-the-bugs-as-you-go approach.

Much depends on the initail showing and tests.

Just think of the Patriot Missile system. The NEED for the system pre-empted any consideration that it still required perfecting & more testing.
Or The Air Force Osprey tilt rotor aircraft. Or the Preditor unmanned Drone.
All driven by the need to use this technology ASAP.

My simple take is: military NEED + a viable Strat Airship = Contracts & $$.

Part of good investing is finding a stock with a great potential and a great story - IMO - GTEL has both.

LuckyOne

PhillipTori - poster Freze7 asked the question:"How air worthy is the craft in the jet stream?"

I was merely providing him/her an answer w/ the link.

I have never-ever believed the jet stream to be an issue and my research bears out that point.

So - LOL - we are in agreement BION

"How air worthy is the craft in the jet stream"


Will jet stream be a problem?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5810703

(from DD links above)


I expect solar panels & airship to look a little like this

FAA - Aircraft Certification Products and Services
Special Airworthiness Certificates
Experimental Category.

What is a special airworthiness certificate in the experimental category?

A special airworthiness certificate in the experimental category is an FAA form issued to operate an aircraft that does not have a type certificate or does not conform to its type certificate and is in a condition for safe operation.

Special airworthiness certificates may be issued in the experimental category for the following purposes:


Research and development: to conduct aircraft operations as a matter of research or to determine if an idea warrants further development. Typical uses for this certificate include new equipment installations, operating techniques, or new uses for aircraft.

Showing compliance with regulations: to show compliance to the airworthiness regulations when an applicant has revised the type certificate design data or has applied for a supplemental type certificate or field approval.

Crew training: for training the applicant’s flight crews in experimental aircraft for subsequent operation of aircraft being flight tested in type certificate programs or for production flight testing.

Exhibition: to exhibit an aircraft’s flight capabilities, performance, or unusual characteristics for air shows, motion pictures, television, and similar productions, and for the maintenance of exhibition flight proficiency.

Market surveys: to conduct market surveys, sales demonstrations, and customer crew training for U.S. manufacturers of aircraft or engines.

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FAA approval for such a unique aircraft like the Sanswire One may invoke a "Special Airworthiness Certificates
Experimental Category". Consider also the catch 22 argument of Can't fly the Sanswire w/o approval - can't get approval until you fly it. This whole experimental catagory should allow Sanswire One the breathing room to at least see some air time under the testing guidlines.

I suspect the approval process to be done in stages as well.

FWIW about FAA (repost)

Sanswire One is registered with the FAA

FAA Sanswire search directions:

Go to FAA search site:

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

Click "document index"

under "Party Name"

enter: sanswire

Register 2/01/2005

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Sorry - apparently no direct link

LuckyOne


PS the FAA does allow aircraft to be under a catagory called experimental. The registry applications make for pretty dry reading. Also a N-Number can be reserved in advance for a mere $10 filing fee and good for 1 year.


Special Registration (N-Number) Request

Special N-Number requests must be submitted in writing, or on this web site. Written Requests should include at least five (5) N-Numbers of choice listed in order of preference. The request should also include a name, mailing address, phone number, signature, and, if appropriate, title of the requester. Requests for special N-Numbers along with a check or money order made payable to the United States Treasury in the amount of $10 (U.S. Funds) should be submitted to the Aircraft Registration Branch.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraft.asp#SpecialN-Number

AN ASSESSMENT OF HIGH ALTITUDE AIRSHIP FOR DEFENCE AND CIVIL APPLICATIONS:

ABSTRACT
Stratospheric airships are unmanned, autonomous airships to fly at an altitude of approximately 70,000 ft. (21 KM) Most of the design concepts envision solar powered airships that use solar cells to gather sunlight during the day and then with electrolyzers and fuel cells they store energy to operate through the night.

An airship encompasses a complex, interactive thermal system and the propulsion is provided by a set of electric motors with large propellers. Based on solar cell - fuel cell power generation and distribution, they can provide over 65 KW to the payloads (Radars, optical telescopes, communication & experimental gear etc). These airships can carry payloads in excess of 5000 Kg and be on station for periods in excess of over one year without refueling. They are built in sizes over 1000 ft. long, 300 ft. wide and height could equal a 20 storied building.

The stratospheric airship can carry mixed optical and radar sensors as well as robust communications packages; and they can be instantly deployed or moved with simple, secure Telecommands. Since they are fairly free of the high hazards of medium altitude winds and storms as well as being less susceptible to attacks from the ground, these stratospheric airship are much more cost effective than tethered aerostats. An important issue for the military is of defense against ballistic and cruise missiles, as well as penetrating aircraft. An additional complementary mission to include very robust mobile platform to facilitate navigation and communication can also be realized through airships. The payload flexibility of stratospheric airships has also been validated by examining different airship antenna and sensor configurations- some of which could have RF apertures exceeding many dozens of meters. Similarly, stratospheric airships can carry large, multi-spectral optical cameras- so large that most aircraft could not accommodate these large optics.

The first of these is being built as advanced concept technology vehicle and is likely to be deployed in 2005-2006. No other platform is likely to provide this dual use potential advantage at competitive cost.

Profile of the Speaker

Gen. Abrahamson was formerly one of the DoD's most broadly experienced and successful military program managers. He won a series of military and association awards for his management of the Maverick missile program, the F-16, the Space Shuttle Program for NASA and for his management of President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO). He is a graduate of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (BS in Aeronautical Engineering) and obtained his Master of Science degree at the University of Oklahoma in Aerospace Engineering.



Lt. Gen JAMES A ABRAHAMSON (Retd.)
Chairman and CEO,
Startcom International, LLC, USA,
20112 Marble Quarry Road,
Keedysville Maryland 21756
USA.


http://www.aeroindiaseminar.com/James.htm

________

For Sanswire One

Iowa Thin Film for Solar Power (they are involved w/ Lockheed's Airship)
Proton Industries is a Fuel Cell source.

It appears what Lt. Gen JAMES A ABRAHAMSON is describing is what GTEL/Sanswire is building.

There are a dozen or so airship projects in various stages involving solar power or solar/fuel cell hybrid - all to operate in stationary high altitude positions.

Clearly Sanswire has compitition - but thats OK.

Testing image post

OT: I hope Rocky takes out the garbage soon from the weekend assault of Pretend Altruistic Engineers (whatta laugh)
posters with too many "sssss" and a host of assorted gadflys with repetitive BS.

It is called creating

Fear, Uncertanty, Doubt or F.U.D.

What is the cure for F.U.D.?

Information

Which is the main (although occasionally diluted) purpose for this board.

Rocky, with the help of contributors, has provided a wealth of information with proper reference links.

I will take documented information over armchair engineers and purveyors of F.U.D. any day .

Thanks Rocky.

P.S. Bashers don't bother responding as I won't even give you the time of day.

Okay

Airship sources sought by DoD
The US Department of Defense (DoD) is interested in receiving market information supporting the design and production of a Lighter than Air stratospheric vehicle. The objective of this vehicle will be to demonstrate the engineering feasibility and potential military utility of an unmanned, un-tethered, gas filled, solar powered airship that can fly at 63,000 ft in the summer of 2006.

The prototype airship developed under this effort will be capable of continuous and controlled flight for a minimum of seven days on station while carrying 500 pounds of payloads with 3kW of power to the payload. This vehicle is intended as a developmental step toward an objective vehicle that can self deploy from the continental United States to worldwide locations. The purpose of the RFI released recently is to obtain industry concepts and market information for the vehicle.

http://www.uavworld.com/uavletter.htm

Now this is from a Sept. 04 Newsletter but the airship description sounds very much what GTEL/Sanswire is building.

And consider who attended the recent summit
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"In attendance for the military were senior officials from: SPAWAR, NASA, Air Force Space Command, Air Force research Lab, NavAirSyscom (Navy), and CECOM US Army."

http://www.sanswire.com/press/20050223.html

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Call it a hunch but I bet the military is keeping an eye on the Stratellite progress & tests.

LuckyOne

ShakeyGuy - I have seen that link before - it is for the Name/Trademark registration is it not?

Which has nothing to do with the Sanswire One FAA registration.

Unless I am missing a connection which will require your explanation.

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I have poured thru more FAA info and the Sanswire One has a MFilm number of 02076.

I have NO idea what that means as I am not an aviation/FAA expert (Nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn last night -grin-)

All I can say is that the FAA site

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

Sanswire One is listed on 02/01/2005 under FAA registration.

Which I guess is better than finding nothing at all listed.

LuckyOne

Shakey - the FAA search I used is by Party Name or N-Number.

I do not know the N- number but that does not mean none has been assinged.

I take it to mean at the very least FAA has Sanswire One registered

LuckyOne

PS - looking at microfiche now

FAA Sanswire search directions:

Go to FAA search site:

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

Click "document index"

under "Party Name"

enter: sanswire

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Sorry - apparently no direct link

LuckyOne

FAA Results
Looks Like we are registered Sanswire 1


FAA Registry
Document Index Inquiry Results

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Party Entered : SANSWIRE
Number of Records: 1 (Page 1 of 1)
Type Collateral Collateral Party Document Receipt Date
Unknown SANSWIRE SANSWIRE ONE 001 SANSWIRE NETWORKS LLC 02/01/2005

http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm


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Why is FAA important?

"In the air space of Edwards we are out of the FAA's jurisdiction and would work in conjunction with NASA and the Air Force authorities to launch the airship. The timeline would look like this: a public viewing of the airship on the 11th and 12th of April, the airship would then be transported to Edwards after clearance from the FAA with a pilot on board in the following week. Once at Edwards, we would then work with the Air Force to determine a window for launch that would most likely be in the last two weeks of April."

http://www.globetel.net/about/letter.html